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Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

OwlFancier posted:

Somewhat hilariously, he says he got it from his dad.

It is genetically impossible for a male child to contract hemophilia from their father.

Good job watch dogs.

It's an X-linked recessive gene if I remember right, so if the dad is xY and the mom is xX then his dad would be a hemophiliac while his mom would be "normal". Then he winds up xY and assumes he got it from Dad. Phenotype vs genotype and all that.

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Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Not only that, he somehow finds out they're hemophiliacs, too.

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
Also, to be fair, he's completely bugnuts. It could be on him and not the writers.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



I wonder how many customer support calls the Ubisoft store has to deal with that are just like that privacy invasion. Or at least they hoped they get people that are that upset about their Aiden figurine they just bought.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm more inclined to say lovely writing than character depth.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Did they just try and put a breaking bad reference in the privacy invasions?

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Lobsterman posted:

Didn't someone say something way earlier about how the serial killer was somehow Blume's fault, or was that a different thing?

Same thing, he basically got hit by the fibbonachi mind control from that one woman with the safe house Audio logs but he was unstable enough to go off the deep end.

Fabulousvillain
May 2, 2015
Goddamn, this game manages to be completely :flaccid: with absolutely everything. Its actually almost impressive.

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

Did you just identify the hacker before he even started hacking you? That was great :allears:.

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

BlazeEmblem posted:

Did you just identify the hacker before he even started hacking you? That was great :allears:.

I imagine that the hacker just rode up screaming "I'm preparing the hack, oh poo poo how did he know I was here?"

Desfore
Jun 8, 2011

Confirmed at least one furry on the Smash team
Even if you accept the idea that the serial killer was creating the displays specifically for Aiden to find, how did he get Aiden's phone number after the last body? He's shown no hacking knowledge, and from looking at his manifesto, it doesn't seem like he could deduce who Aiden was. Actually, looking at that note, how could he possibly be smart enough to find dozens of hemophiliac women.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Desfore posted:

Even if you accept the idea that the serial killer was creating the displays specifically for Aiden to find, how did he get Aiden's phone number after the last body? He's shown no hacking knowledge, and from looking at his manifesto, it doesn't seem like he could deduce who Aiden was. Actually, looking at that note, how could he possibly be smart enough to find dozens of hemophiliac women.

Well, duh! (points at a wrinkled, stained document that looks like a pile of used fast food napkins) The script says so!

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

Fabulousvillain posted:

Goddamn, this game manages to be completely :flaccid: with absolutely everything. Its actually almost impressive.

It's also thoroughly lazy. Nearly every "big moment" that you'd think would have something unique about it is yet another convoy chase, cop escape, escort mission, or intervention that has little differentiating it from the generic or randomly occurring instances of those activities.

Motto fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Jan 4, 2016

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Samizdata posted:

Well, duh! (points at a wrinkled, stained document that looks like a pile of used fast food napkins) The script says so!

C'mon, son, don't half-rear end that joke when it hits home better with 10s effort.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

I have this" Nicky's never coming back" poo poo happening in Black Flag. Every time I hit the sea or end a contract there one dialogue fires off. Heard it about 20 times now, but still not desperate enough to move on to the story.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

All I can see is :stonk:

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
The "Nicky's never coming back" thing is an entirely normal feature of open world games that's meant to remind the player what the next story mission is if they spend a ton of time doing a sidequest. It's only getting this histrionic reaction because C&I have cut together completing all the sidequests in a row.

The voice in the madness digital trip is Damien. It's meant to represent Damien's influence on Aiden, and Aiden's subconscious perception of Damien. There's also a "Destroy or evade the police" objective in Madness. Madness is probably the hardest of the digital trips to complete, because one of the last objectives is some stupidly high timed killstreak (40, maybe?) and having your streak end once usually means you won't have time to try again.

Waffleman_ posted:

I like that both the serial killer and the victim were hemophiliacs.

All of the victims had blood disorders- this is actually shown(again, the devs expected players to be paying way more attention to the profiler) at the individual crimescenes. It's also hinted at with the blood drawings. The serial killer, whose sanity was continuously degenerating over the course of his kills, developed the belief that they were infected by a demon that was trying to control his mind.

