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if they were trying to put the elite controller in with rift then you would have a valid complaint
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Jan 4, 2016 18:20
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Al! posted:Sony is a profitable company (in large part due to the games business). Facebook has a lot of capital behind it but is not structured in a way so that they could tell shareholders well we're out 400 mil on these things but at least we got them into people's hands which is a major part of our 5 and 10 year plans with the PlayStation 4 and not get strung up their plan is to sell them at a loss. they have said this all along. they have a way more flexible corporate structure than sony and way more capital with which to work. facebook is structured so that it can do whatever it drat wants because shareholders don't do poo poo when you're worth $275 billion
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Jan 4, 2016 18:20
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Al! posted:Sony is going to have a presser shortly after Oculus preorder mania has died down where they out price it because they're the only company poised to sell the thing as a loss and it will be amazing sony has a CES press conference tomorrow, they can pull a two-hundred-and-ninety-nine dollars and just kneecap oculus
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Jan 4, 2016 18:20
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Pinterest Mom posted:sony has a CES press conference tomorrow, they can pull a two-hundred-and-ninety-nine dollars and just kneecap oculus
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Jan 4, 2016 18:21
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do you think you'll be able to use the ps4 vr headset on pc?
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Jan 4, 2016 18:22
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have we actually seen much about sonys headset, because i havent
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Jan 4, 2016 18:22
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also i don't really see why keyboard+mouse wouldn't work for occulus and why a controller is so absolutely required that it needs to be bundled i guess you need a controller for that treadmill thing that the rift also doesn't come with? and since the only good vr games are going to be 1st person, a mouse would be better than a controller wouldn't it?
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Jan 4, 2016 18:22
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Valeyard posted:have we actually seen much about sonys headset, because i havent yeah, they've shown it off a lot
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Jan 4, 2016 18:23
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Al! posted:does capcom have businesses outside of games & games merchandise because they've quietly been pulling a konami for years no capcom is just run of the mill incompetent. they have no loving clue how to handle video game franchises.
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Jan 4, 2016 18:23
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Pinterest Mom posted:sony has a CES press conference tomorrow, they can pull a two-hundred-and-ninety-nine dollars and just kneecap oculus if Sony is smart they will do this again, investors loved the way they slapped down the bone on price even though it is clear that they wouldn't make a ton of profit on the devices themselves
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Jan 4, 2016 18:23
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Awia posted:do you think you'll be able to use the ps4 vr headset on pc? probably not? certainly not in any officially supported way
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Jan 4, 2016 18:23
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controllers are ownage and much more comfortable and portable when youre wearing a vr headset you dont want to have to sit down at a loving a desk to use keyboard+mouse
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Jan 4, 2016 18:24
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Pinterest Mom posted:yeah, they've shown it off a lot fair enough, im assuming that maens its ps4 only then...so its not even in competition with occulus rift yet
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Jan 4, 2016 18:24
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Pinterest Mom posted:probably not? a whole market segment, like tears in the rain
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Valeyard posted:controllers are ownage and much more comfortable and portable or maybe you do when youre tethered by a bundle of cables?
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Jan 4, 2016 18:25
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Valeyard posted:fair enough, im assuming that maens its ps4 only then...so its not even in competition with occulus rift yet of course it's in competition. you'll likely be able to get a ps4+psvr headset for the price of an oculus rift, and it'll have more exclusive content.
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Awia posted:a whole market segment, like tears in the rain I owned a viao Sony should stay the hell away from pcs
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Jan 4, 2016 18:26
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Awia posted:a whole market segment, like tears in the rain
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Shaggar posted:aint nothing wrong with killing thousands and thousands of Nazis. Pinterest Mom posted:sony has a CES press conference tomorrow, they can pull a two-hundred-and-ninety-nine dollars and just kneecap oculus im already thiiiiiiis close to just not eating at all so ill be dead soon
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Jan 4, 2016 18:28
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Ludwig van Halen posted:also i don't really see why keyboard+mouse wouldn't work for occulus and why a controller is so absolutely required that it needs to be bundled no, a mouse only has one plane of movement. a controller has two. Also, you're wearing a giant headset, so you can't see your keyboard. this is about making it easy for people - you can still use mouse + kb, but it'll be a pain in the rear end the treadmill thing is a dumb gimmick not made by oculus
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Jan 4, 2016 18:28
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Blackula69 posted:no, a mouse only has one plane of movement. a controller has two. Also, you're wearing a giant headset, so you can't see your keyboard. this is about making it easy for people - you can still use mouse + kb, but it'll be a pain in the rear end 
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Jan 4, 2016 18:29
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Bhodi posted:console market is 10x larger than the pc market, and also buys more dollars worth of games per capita how can you say this with any degree of confidence when steam doesn't release sales figures?
