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Zoness posted:Evangelion jokes aside, tron can find this with ancient stirrings and kill exarch or pestermite with it. It also interacts with Amulet Bloom.
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Ramos posted:It also interacts with Amulet Bloom. Could it in tron SB's but i'm not sure... Rending Volley is super good.
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Jan 6, 2016 21:51
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Zoness posted:Evangelion jokes aside, tron can find this with ancient stirrings and kill exarch or pestermite with it. Counters scapeshift and summer bloom, a removal spell against infect, lots of situations where it'll be a good card to bring in i think the total value will merit a sideboard slot or two
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Jan 6, 2016 21:52
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UberJew posted:Counters scapeshift and summer bloom, a removal spell against infect, lots of situations where it'll be a good card to bring in Scapeshift, Bloom and Twin can beat 1 counter super easily...
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Jan 6, 2016 21:53
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mcmagic posted:Scapeshift, Bloom and Twin can beat 1 counter super easily... They have a huge advantage against tron in that they previously didn't need to even bother and can just jam their combo as fast as physically possible without fear Beating one counter is not as easy (even if it is still easy) as beating zero counters and you know you don't need to beat more than zero counters because there are none in the deck
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mcmagic posted:Scapeshift, Bloom and Twin can beat 1 counter super easily... "Your removal dies to removal."' Massive missing the point there, buddy.
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Exiles Pestermite and Exarch, counters Summer Bloom, kills Infect guys, counters Scapeshift and Living End. It does pretty good work against most of Tron's worst matchups.
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UberJew posted:They have a huge advantage against tron in that they previously didn't need to even bother and can just jam their combo as fast as physically possible without fear It's not really a huge problem for Scapeshift to run Boseiju.
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UberJew posted:They have a huge advantage against tron in that they previously didn't need to even bother and can just jam their combo as fast as physically possible without fear I'm not saying it won't be played... I will test it myself. I've just been loving Rending Volley in Tron and I'm not sure about cutting that for this. Also if you're stirring's for it you're kinda telling them they need to play around it.
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mcmagic posted:I'm not saying it would be played... I will test it myself. I've been loving Rending Volley in Tron and I'm not sure about cutting that for this. Also if you're stirring's for it you're kinda telling them they need to play around it. I don't think I cut Rending Volley, but there are sideboard cards I could cut for this (I've been loving Boil, but having a sorcery counterspell in the 75 if probably better in every situation I like Boil for as well as making it that much harder for Twin to t4 me) atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Toughness 1 OR LESS? what is going on here Edit: I guess this exiles little girl
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What's the list for this WB Eldrazi deck? I'm only really finding mono-black versions. I have a foil Eye of Ugin and a Japanese foil Eye of Ugin, and I never want to buy Scalding Tarns, so I want to try it.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:01
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Something like this: http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11255&d=263932&f=MO It's basically incredibly similar only with Lingering Souls, Path to Exile and better sideboard options.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:04
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UberJew posted:I don't think I cut Rending Volley, but there are sideboard cards I could cut for this (I've been loving Boil, but having a counterspell in the 75 if probably better in every situation I like Boil for as well as making it that much harder for Twin to t4 me) I don't like Boil at all in Tron. It's bad vs Twin and the while it's good vs Grixis, Tron should destroy Grixis anyway. I've been running 3-4 rending volley's in the 75 so that would be the first logical cut.
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That looks pretty neat to me TBH The card's sweet, I wonder if it's Modern playable? Aside from in Tron, because that's actually a ridiculous Scapeshift counter for the sideboard.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:06
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Whoever decided flashback drafts shouldnt have swiss options should be shot. Like, why do you expect people to play formats they don't know, and that won't be around for more than a week, when they might only get to play a single game of them for 10$?
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rabidsquid posted:It's not really a huge problem for Scapeshift to run Boseiju. Tron can run Ghost Quarter. One deck has a much easier time finding a copy than the other.
