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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Hey guys I just got back from Taiwan. I see the country is still a stupid hot mess.

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whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Lmao if you don't walk in and take the value of the card in goods and walk right back out. Between the minimum wage just made redundant tech "experts" not being able to stop you without breaking the law themselves if they're retarded enough to care and the company not existing long enough to take action it's both consequence free and morally right. Literally the best """""crime""""".

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Dick Smith has been a joke for years, their sites are usually in pokey little parts of shopping centres or in weird locations and their stock was always hilariously out of date. I was still able to buy brand new PS1 games there to play on my PS3 when I first got it, and it was the only reason I ever went in one.

Pararoid
Dec 6, 2005

Te Waipounamu pride
My experience of them in modern times has always been one of terrible customer service.

Really nothing like the electronics hobby store I remember as a child.

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

The beginning of the end for them was dropping the hobby electronics stuff and went full on to compete in the same arena as Noel Leemings, Harvey Norman and even The Warehouse.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Varkk posted:

The beginning of the end for them was dropping the hobby electronics stuff and went full on to compete in the same arena as Noel Leemings, Harvey Norman and even The Warehouse.

Yup, that was their one big draw.

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

The liminal period where they still stocked all of that stuff but had ceased to train their staff about it was really loving frustrating. They basically jumpstarted Jaycar over here.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

mirthdefect posted:

The liminal period where they still stocked all of that stuff but had ceased to train their staff about it was really loving frustrating. They basically jumpstarted Jaycar over here.

Was gonna say this, Jaycar are half-assed retards but they filled a void left wide open by DS' dumbassery.

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

Varkk posted:

The beginning of the end for them was dropping the hobby electronics stuff and went full on to compete in the same arena as Noel Leemings, Harvey Norman and even The Warehouse.

Not really. That market was dying anyway and was constantly dropping in number of sales for quite a while before they dropped it entirely.

e: It was going downhill for them before that is what I mean, not that dropping that range wasn't a problem.

Nude Bog Lurker
Jan 2, 2007
Fun Shoe

mirthdefect posted:

The liminal period where they still stocked all of that stuff but had ceased to train their staff about it was really loving frustrating. They basically jumpstarted Jaycar over here.

I worked there during this period. It was awful. We pretty much resorted to telling new staff "and, yeah, there's all this stuff. If anybody asks about this just send them to Jaycar."

alpaca diseases
May 19, 2009

if anyone's interested 1p coins get accepted into Wellington parking meters as 20c

that is all

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

maxhush posted:

if anyone's interested 1p coins get accepted into Wellington parking meters as 20c

that is all

OH LOOK THE loving BRITS COMING OVER HERE AND RIPPING OFF US KIWIS AGAIN - John Key after he reads your posts with his spy network

Dragonstoned
Jan 15, 2006

MR. DOG WITH BEES IN HIS MOUTH AND WHEN HE BARKS HE SHOOTS BEES AT YOU
by Roger Hargreaves

pshhh 1p is probs worth more then 20c anyhow

Wafflecopper
Nov 27, 2004

I am a mouth, and I must scream

that's odd, 1p coins are both smaller and lighter than 20c, i guess our meters are a bit poo poo

Big Bad Beetleborg
Apr 8, 2007

Things may come to those who wait...but only the things left by those who hustle.

Wafflecopper posted:

smaller and lighter ... a bit poo poo

Parking meters as a metaphor.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007


Totes a realistic scenario, and one we should be prepared for. But what if they dropped it on Wellington or Christchurch? We wouldn't be prepared now. Thanks NZHerald.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
No one gives a gently caress about NZ or knows what or where it is, Herald.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
But but but we're a plucky little country that punches above its weight!

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


WarpedNaba posted:

But but but we're a plucky little country that punches above its weight!

Just like North Korea!

Solus
May 31, 2011

Drongos.
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11570087

Jamie Whyte: There's no poverty in NZ

quote:

They receive free medical care, free education for their children and enough cash to pay for basic food, clothing and (subsidised) housing. Most have televisions, refrigerators and ovens. Many even own cars. That isn't poverty.

gently caress off Jamie Whyte.