Lobsterman posted:

Didn't someone say something way earlier about how the serial killer was somehow Blume's fault, or was that a different thing?

Yes. This is explained at the end. If it's not covered by C&I I'll go into it.

Yon
Oct 7, 2003

Just one spice?
Just one spice
Just one spice...

Discendo Vox posted:


Yes. This is explained at the end. If it's not covered by C&I I'll go into it.

Oh, so they are gonna explain it. Wasn't expecting a half-assed sidequest to get referenced outside the quest.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Discendo Vox posted:

The "Nicky's never coming back" thing is an entirely normal feature of open world games that's meant to remind the player what the next story mission is if they spend a ton of time doing a sidequest. It's only getting this histrionic reaction because C&I have cut together completing all the sidequests in a row.

The voice in the madness digital trip is Damien. It's meant to represent Damien's influence on Aiden, and Aiden's subconscious perception of Damien. There's also a "Destroy or evade the police" objective in Madness. Madness is probably the hardest of the digital trips to complete, because one of the last objectives is some stupidly high timed killstreak (40, maybe?) and having your streak end once usually means you won't have time to try again.


All of the victims had blood disorders- this is actually shown(again, the devs expected players to be paying way more attention to the profiler) at the individual crimescenes. It's also hinted at with the blood drawings. The serial killer, whose sanity was continuously degenerating over the course of his kills, developed the belief that they were infected by a demon that was trying to control his mind.


Yes. This is explained at the end. If it's not covered by C&I I'll go into it.

It's going to turn out that the borderline illiterate and mentally ill killer was somehow also able to hack into Blume's databases (like Aiden!) to identify his potential victims, isn't it? :what:

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

END ME SCOOB posted:

C'mon, son, don't half-rear end that joke when it hits home better with 10s effort.



Sorry. My PC is down, so I am stuck on my tablet...

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Regalingualius posted:

It's going to turn out that the borderline illiterate and mentally ill killer was somehow also able to hack into Blume's databases (like Aiden!) to identify his potential victims, isn't it? :what:

Dumber.

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:


That's Watch_Dogs for ya. Anything you can think of, Watch_Dogs can be even stupider.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Desfore posted:

Even if you accept the idea that the serial killer was creating the displays specifically for Aiden to find, how did he get Aiden's phone number after the last body? He's shown no hacking knowledge, and from looking at his manifesto, it doesn't seem like he could deduce who Aiden was. Actually, looking at that note, how could he possibly be smart enough to find dozens of hemophiliac women.

He had a camera pointed at the crime scene, when Aiden walked up he was able to call his phone through the camera because phones work on line of sight :downs:

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
The dumbest thing about Nikki is in the dlc where you find an audio log/voicemail from Aiden

she's moved to the Midwest and Aiden is hiding out there too. So basically no consequences for his actions again since somehow their relationship is okay

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Spiritus Nox posted:

I can't believe they actually wrapped up the serial killer plotline with a loving random Crimestopper event. That is the lamest poo poo.

in the continuing theme of comparing watch dogs unfairly to much better games lets have what a meeting with what an atmospheric insane serial killer can look like to leave something with you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXUCu3EhReY

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


Discendo Vox posted:

The "Nicky's never coming back" thing is an entirely normal feature of open world games that's meant to remind the player what the next story mission is if they spend a ton of time doing a sidequest. It's only getting this histrionic reaction because C&I have cut together completing all the sidequests in a row.

Three people posting along with the joke in the video == histrionic reaction

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Mokinokaro posted:

The dumbest thing about Nikki is in the dlc where you find an audio log/voicemail from Aiden

So collecting audio logs infects you with a desire to leave your own behind I guess?

I wonder who is ground zero of audio log distribution.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
"Did the serial killer leave the clues because he wanted someone to find him? Did he want me to find him? No, he's just a sick gently caress that I needed to kill. In this, a city full of sick fucks that I will ritualistically hunt and murder forever."

