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flakeloaf posted:Political figure respects local custom in house of worship. Truly this is the end of times. When it's sexist bullshit, yes.
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Ikantski posted:Here, have a picture of Wynne sitting quietly, head covered and segregated with the other women at the back of a mosque so she can show respect to Islam? I thought they were still pretty against the gays? Unless it doesn't matter so long as she acts demure enough
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Islam is not some monolithic block with the exact same opinions on every issue, shocking I know
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Ikantski posted:Here, have a picture of Wynne sitting quietly, head covered and segregated with the other women at the back of a mosque so she can show respect to Islam? Ikantski's journal: today I laid a sick burn on a woman who doesn't know I exist by acting like a sun media columnist! Go me!
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Kafka Esq. posted:Ikantski's journal: today I laid a sick burn on a woman who doesn't know I exist by acting like a sun media columnist! Go me! PS. Kafka called my burn sick 
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Slightly Toasted posted:I thought they were still pretty against the gays? Unless it doesn't matter so long as she acts demure enough Meet Irshad Manji, Canadian, Muslim, author of "The Trouble With Islam Today", and self-described "spikey-haired mouthy little lesbian". Well worth a read, and a good reminder that all of Islam isn't the equivalent of a fundamental Christan church in Abbotsford full of angry old white people wanting to throw rocks at the gays until they quit moving and young antivaxxers trying to kill their own children. Pity she's not running for office.
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I can't wait until you dumb fucks find out what most Muslims think about evolution. Or dogs.
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It's a mark of their backwardness that they've never produced a good recipe for braised spaniel.
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Baudin posted:Is this some form of subtle troll Yes.  But seriously, some people absolutely believe this. They think the same about rights, too.
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Hexigrammus posted:It's a mark of their backwardness that they've never produced a good recipe for braised spaniel. its haraam to eat predators so dogs are not allowed
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Ujjal Dosanjh: "Sadly, political correctness afflicts much of the world; in particular the Western world." 
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THC posted:Ujjal Dosanjh: "Sadly, political correctness afflicts much of the world; in particular the Western world." There's literally not a single incorrect or "wrong" sentence written here. That you've decreed a person speaking his honest and nuanced opinion on how public discourse has shifted as vomitworthy proves him right, really.
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The noble white man's oh so important opinions are being silenced! and shamed!!!111  Politicians are "paralyzed" by racial sensitivities, money and votes certainly have nothing to do with their behaviour no sir
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THC posted:The noble white man's oh so important opinions are being silenced! and shamed!!!111 Last time I checked, Ujjal Dosanjh wasn't white.
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Rime posted:Last time I checked, Ujjal Dosanjh wasn't white. THC wasn't saying that he was. Dosanjh literally calls out white men as wrongly being silenced in the piece.
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Arivia posted:THC wasn't saying that he was. Dosanjh literally calls out white men as wrongly being silenced in the piece. Brannock posted:There's literally not a single incorrect or "wrong" sentence written here. That you've decreed a person speaking his honest and nuanced opinion on how public discourse has shifted as vomitworthy proves him right, really. Checks out. +1 Dosanjh
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Hahahaha are you idiots taking dosanjh seriously about something
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THC posted:Ujjal Dosanjh: "Sadly, political correctness afflicts much of the world; in particular the Western world." My main problem with this article is that it suggests canadians have any core values at all edit: i guess you could construe dedication to mediocrity as a value Marijuana Nihilist fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Ikantski posted:Government of Canada sites feature trigger warnings now. Hopefully they get added quickly to where they're really needed, Ontario hydro bills. tumblr poisoning the trigger warning well doesnt actually make this any less legitimate + appropriate a use of a trigger warning, tho if anything it just reads to me as a cynical appeal to young people- a mostly-symbolic act that doesnt take any real effort or work (or money) but still conveys that We Care
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Holy poo poo a toll free TRIGGER CRISIS helpline
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Ambrose Burnside posted:tumblr poisoning the trigger warning well doesnt actually make this any less legitimate + appropriate a use of a trigger warning, tho It's a dog whistle to the militant PC crowd that enjoy seeing the concept of trigger warnings validated, that's kind of what I thought too. From what I've read about the horrors of native reserves and Winnipeg, the people closest to this problem probably have the stomach to read a website without needing a government helpline.
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Ikantski posted:It's a dog whistle to the militant PC crowd that enjoy seeing the concept of trigger warnings validated, that's kind of what I thought too. From what I've read about the horrors of native reserves and Winnipeg, the people closest to this problem probably have the stomach to read a website without needing a government helpline. Triggers are actually a real thing for people with legit PTSD, fyi
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"the militant PC crowd"
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Ikantski posted:It's a dog whistle to the militant PC crowd that enjoy seeing the concept of trigger warnings validated, that's kind of what I thought too. From what I've read about the horrors of native reserves and Winnipeg, the people closest to this problem probably have the stomach to read a website without needing a government helpline. That kind of mentality actually exacerbates the problem. First it minimizes the scale of the problem because it implies that the traumatized victims can deal with it on their own. Second, it harms victims who can't handle the trauma even more because they are expected to have the ability to deal with it and when they can't meet society's expectation of them and try to find help and find little to none, well, it doesn't usually end well. See: Mental Health issues in Veterans who are expected to sack up.
