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If anyone wants some light reading on the subject, google tells me the text of the ATF ruling is also out. https://www.atf.gov/file/100896/download e: derp, that was just one of 'em. https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/firearms-rulings and go to the end for it. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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Ugh we're never going to be free of Romneys or Bushes are we.
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Salt Fish posted:The easier it is to make a good argument the less justified someone is for making a bad one. If they're so dumb then a good faith breakdown of their core message should be easy. Social security is something that you pay for in advance so its not exactly sucking off a teat. Statistically most people taking SS today will not have contributed what they will take out, just FYI. I'm not going to do a good faith breakdown of what some racist moron says, you can go ahead though.
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LeeMajors posted:Sounds like one of my college camping trips. Should send a girl scout troop to camp out next to them. Would be hilarious. They would do so much better.
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Obama comes out of side of research and science, claims "they work."
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Salt Fish posted:Don't you think this is a pretty lovely point? If that guy paid taxes he should be eligible for social security regardless of possibly having some nonspecific bad opinion. Just because the government helps him in one way doesn't mean that it can't do other things wrong. It's really a non-sequitur as far as this situation is concerned.
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BlueBlazer posted:Should send a girl scout troop to camp out next to them. Would be hilarious. They would do so much better. That sounds about as good as setting up a daycare next to a dingo farm though.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "This is not a plot to take away everybody's guns." ~ Barack Obama, announcing his plan to grab all your guns. Taqiya! 
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gradenko_2000 posted:Well if it's so cold then how can global wAFHJASKJIJAISJHH--- Wanna ask these guys "If Global Warming, Why Cold?" So very much now just to mock them. Then again they likely wouldn't get the joke. Maybe attached to a box of sugar free gummy bears/gum. Or perhaps a box of frozen hot pockets to taunt them if they have no source of heat since the feds will soon be shutting off power (on the off chance the building has a microwave). icantfindaname posted:Romney was an old business android pressed into service in a different job than he was built for, Rubio is the new and improved model. Now with Hispanic and Youth Appeal It might have worked if Trump-bot's jammers weren't set to specifically fill those bands of the voter spectrum with hateful noise.
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Sir Tonk posted:Taqiya! FOX News is going to be insufferable today.
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I guess Obama cried too which is proof he's a commie liberal queer false flag gun stealer Benghazi-doer
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Luigi Thirty posted:I guess Obama cried too which is proof he's a commie liberal queer false flag gun stealer Benghazi-doer 8/10 No mention of muslim or atheist.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I guess Obama cried too which is proof he's a commie liberal queer false flag gun stealer Benghazi-doer Now, now. Hillary did Benghazi, Obama's Muslim.
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when is he actually going to do an executive action? he has announced it like 8 times
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zoux posted:Ugh we're never going to be free of Romneys or Bushes are we. If you're not ready for the Chelsea/Malia Democratic primary to unseat President Jenna Bush, I don't know what to tell you.
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Lol, we went from OH GOD IT'S THE 2013 41P STUFF AGAIN to ending CLEO signoffs. I take it back, this really is about background checks. That has me thinking the rest of the changes are going to be minor and built to survive any court challenge, and also to make the inevitable all-the-guns-taken freakout look more crazy. This stuff's not a big deal. sparatuvs posted:when is he actually going to do an executive action? Yesterday, apparently. https://www.atf.gov/file/100896/download https://www.atf.gov/file/100886/download
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eviltastic posted:
and going into effect in 179 days, i guess? actually not sure when it hits the federal register. but sometime around 2 july
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A Winner is Jew posted:8/10 Atheist is implied by "commie liberal."
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*dances into thread* Lumping the mentally ill in with mass murderers doesn't help reduce the stigma against seeking diagnosis or treatment. This might be counterproductive. *dances out of thread*
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Any governors react yet to Obama's announcement today?
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eviltastic posted:Lol, we went from OH GOD IT'S THE 2013 41P STUFF AGAIN to ending CLEO signoffs. I take it back, this really is about background checks. That is a strange change as NFA firearms probably make up a veery small portion of guns used in crimes. I mean the change makes sense but it won't actually do much to fix the problem.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Any governors react yet to Obama's announcement today? 
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What's the joke behind "sugar-free gummy bears"?
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haveblue posted:What's the joke behind "sugar-free gummy bears"? They cause diarrhea.
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"If we can save the life of just one child, we have to do it!" *wipes tear away after photo shoot, kills child of his own citizen via drone, shoots hoops*
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zoux posted:Ugh we're never going to be free of Romneys or Bushes are we. The Adamses managed to stay politically prominent for about one hundred and fifty years so...
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TheDisreputableDog posted:"If we can save the life of just one child, we have to do it!" Hahahaha you're such a stupid rear end in a top hat
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Obama took all of my guns just now and I'm on the train car to the FEMA camp and I have to get gay married and Facebook is charging me a monthly fee.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Obama took all of my guns just now and I'm on the train car to the FEMA camp and I have to get gay married and Facebook is charging me a monthly fee. yeah but Twitter might let you enter 10,000 characters soon
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The Brookings Institute: Anything he does will be weak, and uppity, if he actually does a gun ban, it won't last the time it takes to dry -  Yesterday before Obama roundhouse kicked all future gun owners
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funtax posted:Distillery equipment, but close enough. His head is also present at the scene of Luke's murdered family. I'm sure he's not aware of this, but Madison's writings are not definitive of what the founding fathers intended, even if one wants to believe in the idiotic notion that the framers' intent should mean jack poo poo today. The first two major American political parties main point of contention was the relative power of the federal government versus the States. For the most part, Madison and the anti-federalists lost.
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Guess who also wrote the second amendment which includes the words "well regulated" 
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stinkles1112 posted:Hahahaha you're such a stupid rear end in a top hat He's the inspiration of my next children's book: "The Saddest Little Concern Troll"
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Senf posted:yeah but Twitter might let you enter 10,000 characters soon If it encourages people to write one blog post instead of three dozen tweets in a row, good.
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Here's his actual statement: Joementum posted:Guess who also wrote the second amendment which includes the words "well regulated" What's the case law on that clause, by the way? Why does it seem to be completely ignored in American jurisprudence?
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Torpor posted:That is a strange change as NFA firearms probably make up a veery small portion of guns used in crimes. I mean the change makes sense but it won't actually do much to fix the problem. That's why I'm saying they actually mean it when they're talking background checks - the main point of gun trusts is evading the signoff requirement, not the background check. If this were about being as aggressive as possible with gun control under a pretext, they'd have kept the signoff requirement. Still reading, but thus far this strikes me as housekeeping stuff that's being talked up like a major thing because right now is a great time for Dems to stir the pot.
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zoux posted:What's the case law on that clause, by the way? Why does it seem to be completely ignored in American jurisprudence? Basically, the NRA packed the Judicial Committee to for the past few decades to ensure that only judges that are friendly to the 2nd Amendment get picked up, and its had a direct effect on the interpretation of the 2nd in the Federal Courts
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