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Molybdenum posted:Toughness 1 OR LESS? It's also power OR toughness.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Something like this: Ya this is a better list than the mono black one. There's been a few spoilers that can replace things like the Blight Herders and maybe even the Ulamog. Again, I liken the deck to playing Jund with fewer colors.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Tron can run Ghost Quarter. Also Ulamog and Karn to eat lands. (Thats how you beat Shift)
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mcmagic posted:Also Ulamog and Karn to eat lands. (Thats how you beat Shift) I'll accept Ulamog, but Karn just gets remanded for literal days.
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TheKingofSprings posted:I'll accept Ulamog, but Karn just gets remanded for literal days. There is a reason it's not a great matchup...
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mcmagic posted:I don't like Boil at all in Tron. It's bad vs Twin and the while it's good vs Grixis, Tron should destroy Grixis anyway. I've been running 3-4 rending volley's in the 75 so that would be the first logical cut. There's a lot of irritating blue decks at the store I play at and local ptq type stuff (it's in there partially to help beat win the U/UW tron matchup, to explain just how weird we are talking) but eldrazi charm will have way more game against way more decks
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mcmagic posted:Also Ulamog and Karn to eat lands. (Thats how you beat Shift) Eldrazi charm can also help this plan by snagging a search for tomorrow/farseek/explore to buy a full extra turn to land ulamog if you've got it in your hand and realize you're going to be just too slow (which happens all the time in my experience)
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Caleb recorded a video for CFB with a UB version of the Eldrazi list, with Serum Visions, Ashiok, and Drowner of Hope. http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-calebd-modern-ub-eldrazi/
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UberJew posted:There's a lot of irritating blue decks at the store I play at and local ptq type stuff (it's in there partially to help beat win the U/UW tron matchup, to explain just how weird we are talking) but eldrazi charm will have way more game against way more decks EW. GR Tron is probably the only deck that U Tron has a decent matchup against.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Caleb recorded a video for CFB with a UB version of the Eldrazi list, with Serum Visions, Ashiok, and Drowner of Hope. I just love Ashiok as a card. Probably my favorite playable pw. I hope this deck becomes a hit because I want a home for her again.
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A colorless counterspell kind of owns
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mcmagic posted:Scapeshift, Bloom and Twin can beat 1 counter super easily... With BloomTitan it's incredibly depending on what you counter and what they kept. Sometimes a Spell Pierce or Spell Snare turns a medium hand into an incredibly dead one.
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Really it looks like the deck is getting a lot stronger with OGW.
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mcmagic posted:EW. GR Tron is probably the only deck that U Tron has a decent matchup against. Incorrect on both counts. It's good against all of the decks RG is good against, if not quite as good, and it's a lot better against things like burn and infect. RG used to be a good match up until they printed Newlamog which is basically unbeatable.
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Mikujin posted:With BloomTitan it's incredibly depending on what you counter and what they kept. Sometimes a Spell Pierce or Spell Snare turns a medium hand into an incredibly dead one. That does make sense.. Though I'm pretty sure that we won't need to worry about the Amulet Bloom matchup by the time Wail is legal to be played.
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suicidesteve posted:Incorrect on both counts. It's good against all of the decks RG is good against, if not quite as good, and it's a lot better against things like burn and infect. RG used to be a good match up until they printed Newlamog which is basically unbeatable. One gigantic exception (at least gigantic in my local meta) is Merfolk, where U Tron comes off real, real bad So bad that I was finally inspired to get around to putting GR Tron together (as i'd been planning to for a while, at the time) after going 0-3 drop against three merfolk decks
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Bread Set Jettison posted:A colorless counterspell kind of owns It even counters counters! 
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Rinkles posted:It even counters counters! It slices it dices!
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Rinkles posted:It even counters counters! Errata'd to instant
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I don't know if anyone pointed this out already or if it's even intentional, but I like that while the Kozilek stuff is often colorful in its artwork, it's usually dominated by colors like yellow, pink and purple. In other words, not colors that correspond to one of the colors of mana. There's green and blue shades in there too, but they strike me as weird, like sickly or "off" or something... not what you'd usually pick to evoke those colors in artwork. Zoness posted:Errata'd to instant They should totally have made it a sorcery with flash in the spirit of sticking as close as possible to the printed text.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Really it looks like the deck is getting a lot stronger with OGW. Tron is a T1 deck right now and it's getting 4-5 new playables in this set. Pretty nuts.
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