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Jan 4, 2016 18:29
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Pinterest Mom posted:of course it's in competition. you'll likely be able to get a ps4+psvr headset for the price of an oculus rift, and it'll have more exclusive content. this is probably unlikely, and while psvr will perhaps have some high-profile exclusives, the processing power of the PC makes it the lead platform for VR by a mile i really have no idea how the playstation VR is going to work considering the hardware inside the console.
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Jan 4, 2016 18:30
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Blackula69 posted:i really have no idea how the playstation VR is going to work considering the hardware inside the console. answer: it wont
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Jan 4, 2016 18:31
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Awia posted:how can you say this with any degree of confidence when steam doesn't release sales figures?
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DuckConference posted:i don't really get bloodborne it's a game that lets unskilled gamers feel like real achievers by brute forcing their way to victory
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Jan 4, 2016 18:32
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Blackula69 posted:this is probably unlikely, and while psvr will perhaps have some high-profile exclusives, the processing power of the PC makes it the lead platform for VR by a mile it comes with an external video card is my understanding lol
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Jan 4, 2016 18:32
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Awia posted:how can you say this with any degree of confidence when steam doesn't release sales figures?
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Blackula69 posted:this is probably unlikely, and while psvr will perhaps have some high-profile exclusives, the processing power of the PC makes it the lead platform for VR by a mile there's an addon part that comes with it that plugs into the playstation, presumably with a better gpu in it like a sega cd or 32x
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Jan 4, 2016 18:32
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Bhodi posted:because publishers do, ubisoft for example reported sales last year and pc sales were 23% of their profits (which are significantly higher per sale due to not having to pay license percentages to sony/microsoft) kalstrams posted:any two of last-gen consoles have sold more units than there were active users on steam last year ive been owned
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Jan 4, 2016 18:33
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Blackula69 posted:this is probably unlikely  you can get a ps4 for 300$. sony have said that the price of psvr will be comparable to the price of the console. i expect oculus to probably charge 700$
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Jan 4, 2016 18:34
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kalstrams posted:how loving old are you you are moving around constantly in VR, which fucks with your sense of space. it's not hard to type without looking, it's difficult to type without looking when the expected visual feedback isn't there and you're getting other inputs at the same time so what you guys are saying is that oculus shouldn't have included a controller that probably cost them $10 because instead they should have depended on users having janky old busted 360 controllers or some motionjoy poo poo, or being able to use their keyboards without looking while in VR this is why cjs don't make business decisions
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Jan 4, 2016 18:34
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23% is actually pretty huge for the PC market when you realize that the xbone was only at 11% for them
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Jan 4, 2016 18:35
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Pinterest Mom posted:
yeah i guess if you just make up a random price with no relation to anything, that might work
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Jan 4, 2016 18:36
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Blackula69 posted:no, a mouse only has one plane of movement. a controller has two. Also, you're wearing a giant headset, so you can't see your keyboard. this is about making it easy for people - you can still use mouse + kb, but it'll be a pain in the rear end i can put my fingers on wasd just by feeling for the lil' nub on the F key the two planes of movement i don't really get tho. the two supposed planes of movement don't really help in counter strike
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Jan 4, 2016 18:36
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I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is paying Facebook to include an Xbox One controller to drive Windows 10 adoption.
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Blackula69 posted:yeah i guess if you just make up a random price with no relation to anything, that might work oculus has been doing the "you're going to have to get a second job" routine, it's not going to be cheap
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pseudorandom name posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft is paying Facebook to include an Xbox One controller to drive Windows 10 adoption. this is the most likely scenario and anyone who plays counterstrike in VR deserves the brutal motion sickness they get
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Blackula69 posted:this is the most likely scenario fair enough either way, the mouse works fine for whatever 1st person walking simulator you'd play
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