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Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.
Supplementing hhonors points with cc spends and such is useless. SPG is way better for now with that and also better rates imo than Hilton when staying at their respective properties.

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FunOne
Aug 20, 2000
I am a slimey vat of concentrated stupidity

Fun Shoe
Are any of the rental car companies' benefits worth it? I got stuck with Avis after a few years with IBM and haven't switched. I don't think I've ever gotten a free rental out of it, maybe a discounted day or two. Has been good for the occasional upgrade, but nothing super notable since I stopped the weekly travel.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

I like how the Emerald selection works for National and it's spoiled me for car rentals. Pretty consistent on being upgraded.

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..
Yeah I think once you get up to Executive (which doesn't take a whole lot) you get some decent upgrades.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Agreed on national. Also get rental days fairly quickly (1:6 ratio)

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal
I really like National too.

DJCobol
May 16, 2003

CALL OF DUTY! :rock:
Grimey Drawer
I've used all the major rental places and national is by far the best. Even at smaller airports that don't have an emerald aisle or executive selection they still usually give me whatever I want and only charge me for a midsize.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

I don't know what all the complaints about hertz are for. I've not had a problem with them as presidents circle or whatever their top tier is (although we have a Corp contract to get cars with less than 15k miles). I think I had 16 rentals from 10/15-12/15 and swapped out the Chrysler 200 every time I got one. I'm not paying for the gas, so I didn't care that I had to take a jeep instead once. Caveat though, I'm usually dealing with bigger airports/

I've got 4500 hertz points which is good for more than a week rental (2750 points), or they transfer to other programs (600:500 for AA, or 600:1200 for southwest if you fly them). I also get 500 United miles for every rental. I think I've gotten 6k-7k United miles in the last couple months only from rentals.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
National is the only decent rental car company.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

If you are fortunate enough to fly to an airport with Silvercar, I strongly, strongly recommend them. It's the future.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Cacafuego posted:

I don't know what all the complaints about hertz are for. I've not had a problem with them as presidents circle or whatever their top tier is (although we have a Corp contract to get cars with less than 15k miles). I think I had 16 rentals from 10/15-12/15 and swapped out the Chrysler 200 every time I got one. I'm not paying for the gas, so I didn't care that I had to take a jeep instead once. Caveat though, I'm usually dealing with bigger airports/

I've got 4500 hertz points which is good for more than a week rental (2750 points), or they transfer to other programs (600:500 for AA, or 600:1200 for southwest if you fly them). I also get 500 United miles for every rental. I think I've gotten 6k-7k United miles in the last couple months only from rentals.

Cause for national you just walk up to any car without breaking stride, get in, and drive off. No name board, no tiny office if they hosed something up, no talking to anybody.
Its seriously so much better I don't know how other places still exist.

Hot Dog Day #91
Jun 19, 2003

Seriously national is the only choice for business travelers. You may be able to get a cheaper Kia Rio if you book through Budget with your AAA discount while you schlep the kids around West Palm, but for business it's no contest.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



movax posted:

If you are fortunate enough to fly to an airport with Silvercar, I strongly, strongly recommend them. It's the future.

Looks nice but lol at getting my bosses to let me roll in an Audi.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Uncle Jam posted:

Cause for national you just walk up to any car without breaking stride, get in, and drive off. No name board, no tiny office if they hosed something up, no talking to anybody.
Its seriously so much better I don't know how other places still exist.

Not having to interact with anyone is a huge plus. And you don't get 'upgraded' into more car than you need (looking at you Hertz, if I wanted an SUV I would have reserved one). You just pick one and go. If they have nothing you like in the aisle just ask nicely and they'll bring you whatever you ask for within reason as long as they have it.

My only complaint with National is that their point system is based off rentals, not days or price. And I normally rent for a week at a go. So I don't earn all that many free days. But it doesn't bother me much since I rarely use my rental car days anyway.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

There's a thread on FT saying that there's a new AA elite status challenge. First, can I do this if I don't already have status with an airline? Second, is it worth spending $200 of my own money on a platinum challenge (for 12,500 EQMs)?

I added them up and I'll have at least 7300 miles flown in this month alone on AA. Many more to come over the next 3 months, so I should hit the 12,500 easily.

e: could I select AA on my Amex PRG card and get $100 of the $200 refunded for this year's airline reimbursement?

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

I'm sure you're aware that the challenges were to be axed this year, I'd do it. $200 is nothing especially if you end up with international travel that puts you through HKG. Lounge access there is on another level.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

air- posted:

I'm sure you're aware that the challenges were to be axed this year, I'd do it. $200 is nothing especially if you end up with international travel that puts you through HKG. Lounge access there is on another level.

