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OmegaBR posted:Just depleted husks for Sally to divert the demon to I guess? I still don't really get what the addiction demon is or how it functions. There was that one throwaway line from March- did I miss something that explained it a little more? That last episode was really fun and terrible at the same time. Angela Bassett's one line was great, Kathy Bate's craptacular suicide video, loving Hotline Bling- complete with terrible choreography. I'm happy they addressed Vamp U instead of it dissolving into the background. Even the Holden's sister got discussed, although in a hilarious throw away fashion. "What about our other kid?" "Oh yeah.... we're bad parents. Lets gently caress." I agree with Hostile V in that the episode could've been the last one and I would've been happy. I mean what now? They pretty much concluded everything except for how Det. Crazypants will kill the last of his victims.
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From a complete lack of concrete reference to the demon beyond that one March line, we can assume it was manifested from all the junkies using the hotel for their drug use and it haunts Sally specifically due to her entrapment, which hasn't stopped her from shooting up and encouraging others to. It could have been an interesting character, especially when you consider all the different addictions beyond drugs, such as sex and even the bloodlust. But we can also assume it was meant to be something more, considering Drake's kid sees it when they first arrive, and eventually just went the way of the Minotaur.
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While I vehemently agree that the Sally/Addiction Demon storyline has really been neglected, it looks like it's about to be addressed in the next episodes. The way the shots show the demon moving closer to Sally than ever before sort of seems to foreshadow that she's next or something ...her own addiction to Detective Psychopants being a motivating force. Having said that, I think they could've brought the addiction demon into the storyline later instead of sooner so that it didn't seem so neglected. Murphy probably thought it was all cool n poo poo and had to blow his wad on it early on and the story suffered as a result. I do love Sally's character. I just don't understand what the hell is going on with her though. That shot of her saying I'm going to kill you at the end is so dumb because duh she can't leave the hotel, so it seems stupidly obvious that someone in the John's family will somehow wind up back at the Cortez for whatever loving reason, probably.
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MadSparkle posted:While I vehemently agree that the Sally/Addiction Demon storyline has really been neglected, it looks like it's about to be addressed in the next episodes. The way the shots show the demon moving closer to Sally than ever before sort of seems to foreshadow that she's next or something ...her own addiction to Detective Psychopants being a motivating force. Having said that, I think they could've brought the addiction demon into the storyline later instead of sooner so that it didn't seem so neglected. Murphy probably thought it was all cool n poo poo and had to blow his wad on it early on and the story suffered as a result. "Probably?" "poo poo, I guess I better go rescue her then." Serious prediction: Gaga doesn't die but she realizes that one of her badly-dressed children is missing (...okay this might have a major hole in it because I have no idea if she ever knew/cared that Ren was dead) and she goes to get him back. Gaga kills Vampire Waifu, takes Chuckles the Vampire Boy back to the hotel, Killer Cop 2015 realizes that she and March are to blame for his misery, returns to the Cortez to get his son back (again) and get revenge. Hire me Ryan Murphy, I can figure out a way to work a song from Frankie Goes To Hollywood in there somewhere.
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Well that was something. Those kids spirits are going to drive everyone up the loving wall. Imagine being trapped there having your catered dinner with all the serial killers and five kids bust through the doors calling everyone faggots and running back out. Every time. For eternity. That one kid is all "you make me feel so young, you make me feel as though Spring has sprung". When you're Peter Pan, you just don't get old. Philthy fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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OmegaBR posted:Thou Shalt Not Worship False Idols - the pedophile John killed by bashing him with the Oscar, then took his brain My impression is that the guy probably wasn't a pedophile at all. He seemed pretty legitimately disgusted and baffled at John's allegations. The only evidence was that March had some polaroids that showed a pedo had stayed in the hotel and taken pictures sometime in the last 30 years, but since the pictures only showed the kid the photographer could have been anyone. At that point John was still waffling about killing, and nothing feels like justifiable homicide like killing a child molester. The perfect first victim for parent who suspects his own child might have been stolen by a murderous child molester. The flaw is that I have no idea how March would have picked that particular guy if he'd never stayed in the hotel. March doesn't use the internet, so he probably doesn't know about people outside unless maybe they get in the newspaper.