The Sin of Onan
Oct 11, 2012

And below,
watched by eyes of steel
we dreamt

Jamie Whyte posted:

They receive free medical care, free education for their children and enough cash to pay for basic food, clothing and (subsidised) housing. Most have televisions, refrigerators and ovens. Many even own cars. That isn't poverty.



gently caress me, he's literally repeating Fox News talking points. This country really is doomed.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Solus posted:

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11570087

Jamie Whyte: There's no poverty in NZ


gently caress off Jamie Whyte.

Let's read the comments!

quote:

If all the people in the photo worked, then we wouldn't need to fill their shoes in places of work with new immigrants.

quote:

100% correct Jamie, I have family living well under the 50% average income bracket with kids going to primary school, paying a mortgage and Mum and Dad studying at university and they ARE NOT going without the basics to live a comfortable and happy life. sure there is poverty out there but not to the extent portrayed

quote:

Absolutely brilliant and logical commentary on this issue. What a relief to see someone actually use facts, common sense and reasonableness in their opinion on this topic. What we have in NZ is a percentage of "Child Neglect", coming from parents who will not spend the welfare assistance in caring for their children's needs adequately, not "Child Poverty" which implies there is no or inadequate assistance in NZ to supply these basic needs if parents cannot.

quote:

Alas Jamie, your succinct and correct points on the relativity of poverty statistics in NZ won't sway anyone to your view. The hopelessness you mention spreads beyond the spiritual and into the literal. Another statistic to use is to point out that, by definition, half of the population are of below average intelligence.

One was also a link to a NZ gun store with the text "contraception for those not willing to work hard"

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:


One was also a link to a NZ gun store with the text "contraception for those not willing to work hard"

I thought comments that threatened the Heads of State weren't allowed in the Herald?

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:

One was also a link to a NZ gun store with the text "contraception for those not willing to work hard"

A call to arms for the revolution. A good post.

Anomalous Blowout
Feb 13, 2006

rock
ice
storm
abyss



It makes no attempt to sound human. It is atoms and stars.

*
Someone on Twitter caught Jamie Whyte plagiarising his own article that he'd previously written about Britain.

https://twitter.com/LI_politico/status/684955823286554625

The first two paragraphs of that editorial are an exact match with one he wrote in 2005 for The Times, maybe more.

Robo Captain
Sep 28, 2013
'If you aren't literally starving on the street you're not poor' - A rich man.

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

Anomalous Blowout posted:

Someone on Twitter caught Jamie Whyte plagiarising his own article that he'd previously written about Britain.

https://twitter.com/LI_politico/status/684955823286554625

The first two paragraphs of that editorial are an exact match with one he wrote in 2005 for The Times, maybe more.

Her next few tweets found more the same.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

inshallah

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11570604

Dr Whyte voluntarily submitted the article to the Herald, and was not paid to do so.

Dr Whyte did not inform the Herald the article had been previously published.

The Herald accepted the article in good faith. It would not have appeared had the newspaper known the background.

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~
Oh so he's a liar and is trying to backpedal out of it, what a surprise

Jacobin
Feb 1, 2013

by exmarx
I had the uh pleasure of lunch with Jamie Whyte in the run up to the last election. I honestly didn't expect his name to come across a screen of mine ever again but eh, I may have posted in here before a long time ago about this but this just jogged my memory and so I thought Id write it down and share it. The lunch was shortly before he was confirmed as the party leader candidate and was at a cafe on the Dunedin waterfront.

I was invited by my earnest intentioned friend who for a time was a real true believer that ACT could be a libertarian party and not just about racist wealthy white people. The group who attended the lunch were 5 young Pakeha men and one dual-heritage male New Zealander (person mentioned before) and Whyte. My friend invited me as a critical plant because he wanted my opinion. I genuinely was there just to observe in good faith this candidate and hoped to learn something and not any scrub muckraking stuff young nats tend to do. When Whyte later in the campaign turned around and tried to do One Law For All 2.0 after his 'principled neoliberalism' etc. was failing my friend finally got ready to excommunicate himself- anyways you can look him up if you really want to he was a candidate.