The only way to redeem Watch_Dogs 2 is to make Aiden Pierce someone the next protagonist of a future game hunts and takes down like the killer of this game. It will and can easily be a big uneventful letdown of a concept like its predecessor, just give us the sweet satisfaction of one self absorbed vigilante taking down another and for neither of them to see their own imperfections the entire time.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




That shooting clip and voyeur segment was worth every second of work you put into it, Chip.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

Crabtree posted:

"Did the serial killer leave the clues because he wanted someone to find him? Did he want me to find him? No, he's just a sick gently caress that I needed to kill. In this, a city full of sick fucks that I will ritualistically hunt and murder forever."

The only way to redeem Watch_Dogs 2 is to make Aiden Pierce someone the next protagonist of a future game hunts and takes down like the killer of this game. It will and can easily be a big uneventful letdown of a concept like its predecessor, just give us the sweet satisfaction of one self absorbed vigilante taking down another and for neither of them to see their own imperfections the entire time.
Or make them a killable bonus NPC, like how Hitman Absolution has Kane and Lynch show up and you can shoot them in their greasy, stupid faces.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10

Discendo Vox posted:

The "Nicky's never coming back" thing is an entirely normal feature of open world games that's meant to remind the player what the next story mission is if they spend a ton of time doing a sidequest. It's only getting this histrionic reaction because C&I have cut together completing all the sidequests in a row.

Just because it's "normal" doesn't mean it's not badly done or annoying. This kind of thing happens to me all the time replaying Far Cry 3, because they have it set up to play certain sound bites whenever you start up the game. It doesn't happen with every story mission, but it does with the majority on the second island, making it very annoying to play the last half/third of the game in reasonable smaller chunks. Now obviously, having this feature at all isn't a bad thing, but you shouldn't be slapping the player in the face with it every hour or two. Trust your players and make it something they can activate, instead of something that goes "Hey! Stop having fun, there's plot to do!" at regular intervals.

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!


Mr. Kibbles'll never come back. I've driven him from the internets, from me. But I know he's safe.

Chip Cheezum
Sep 5, 2006

Sic Parvis Magna and all that
That lady's mouth looks like somebody's aiming a blow dryer at it any time she speaks.

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012

Josuke Higashikata posted:

So collecting audio logs infects you with a desire to leave your own behind I guess?

I wonder who is ground zero of audio log distribution.

"Things are crazy here. The ship's been invaded by aliens, ghosts, and evil AIs. But as bad as things are, I'm sure one heavy-armed person could fix everything. Unfortunately everyone is too busy recording audio logs. I fear we may soon run out of recording media. I will now finish this recording and drop it in the hallway. The door code is 0451."

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Regalingualius posted:

You know, I just realized: for all the power of his Magic Phone, Aiden's at his most vulnerable if the network's down. I'm honestly surprised that hasn't been the gimmick for one of the missions even this late into the game; it seems like such an obvious and entirely fitting trick to play on the player.

This reminds me, the tutorial at the baseball stadium was one of the best missions in the game because it was able to have the neat scripted moments and detailed environment that we saw in the previews.

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Suspicious Cook posted:



Mr. Kibbles'll never come back. I've driven him from the internets, from me. But I know he's safe.

Thanks for this, I just started a game of Diplomacy online with some friends and I need something bizarre to post in the public press.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




chitoryu12 posted:

This reminds me, the tutorial at the baseball stadium was one of the best missions in the game because it was able to have the neat scripted moments and detailed environment that we saw in the previews.

Creating interesting concepts and setpieces on paper that then get bogged down in grimdark mediocrity in practice is practically Clock_Hounds' trademark, though. :v:

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013

Chip Cheezum posted:

That lady's mouth looks like somebody's aiming a blow dryer at it any time she speaks.

In a world where everything is hackable, the corollary is that all computers are poorly made.

Based on that axiom, we can conclude that the "blow dryer" in question is probably the CPU fan.

Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



Good news everyone!

(Read the bottom of the article)

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DialTheDude
Jan 12, 2014

PORK RICE BOWLS

Lipstick Apathy

Ometeotl posted:

Good news everyone!

(Read the bottom of the article)
A sequel where the protagonist is the Spider Tank, undoing all the damage Aiden has done.

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