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There still seems to be some kind of unspoken 'rule' against vampires turning to ghosts, so as much as I'd like to see the annoying vampire brats yell human being every time March holds a dinner, I'm not holding my breath. Some one true love thing is a theme. So Iris with Dono = boohoo my son doesn't love me = Dono / Countess = Boohoo she doesn't love me or WAIT she does but mom just killed me? Countess lost her one true love / Valentino but then realizes maybe it's Dono since he loves her so much as well but then maybe they're both dead. Liz's one true love was Tristan and she almost gave up hope but then her son maybe is it but I also have a bad feeling about it. Ramona getting revenge (well. Trying) because she lost her one true love. March's one true love is Countess and she doesn't love him. Killing is his one true love? Ms Evers one true love is March and she's all good as long as she's laundering poo poo and in his proximity. Alex and John and Holden complete the one true love dysfunctional circle because they are family which really doesn't leave Scarlett in a a very good place because who the gently caress really loves her and who does she love??? Vampire boy's one true love is a kid mcNugget with him for Ramona so that should end well. Sally's one true love is addiction and she'll probably get what she wants in terms of running off into some godforsaken bloody sunset with it. In some form. It's not a person but a thing and the thing is some manifested strap on wielding monster. Will Drake's true love is probably his son, and Lochlann's (however the gently caress his name is spelled) is a question mark but it doesn't matter? Maybe it'll become Scarlett. Maybe they'll run the place together. And Will Drake will dress them up in his love. And I think that's it. MadSparkle fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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They never explained why Sally sews guys up in mattresses to become murder goblins, did they?
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Angela Christine posted:They never explained why Sally sews guys up in mattresses to become murder goblins, did they? They never do explain it. I think she's also got a hoarding problem.
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Why the gently caress did they feel it was necessary to go on break? I mean Jesus Christ there are 2 episodes left, the poo poo airs on Wednesday, it won't interfere with any holiday plans
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Maybe the whole production staff took all of both weeks off? Anyway, tonight on American Horror Story: "Battle Royale" Ramona gets vitality from an unlikely source; Sally uses her past to negotiate her future; and Scarlett learns about of her family's affliction.
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This worth watching if you haven't really liked the show since s2 and think s1 is by far the best?
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No, it's really not imo. They just throw more and more poo poo at the wall to see if it sticks every season since two and it hasn't worked yet.
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It's like every season of the show since S2 and even S2 is guilty of it a bit: It starts strong, by the midpoint you're on the fence and then the last few episodes you're wondering how you fell for it AGAIN.
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It's Contact/LOST Syndrome. They're so good at setting up so much interesting stuff and so bad at actually delivering on any of it. I'm half convinced they flat out forget that the show isn't a soap opera and only has 12/13 episodes to wrap it up rather than a year. I'll say this, they do find ways to stretch out these ridiculous storylines, even if it's as simple as killing somebody off. I mean, hell, even at this very moment I find myself still intrigued by the prospect of a Liz/Iris run hotel and Scarlett, who might as well be a potted plant in the lobby, finding out about the rest of her family. I guess it's better to get shocked time and time again than be left wondering if you were about to get the pellet.
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The Walrus posted:This worth watching if you haven't really liked the show since s2 and think s1 is by far the best? Honestly I would suggest giving it a shot. S1 was/is my favorite followed by 2, 4, and 3. Hotel has its flaws but there's enough in common with Murderhouse to keep me running on 70% nostalgia and 30% legit interest. Your opinion of Lady Gaga might be a dealmaker or dealbreaker.
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So far not as bad a coven and freakshow, but both of those showed potential until the final episodes.
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You know, it actually hadn't occurred to me that Iris wouldn't realize Donovan was in the line of fire. I guess I figured she was done with him since he was with her. Sally died outside the hotel herself, unless it was still technically on the property. Lousy ghost rules.
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I know that under the first season's Ghost Rules, you'd be trapped if you died anywhere within the limits of the property-- so up to the curb. I don't know if alleys count as within property limits, but I'm pretty sure Sally fell out into an alley/sidestreet of some kind.
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OmegaBR posted:You know, it actually hadn't occurred to me that Iris wouldn't realize Donovan was in the line of fire. These are not clever people. None of them.
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Oh. It's Queenie. So ... magic is real in this season and everybody knows about it.