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Frankly, if anything needs a trigger warning, a discussion about rape, kidnapping and murder probably does. It seems pretty unreasonable to moan about this.
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PT6A posted:Frankly, if anything needs a trigger warning, a discussion about rape, kidnapping and murder probably does. It seems pretty unreasonable to moan about this. Most of Ikantski's posts are pretty unreasonable tbf.
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Throwing your wife off a balcony should be a valid trigger therapy for ptsd cf good old Canadian Boys am I right
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PT6A posted:Frankly, if anything needs a trigger warning, a discussion about rape, kidnapping and murder probably does. It seems pretty unreasonable to moan about this. Two in a row! Cultural Imperial posted:Throwing your wife off a balcony should be a valid trigger therapy for ptsd cf good old Canadian Boys am I right Why she wants to stay in the basement apartment.
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Ikantski posted:It's a dog whistle to the militant PC crowd that enjoy seeing the concept of trigger warnings validated, that's kind of what I thought too. From what I've read about the horrors of native reserves and Winnipeg, the people closest to this problem probably have the stomach to read a website without needing a government helpline. Personally, I think it's more pathetic that people get upset over a government website warning citizens of poo poo. How sad is your life that warnings disturb you? Do these people start cursing when tv shows tell them there's violence?
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flakeloaf posted:Political figure respects local custom in house of worship. Truly this is the end of times. Some customs shouldn't be honoured. THC posted:Ujjal Dosanjh: "Sadly, political correctness afflicts much of the world; in particular the Western world." I don't know why he had to frame his argument around white men being "silenced" but the underlying criticisms he makes of multiculturalism seem pretty on point. quote:Recently there was an incident in Richmond, B.C., where a strata council executive ordained that its meetings will be conducted in Mandarin only. No English was to be allowed. At least 30 per cent of the residents of the strata in question didn't speak Mandarin. This shocking episode landed in the midst of the already hot controversy around the Chinese-only signs of various commercial establishments in Richmond. The Richmond council has failed to show any real leadership on these unnecessarily isolationist signs.
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They aren't afraid of being branded racists, they are afraid to piss off a powerful voting demographic. The problem isn't with "political correctness", the problem is liberal democracy itself. Sorry 'bout it girl.
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Helsing posted:Some customs shouldn't be honoured. Then don't go into the place where they make people obey stupid rules. Accepting their invitation and then being disruptive, even if she'd have been in the right, would've been a dick move.
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Helsing posted:Some customs shouldn't be honoured. Are you saying that she shouldn't have gone, or that she should have gone and loudly protested?
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flakeloaf posted:Then don't go into the place where they make people obey stupid rules. Accepting their invitation and then being disruptive, even if she'd have been in the right, would've been a dick move. Then how is she supposed to show grief for those killed and injured in the Paris and Beirut attacks?
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THC posted:They aren't afraid of being branded racists, they are afraid to piss off a powerful voting demographic. The problem isn't with "political correctness", the problem is liberal democracy itself. Sorry 'bout it girl. I agree, but that makes the problem bigger not smaller. Social democracy isn't sustainable without a mainstream cultural consensus supporting it, which is very hard to maintain when the government and most of civil society seem totally comfortable with the idea that Canada has no "national" characteristics whatsoever. flakeloaf posted:Then don't go into the place where they make people obey stupid rules. Accepting their invitation and then being disruptive, even if she'd have been in the right, would've been a dick move. Jack of Hearts posted:Are you saying that she shouldn't have gone, or that she should have gone and loudly protested? I don't know why she was there to begin with so I'd need more information before properly answering these questions. But I'd say it should be a bedrock principle that a Canadian politician shouldn't legitimize or subject themselves to that kind of blatant sexism. The role of Canadian politicians and the Canadian state should not be to form alliances with socially conservative community leaders or groups. The only reason I don't call on such groups to be actively suppressed is that I think it would be counter productive, and would give the government more power than it could responsibly handle. So we're stuck taking the slow route and waiting for these people, or more likely their children or grandchildren, to abandon these beliefs. I think that go slow approach is probably the only viable strategy, but while we're waiting we really don't need our politicians acting like this kind of poo poo is OK.
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Helsing posted:it should be a bedrock principle that a Canadian politician shouldn't legitimize or subject themselves to that kind of blatant sexism. Completely agreed, and yeah it would definitely be easier to take a stand on exemplifying Canadian values while in office if we had some coherent idea of what those values were. Gender inclusivity is a pretty low bar to clear, you'd think she could reliably manage that, I'm disappointed that she missed that opportunity, but if not going was literally not an option for her (I'd have a hard time accepting this) then toeing the line is the politest alternative I can think of. I would hope there are advisors who she listahahahahh I got myself again.
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Helsing posted:I don't know why she was there to begin with so I'd need more information before properly answering these questions. https://twitter.com/kathleen_wynne/status/667779517973463040 http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/aftermath-of-terrorist-attacks-no-time-for-hate-says-wynne quote:Acknowledging the “extraordinary circumstance” of being allowed to speak in the section of the mosque reserved for male worshipers, Wynne said religion has no place for hate.
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