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Freakazoid_ posted:does not compute You know,I think it would be neat if they did the EverQuest 1 Shadows of Luclin Bazaar-style player market. Have a dedicated zone filled with rows and rows of stalls that you you can drop a NPC in, give him the stuff you want to sell, then players can browse over to them and see what they have. It's less efficient than the WoW style auction house, but I think the novelty is kind of quaint.
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DAoC kind of had that with player housing, but they made auction house npcs anyway. The way they did it was you could buy through the NPC but it would cost like 15% extra gold or you could go to the lot the item was listed on to buy it for the actual price. Going to the lot was a pain in the arse unless you were a speed class though.
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Budgie posted:DAoC kind of had that with player housing, but they made auction house npcs anyway. The way they did it was you could buy through the NPC but it would cost like 15% extra gold or you could go to the lot the item was listed on to buy it for the actual price. Going to the lot was a pain in the arse unless you were a speed class though. They mentioned that if there weren't enough crafters, or enough weapon/armor available of a specific type, that there would be NPC merchant guilds available to the realms. The also said they hope that didn't happen, but I guess we'll see.
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Dec 23, 2015 16:26
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Budgie posted:DAoC kind of had that with player housing, but they made auction house npcs anyway. The way they did it was you could buy through the NPC but it would cost like 15% extra gold or you could go to the lot the item was listed on to buy it for the actual price. Going to the lot was a pain in the arse unless you were a speed class though. I'm sure they could strike a similar balance. This actually wouldn't be so bad, because it doesn't too badly marginalize people setting up their own shops, and in SWG, I actually enjoyed flying around on a speeder looking for shops that had gear I wanted at the best prices. There was something cool about talking to a guy, ordering a set of Composite Armor, then have it waiting for me in a package with my name on it. Could even specify color and poo poo. :3
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Does this mean my dreams of finding a cabin somewhere and making people come to me for my kingfucker awesome swords will be a reality?
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Dec 23, 2015 17:17
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Budgie posted:DAoC kind of had that with player housing, but they made auction house npcs anyway. The way they did it was you could buy through the NPC but it would cost like 15% extra gold or you could go to the lot the item was listed on to buy it for the actual price. Going to the lot was a pain in the arse unless you were a speed class though. It was really, really annoying to go from house lot to house lot checking vendors full of overpriced junk in the hope someone didn't know the actual value of something and underpriced it, a lot of it was just going from house to house and seeing 2g crafted items, and some houses with the same stuff but priced 1 silver lower. Barely anyone took the time to go to the houses out in the boonies either, mostly checked the vendors on the prime big estates within view of the entrance.
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Dec 23, 2015 18:08
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I remember the player vendor huts in UO. What this actually accomplished that people who lucked out and got the premium spots, like Britain crossroads, made filthy amounts of money and people who got huts in rear end end of the universe had to stand at bank and beg people to visit their lovely shop.
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Puistokemisti posted:I remember the player vendor huts in UO. What this actually accomplished that people who lucked out and got the premium spots, like Britain crossroads, made filthy amounts of money and people who got huts in rear end end of the universe had to stand at bank and beg people to visit their lovely shop. Last game I played involved kiting mobs into town to kill the vendors people put down for their shops so you could steal their spot. It was dumb as hell but still way more amusing than the AH.
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Dec 23, 2015 18:57
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I hope for us to play this bad game and find ways to make people upset
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Dec 23, 2015 19:12
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Eonwe posted:I hope for us to play this bad game and find ways to make people upset I will play any game with you #guildleader eonwe
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Puistokemisti posted:I remember the player vendor huts in UO. What this actually accomplished that people who lucked out and got the premium spots, like Britain crossroads, made filthy amounts of money and people who got huts in rear end end of the universe had to stand at bank and beg people to visit their lovely shop. Yeah, in DAoC the closer spots got a sizable markup on their goods because nobody got time to travel 20 minutes to your rinky dink mudhut.
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Eonwe posted:I hope for us to play this bad game and find ways to make people upset Everything about this game screams "We are making wild star for people who played daoc"
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Rexicon1 posted:Everything about this game screams "We are making wild star for people who played daoc" 
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Rexicon1 posted:Everything about this game screams "We are making wild star for people who played daoc" Youre telling me one video game is similar to another video game?
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Dec 25, 2015 15:30
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Please let this mmo be good. I need a new fix.
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YOTC posted:Please let this mmo be good. I need a new fix. I'm feeling the same way now and I'm really hoping this will be my new large scale pvp fix. To be honest, I need more goons to tell me I'm dumb because I don't want to get actual hyped and become a quasi-star citizen idiot.
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2DCAT posted:I'm feeling the same way now and I'm really hoping this will be my new large scale pvp fix. To be honest, I need more goons to tell me I'm dumb because I don't want to get actual hyped and become a quasi-star citizen idiot. Buy cheap elite dangerous, ignore planets, shoot dudes.
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YOTC posted:Buy cheap elite dangerous, ignore planets, shoot dudes. Ironically enough, its what I'm doing now!
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2DCAT posted:I'm feeling the same way now and I'm really hoping this will be my new large scale pvp fix. To be honest, I need more goons to tell me I'm dumb because I don't want to get actual hyped and become a quasi-star citizen idiot. It'll probably be a passable thing that people play for the free month and maybe a few extra given the founders subscription time stuff, and then will linger quietly for a few years, like pretty much every PvP MMO. I wouldn't start breaking out the coal shovels just yet. 
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Dec 25, 2015 22:52
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Nice no auction house to combat "MUDflation", I hope they announce corpse runs and xp loss next.
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YOTC posted:Please let this mmo be good. I need a new fix. No mmo is good, receive enlightenment and enjoy your bad games.