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Tyrone Biggums posted:Evan Peters continues to be the hero this season deserves No doubt. All we need is Kit and the aliens looking down on the lights of the Cortez saying, "You know, Earth is getting kind of ridiculous." Also, fun fact: Donovan's ashes were in a Campfire Gold can, the same brand of coffee that Elsa Mars did a commercial for (and called "shite.")
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Tyrone Biggums posted:Evan Peters continues to be the hero this season deserves
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Well got "Shall Not Murder" as Lowe taking out the Countess, not that it was a particularly hard one to call. Didn't see Evers as the whistleblower though. If I'm being totally honest, Coven was borderline offensive to watch, but somehow, with each passing Hotel episode, I can't help but smile, put my hand on my cheek, and go, "Oh that AHS...." I do hope they kinda keep the rhythm of next season being more of a period piece. That's their best stuff, which is probably why nearly every episode this season has had some random flashblack (including this one with Sally's three man band.)
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I hope in the season finale all the survivors of the other seasons check in to the Cortez and the whole loving place burns to the ground with them inside and Ryan Murphy is lauded as a genius for connecting all the seasons
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Thank god queenie died, gently caress queenie. Give me a dead queenie every series please.
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Tyrone Biggums posted:Evan Peters continues to be the hero this season deserves "You may be a witch ... But I'm ... A ghost!" I almost died laughing, Evan Peters is just having the best time!
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Last episode I was utterly bored and worried that the show had finally reached the point where I couldn't even be bothered to get excited about it, but I still watched this one. I have to admit, I thought this episode actually got really good about halfway in. I'm actually pretty impressed how they managed to wrap nearly everybody into the storyline in the Ramona/Iris/Liz camp vs. Gaga/Sally camp, even got John into the mix in a way that felt believable. Even Peters is loving slaying this season. When Ghost Gaga sits down and he says "....a TOAST!" I had to rewind and watch again. I keep struggling to find the exact word to describe him, and the only one that even comes close for me is delightful. It's a delight to watch and listen to James March.
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Tyrone Biggums posted:I hope in the season finale all the survivors of the other seasons check in to the Cortez and the whole loving place burns to the ground with them inside and Ryan Murphy is lauded as a genius for connecting all the seasons There can't be many of them left. Everyone from asylum and freak show is either dead of exceedingly elderly by now. The murder house ghosts are all ghosts, the only survivor was Constance who must be pushing 70 by now (and the baby, but it hardly counts as a character). That really just leaves the witches. I suppose they could show up to investigate Queenie's disappearance, get murdered by ghosts and pull the hotel down as they die. We can hope.
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Yeah, I'm finding it hard to see the Cortez surviving this season. I hope they don't try to play it dying as tragic because that will just make us all burst out laughing. Place is a shitheap and I hope the montage of it falling apart is set to this.
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I wonder if destroying the hotel would free/destroy the ghosts? Bunch of ghosts just wandering around a vacant lot waiting for a new structure to be built.
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And as they wander around just play Joni Mitchell's parking lot song
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Angela Christine posted:I wonder if destroying the hotel would free/destroy the ghosts? Bunch of ghosts just wandering around a vacant lot waiting for a new structure to be built. I... am thinking too much about the Ghost Rules here but I seem to recall the maid from Murder House being upset about them pouring cement over her grave to build a casino, as she'd be stuck in the house forever, so IIRC it's about where their body is? I may be wrong about that.
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I think Moira was more upset about that because it meant no one would probably ever find her body and there'd never be enough evidence to reopen the investigation/charge Constance for her murder. I remember the detectives referring to her as a missing person and saying they thought Constance did it (along with all the other murders) but couldn't prove it. But I also remember a discussion about not wanting the house to be demolished (wasn't that one guy who wanted to buy it going to tear it down for some reason?) because then they'd be stuck in a a vacant lot or construction site instead of a lovely house. I should watch Murder House again. Next week, at 10/9 central.
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angerbeet posted:I... am thinking too much about the Ghost Rules here but I seem to recall the maid from Murder House being upset about them pouring cement over her grave to build a casino, as she'd be stuck in the house forever, so IIRC it's about where their body is? I may be wrong about that. She was sad they'd never find her body and thus, give her a proper burial outside. Constance dragged her corpse there after shooting her in the eye. I'd think if it left, she'd be free. The others died on the property, so even if they are buried elsewhere, the property keeps them forever. /Ryan Murphy logic
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