Yeah, I'd read that. I may do it. HKG I doubt, but I do have J award tickets on Qatar MIA-AUH and DXB-FCO this year and then a return on AA from MXP-MCO.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Midjack posted:

Looks nice but lol at getting my bosses to let me roll in an Audi.

Also pricing it out, its twice the negotiated rate with national so fffff.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Silvercar is cool. But offsite at most airports. I find even the lowest tier of rental where you get in the car and go to be faster out of the airport. Dropping off at the terminal via silvercar is great though.

Also their nav systems are horribly outdated and they don't come with a backup camera which is mindboggling for an Audi.

ScooterMcTiny
Apr 7, 2004

Does National do status matching? I have president's circle with Hertz via Delta Diamond status, but have no real loyalty to them.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
I doubt they would match a not-real status but you can try!

Silvercar is OK, but if it's not on a promo rate it's way too expensive and it's not all that convenient. I'll stick with my gangsta 300Cs from National.

Beef Of Ages
Jan 11, 2003

Your dumb is leaking.

ScooterMcTiny posted:

Does National do status matching? I have president's circle with Hertz via Delta Diamond status, but have no real loyalty to them.

They did last time I looked. I matched there from Avis.

Beef Of Ages
Jan 11, 2003

Your dumb is leaking.

Cacafuego posted:

Yeah, I'd read that. I may do it. HKG I doubt, but I do have J award tickets on Qatar MIA-AUH and DXB-FCO this year and then a return on AA from MXP-MCO.

J awards will get you lounge access, I believe. They do on UA, and I believe AA is the same way. So does the status really matter in this case?

DJCobol
May 16, 2003

CALL OF DUTY! :rock:
Grimey Drawer
http://consumerist.com/2016/01/04/would-you-share-a-hotel-room-with-a-stranger-for-half-off-your-bill/

quote:

What would you be willing to do in order to cut your next hotel bill in half? How about sharing the space with a stranger?
gently caress you, no way.

quote:

Bryon Shannon, Winston Club founder, says the program is geared more toward business travelers, especially those who are self-employed or wooers of startups who might be on a tighter budget.
I would never even consider sharing a room with a co-worker while traveling for business. The day an employer asked me to share a room with a stranger while traveling for business is the day I turn in my 30 seconds notice of "gently caress you I quit".

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Mackieman posted:

J awards will get you lounge access, I believe. They do on UA, and I believe AA is the same way. So does the status really matter in this case?

Yeah, I had checked. Status won't matter then I think as I got the ok to expense an admirals club membership yesterday, so I'll have lounge accesses anyway.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

DJCobol posted:

http://consumerist.com/2016/01/04/would-you-share-a-hotel-room-with-a-stranger-for-half-off-your-bill/

gently caress you, no way.

I would never even consider sharing a room with a co-worker while traveling for business. The day an employer asked me to share a room with a stranger while traveling for business is the day I turn in my 30 seconds notice of "gently caress you I quit".

gently caress that, gently caress that times a billion.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Mackieman posted:

J awards will get you lounge access, I believe. They do on UA, and I believe AA is the same way. So does the status really matter in this case?

I'm pretty sure that's the case with every airline. Status just gets you in to the lounge without the front of the plane ticket.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

The only time I've ever shared a room with a co-worker is when it was on a military installation and the only other option was sleeping with the enlisted men and sharing a room with 100 other people. I imagine if I switched industries and had to go out to a remote oil rig or something I might have a similar situation. But outside of niche situations like that, there is no excuse for a company to even consider asking an employee to share rooms.

Though...

quote:

Additionally, he says that while saving money is the main objective of the program, it also helps travelers meet new people.

Maybe it is just an elaborate escort service.

tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler
For once I agree with a televangelist who said "Demons Fly Commercial"..."Copeland was babbling on about how it’s a “dope-filled world” when he finally declared he simply cannot, will not “get in a long tube with a bunch of demons.” I assume there is a better class of demon in business and first vs coach but I might have that reversed.

http://www.bipartisanreport.com/2016/01/01/televangelist-says-he-needs-private-jet-because-demons-fly-commercial/

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

My flight to DFW was delayed 2 hrs today. I consoled myself by buying an admirals club membership. I've never been in an airport lounge before, so all the complaints are lost on me and at least now, they're all good to me.