RE the lunch:

When I arrived Jamie seemed to assume that we were all members of Act on Campus and 'definitely on the same team' more or less. The first thing I noticed was that he started making jokes about the lack of young women present at the lunch, imputing that this was a problem of ACT on Campus people not bringing in enough women and some blokeish jokes about us not being attractive enough. I noticed this immediately as a sign of a deeply and solely managerial person, in reality the problem was his for not being an attractive and inspiring enough candidate, and reflective of ACTs leadership.

Some other gems just got refreshed in my memory:

1. "The global financal crisis has made people not trust reforms for the benefits of real capitalism. We have to make them trust us again for more reform so they can see those benefits, and not just as a party for people with rich mates" TLDR basically was like "the GFC is a problem for our narrative" bluntly.
2. I asked him a few well meaning questions about how he would respond to questions or issues. I asked about technological innovation, and how technological unemployment could require different kinds of policies in our time than simply calling for people to retrain he just kind of repeated that the issues were the same. People worried about technological changes were luddites and should all get new jobs (mentioned examples such as massage therapists who can work flexible hours, contrasted these flexible jobs with allusions to early 20th century kinds of manual farm labour and we should be happy).

Anyways-
My brain sometimes still gets rocked at how others brains cannot seem to grasp or even entertain the idea of social deprivation, or social poverty. Some combination of upbringing, experience and wilful blindness really does just seem to make it completely invisible to them. Like- SURE, if you apply some sort of cold alien look at material goods that we need to survive- i.e. the obsession with refrigerators- you can somehow say there is no poverty (but there definitely is even on this standard for some people but anyways) but poverty is about being in a position of having to beg or access benefits in the first place.

TLDR: full socialism plz

Jacobin fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jan 7, 2016

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It's called 'gently caress you got mine', jacobin.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

It kind of is "gently caress you got mine" though. Implicit in his article is an understanding and acceptance of large and growing inequality. Like the whole subtext is "these statistics reflect inequality, not poverty", which is fine for neoliberals or libertarians because they hold to the assumption that a rising tide float all boats. That this ideological underpinning is now demonstrably false doesn't seem to matter to them in the slightest, because they're not on any of the sinking boats.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



They also subscribe to Just World, so that those who have less have only themselves to blame for it through their in/actions. People who are poor are poor because they are lazy or uneducated, and the solution is to work harder or educate yourself - that they remain poor is simply because they haven't chosen to do that, or if they did it's because they didn't work hard enough or get the right education.


The fact that this ideological underpinning is also demonstrably false doesn't matter in the slightest because libertarianism is assembled entirely from these demonstrably false understandings of society and people. Even the ones who are on the sinking boats believe this poo poo.

Spiteski
Aug 27, 2013



http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11571162&ref=NZH_FBpage

this guy posted:

Work hard, work smart, save hard, and invest smart. Wealth creation is not rocket science - perseverance and hard work can get you there.

this guy also posted:

he 32-year-old started buying property in June 2010 with a $200,000 wedding gift from his father. He and his wife Cindy bought one place for as little as $173,000.

I started just like everyone else, with a massive cash infusion that I got from my wealthy parents.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Spiteski posted:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11571162&ref=NZH_FBpage



I started just like everyone else, with a massive cash infusion that I got from my wealthy parents.

Good post/av combo, lad.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Spiteski posted:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11571162&ref=NZH_FBpage



I started just like everyone else, with a massive cash infusion that I got from my wealthy parents.

How did you fail to quote the best part of that article?

quote:

He said at one Mt Eden property, annual $250-a-year insurance premiums had shot up to $800 a year after the Christchurch earthquakes.

"I'm not a slum landlord - I want to charge above-market rents by keeping my places better than the market average," said Mr Lin, who estimated he housed about 30 people.

"A tenant will have 20 bucks less, perhaps. But which business in the world actually subsidises their customers?"

Mr Lin began buying property with his wedding present, thinking it would allow him to endlessly play the online fantasy game World of Warcraft.

puchu
Sep 20, 2004

hiya~
That guy is me apart from the owning property bit

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Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

So you just took $200k from your parents to play WOW full time?

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