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Minsky posted:Nice no auction house to combat "MUDflation", I hope they announce corpse runs and xp loss next. Hyperinflation is usually from poorly designed gold sinks. An AH tax can be a sink, but it's not like it's a mandatory one.
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Pavlov posted:Hyperinflation is usually from poorly designed gold sinks. An AH tax can be a sink, but it's not like it's a mandatory one. Parts of this game sound cool, but a lot of it feels like someone is trying to build a time machine to 2002. Edit: I take it back. I think they are actually trying to do some combination of a lightweight EVE Online and DAOC: a game with a niche audience funded by subscriptions and unapologetically (over)complicated gameplay systems. Not 100% sure if that's gonna work because I think EVE Online's success is a bit of an anomaly. I think it's largely driven by the political metagame drama and that for years it's been the only space MMO to scratch that Privateer itch... and neither of those apply to DAOC. Minsky fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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Are there any updates for beta dates? The website still refers to betas hopefully starting by the winter. I wasn't sure if they have uh, touched on that topic.
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Usenet Magic-User posted:Are there any updates for beta dates? The website still refers to betas hopefully starting by the winter. I wasn't sure if they have uh, touched on that topic. They've been running these rolling weekly alpha tests, I'm hoping for some hard beta dates soon.
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they just did a 600 ish or so bot test to see if the engine could handle it they said the major issue was trees also it was on white snowy ground with lots of leafy green grass sticking out and I kept thinking lol camouflage then they were like yah anyone can dye their armor to blend in also the standing still animation has some weird hand flaring
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Third World Reggin posted:they just did a 600 ish or so bot test to see if the engine could handle it I was running 20fps when they were porting us into the woods and not having any lag really. I think things crashed when they tried doubling the population, but can't remember exactly. I think I was running 40fps away from the trees with a similar "600 ppl on the screen at a time" test. Running around in the woods, which didn't really have much art put into it, was actually kind of fun. Or rather, I can envision battles and ganks in the woods to be rather fun. Literally all of the art and animation looks like complete trash right now. Hopefully in the coming months things will get changed. I'm guessing up until this point, they've only been working on the engine/server? Because, yeah... The art is literally the worst I've ever seen.
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The art and animation are atrocious, but the sound 'design' is hilarious. As a Tuatha mage any of my long range rock spells have a hilariously overbassed roar to them, like a jet engine with a head cold, it's great.
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I know I will get a lot of hate for this...any chance of any sort of graphics and animation updates? Because it looks like loving runescape, and while i played original DAoC....wasn't even really great for its day(graphics wise...combat wise, yeah...we all know how good it was.) I have been too spoiled by graphic intensive games lately to go back to something that would have looked great in 1998.
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Ffycchi posted:I know I will get a lot of hate for this...any chance of any sort of graphics and animation updates? Probably?. It's my understanding that nearly zero hours have gone into art and animation thus far. I won't be playing this game very long if things were to stay the same lol.
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2DCAT posted:Probably?. It's my understanding that nearly zero hours have gone into art and animation thus far. I won't be playing this game very long if things were to stay the same lol. Ok good. That is what I was HOPING to hear. The last news I got was basically "graphics will come secondary to gameplay" Which while something I love to hear, only works if the graphics arent loving commander keen in 2016
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Ffycchi posted:I know I will get a lot of hate for this...any chance of any sort of graphics and animation updates? Almost all of the animations are placeholders, and I don't think the engine has gotten a single quality pass beyond functionality. As far as the graphics taking a back seat to gameplay, I think when they're done the graphics are going to be pretty on par with a lot of other MMOs out there, but I also know they're likely not going to sacrifice performance in large battles for fidelity. The graphics/ui/sound design is pretty rudimentary right now so expect changes.
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I mean, I could be wrong. I've only been paying attention for about 2 months now but just before Christmas they were talking about and show tree textures and grass textures and talking about how they finally decided on a 15k max poly count. That leads me to believe they have done much character stuff yet since they didn't even have that number in stone til recently.
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2DCAT posted:I mean, I could be wrong. I've only been paying attention for about 2 months now but just before Christmas they were talking about and show tree textures and grass textures and talking about how they finally decided on a 15k max poly count. That lead me to believe they have done much character stuff yet since they didn't even have that number in stone til recently. Maybe, I haven't seen a lot of new assets deployed yet. My biggest compaint isn't static objects or characters atm, more animations and terrain.
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Ffycchi posted:Ok good. That is what I was HOPING to hear. The last news I got was basically "graphics will come secondary to gameplay" Which while something I love to hear, only works if the graphics arent loving commander keen in 2016 They showed a bit of the landscape work during the crafting reveal live stream, and they said they had just started working on it, and their was no optimization of balance passes. We'll see what happens, but if the gameplay is good, I am fine with landscape that is only average. If I want something pretty with poo poo for gameplay there are plenty of other options.
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Kimsemus posted:Almost all of the animations are placeholders, and I don't think the engine has gotten a single quality pass beyond functionality. As far as the graphics taking a back seat to gameplay, I think when they're done the graphics are going to be pretty on par with a lot of other MMOs out there, but I also know they're likely not going to sacrifice performance in large battles for fidelity. The UI is having some rework put into it right now.
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Lemon King posted:The UI is having some rework put into it right now. Where'd you land after getting out of Red5 apparently just in time anyway?
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Orv posted:Where'd you land after getting out of Red5 apparently just in time anyway? Its been two studios since Red5, but I'm now at CSE.
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Oh cool, at least I don't have to worry about the final UI being good then.
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Orv posted:Oh cool, at least I don't have to worry about the final UI being good then. That is really the one thing I miss about WoW...writing and setting up my own custom UI... 
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