E: I wore a hoodie and jeans, not upholding the social contract :D

Cacafuego fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jan 7, 2016

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Guys I accidentally read the delta360 thread on FT send help.

Had the Porsche for my connection earlier this week at JFK which was nice.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

Cacafuego posted:

My flight to DFW was delayed 2 hrs today. I consoled myself by buying an admirals club membership. I've never been in an airport lounge before, so all the complaints are lost on me and at least now, they're all good to me.

E: I wore a hoodie and jeans, not upholding the social contract :D

Enjoy that feeling while it lasts. Meanwhile I'm probably gonna cancel my platinum Amex shortly here, end of an era.

DJCobol
May 16, 2003

CALL OF DUTY! :rock:
Grimey Drawer

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Guys I accidentally read the delta360 thread on FT send help.

Had the Porsche for my connection earlier this week at JFK which was nice.

I have a 37 minute connection in ATL in a couple weeks, and I'm hoping I get ride in one of the Porsches. Probably wont though.

Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.

Cacafuego posted:

My flight to DFW was delayed 2 hrs today. I consoled myself by buying an admirals club membership. I've never been in an airport lounge before, so all the complaints are lost on me and at least now, they're all good to me.

E: I wore a hoodie and jeans, not upholding the social contract :D

It gets better. Some of the EU ones will have self-serve liquor bars. An entire row of liquor bottles just waiting for you.

DJCobol
May 16, 2003

CALL OF DUTY! :rock:
Grimey Drawer

Blinkman987 posted:

It gets better. Some of the EU ones will have self-serve liquor bars. An entire row of liquor bottles just waiting for you.

KLM crown lounge in AMS was like that. It was awesome.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

DJCobol posted:

KLM crown lounge in AMS was like that. It was awesome.

Genever is cool

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Guys I accidentally read the delta360 thread on FT send help.

Had the Porsche for my connection earlier this week at JFK which was nice.

FT is like Reddit. There's nothing wrong with reading it. The problem comes when you start getting involved in the discussion and think what people are saying is reasonable and worthwhile.

app
Dec 16, 2014
$$$$$$$$$

Thoguh posted:

The problem comes when you start getting involved in the discussion and think what people are saying is reasonable and worthwhile.

Let's just get the CX caviar thread out of the way now... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-asia-miles/1156729-what-your-max-amount-caviar.html

TPAC F and he didn't get his second serving of caviar :cry::cry::cry:

Case. In. Point.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

app posted:

Let's just get the CX caviar thread out of the way now... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-asia-miles/1156729-what-your-max-amount-caviar.html

TPAC F and he didn't get his second serving of caviar :cry::cry::cry:

Case. In. Point.

:laffo:

So guys, this might sound crazy but I think I'm done with Cathay. It's too pricey for me and they have a chokehold on the HK market. It's ridiculous that It's cheaper to fly from Taiwan (or other surrounding cities) --> HKG --> YVR and HKG --> YVR Direct. I'm thinking of moving to Star Alliance instead because I fly mostly to Germany for work and I like to go to Japan for fun. Star Alliance has ANA, Luthansa, and the best value Turkish Airlines and the backup joke airline of Air China.

Sky team sounds tempting because I do enjoy Air France and China Eastern sends me to Shanghai which I enjoy stopping by.

I'm out of the loop when it comes to American connections, can someone please fill me in?

Maybe this is all moot anyways because I realize that most of the points I earn are more from credit card redemption points than actual flights.

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Beef Of Ages
Jan 11, 2003

Your dumb is leaking.

caberham posted:

:laffo:

So guys, this might sound crazy but I think I'm done with Cathay. It's too pricey for me and they have a chokehold on the HK market. It's ridiculous that It's cheaper to fly from Taiwan (or other surrounding cities) --> HKG --> YVR and HKG --> YVR Direct. I'm thinking of moving to Star Alliance instead because I fly mostly to Germany for work and I like to go to Japan for fun. Star Alliance has ANA, Luthansa, and the best value Turkish Airlines and the backup joke airline of Air China.

Sky team sounds tempting because I do enjoy Air France and China Eastern sends me to Shanghai which I enjoy stopping by.

I'm out of the loop when it comes to American connections, can someone please fill me in?

Maybe this is all moot anyways because I realize that most of the points I earn are more from credit card redemption points than actual flights.

Despite devaluations, I still believe Star Alliance is the best of the bunch and has carriers where miles are either worth more or easier to use. When you say American connections, do you mean the country or the airline?

In other news, goddamn it's early. Time to head to PEK. :rolleyes:

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