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Montasque posted:Donald Trump's campaign issues 20,000 tickets for 1,400 rally seats in Burlington VA It's right across from a park in front of City Hall, so there's plenty of space for protests. Then they can all go get gravy fries at Nectar's.
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Joementum posted:It's right across from a park in front of City Hall, so there's plenty of space for protests. Are you going to go?
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Mr Hootington posted:Are you going to go? Nah. There's absolutely no way I'd be able to park within a mile of it and standing outside for a couple hours in the freezing cold to impotently yell at an idiot with bad hair isn't my idea of a good time.
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Here's your Trump rally fight of the day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2dm2AuUr0
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Joementum posted:Nah. There's absolutely no way I'd be able to park within a mile of it and standing outside for a couple hours in the freezing cold to impotently yell at an idiot with bad hair isn't my idea of a good time. Oh go on, you could try to get the crowd chanting extracts from The Party Decides at him! Prof. Lurker posted:Here's your Trump rally fight of the day. Amateurs. This is why you ALWAYS BRING EXTRA SIGNS Bryter fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jan 7, 2016 |
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Illinois filing deadline done. Gilmore's off entirely, of course, but there's more interesting elements here. Every candidate needs to submit their own delegates...otherwise, even if they win a district, they will receive no delegates for doing so. Illinois has 54 delegates by CD, so that would be a full slate. How many delegate candidates does each candidate have? Cruz, Fiorina, and Kasich(!) 54 Trump, Christie, and Jeb! 53 Rubio 39 Carson 27 Santorum 13 Paul 9 Huckabee 2 This is not a very impressive sign for Rubio's organization.
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Joementum posted:It's right across from a park in front of City Hall, so there's plenty of space for protests. Gravy fries sound like poor-mans poutine... Speaking of poutine Cruz is killing it in rural Iowa:  LOOK AT THIS MAN!
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Joementum posted:Nah. There's absolutely no way I'd be able to park within a mile of it and standing outside for a couple hours in the freezing cold to impotently yell at an idiot with bad hair isn't my idea of a good time. But enough about the Sanders campaign.
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Jan 7, 2016 04:28
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new /pol/ poll dropped yooge, if true
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Montasque posted:But Trump got what he wanted; everyone now knows Cruz was born in Canada. Trump should convince everyone else to start wearing "Made in America" pins with eagles n poo poo at all these functions and debates. Lets see if this dial goes to 11.
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shiksa posted:new /pol/ poll dropped The silent majority goes the opposite way on /pol/
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Prof. Lurker posted:Here's your Trump rally fight of the day. The audience reaction to two pasty nerds with tiny signs is hilarious and bizarre. They're all bill odenkirk characters
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shiksa posted:new /pol/ poll dropped
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Patter Song posted:Illinois filing deadline done. Gilmore's off entirely, of course, but there's more interesting elements here. Every candidate needs to submit their own delegates...otherwise, even if they win a district, they will receive no delegates for doing so. Illinois has 54 delegates by CD, so that would be a full slate. How many delegate candidates does each candidate have? Huckabee and Rand increasingly having trouble keeping up the charade.
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Patter Song posted:Illinois filing deadline done. Gilmore's off entirely, of course, but there's more interesting elements here. Every candidate needs to submit their own delegates...otherwise, even if they win a district, they will receive no delegates for doing so. Illinois has 54 delegates by CD, so that would be a full slate. How many delegate candidates does each candidate have? Rubio doesn't want to be President.
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Montasque posted:
if no more evidence emerges and it's still basically a he said she said featuring a grab bag of the usual excuses people find to avoid believing rape victims, which is how i'm reading that article, then i suspect people will continue to give the famous powerful man the benefit of the doubt and be mean to the alleged victim, because that's the way the world works and liberals aren't any better than other people in the end
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Montasque posted:Rubio doesn't want to be President. i dont think he wants to be much of anything beyond "guy whose face is on tv"
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he wants people to give him bags of money with tens of thousands of dollars in them it's not the worst thing to want, i guess
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FOXNEWS spot breaks are populated by dueling ads by the Jeb and Rubio campaigns and pacs. I saw these two almost back to back today: Jeb's Pac hits Rubio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoS21m1PFpM Rubio's Pac hits Jeb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u30xoLGUYmY oystertoadfish posted:if no more evidence emerges and it's still basically a he said she said featuring a grab bag of the usual excuses people find to avoid believing rape victims, which is how i'm reading that article, then i suspect people will continue to give the famous powerful man the benefit of the doubt and be mean to the alleged victim, because that's the way the world works and liberals aren't any better than other people in the end Pretty much. Unless more women come forward this will die.
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Short of Hillary and Cruz I don't think there is anyone else in this race who wants to win the general.
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Montasque posted:Rubio's Pac hits Jeb: I love how now everyone in the GOP field has seen that the Trump strategy of "when in doubt, attack Jeb Bush" is gold. Attacking Jeb makes you look strong by comparison.
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the_paradigm_shift posted:Short of Hillary and Cruz I don't think there is anyone else in this race who wants to win the general. it sort of feels like christie's working hard. if i realllly wanted to maybe i could make a case for kasich. but yeah most people are in it for the bully pulpit so they can get their message heard or just to increase their future income after they move into the world of wingnut welfare i feel like omalley started out seriously but events took things in a hopeless direction for him and he just doesn't want to look like a quitter. i knew people in dc when i lived there a few years back who were hoping he'd run for president, but that was then
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oystertoadfish posted:if no more evidence emerges and it's still basically a he said she said featuring a grab bag of the usual excuses people find to avoid believing rape victims, which is how i'm reading that article, then i suspect people will continue to give the famous powerful man the benefit of the doubt and be mean to the alleged victim, because that's the way the world works and liberals aren't any better than other people in the end clickbait is gonna make a huge mint off this story, any other similar story, and any previous story from now until election day
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:clickbait is gonna make a huge mint off this story, any other similar story, and any previous story from now until election day im not disagreeing im just saying i dont think itll change anybodys mind. people will use the articles to reinforce their preexisting opinion but hey we'll all find out.... together
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Full Battle Rattle posted:So is cruz their last hope or are they gonna crucify him they are gonna crucify his rear end. trump has now turned the puppets on its main master(cruz) and because cruz was such oval office to everyone and burned so many bridges and tried to crash the government for petty power, the establishment is going to let it happen. they will probably try to use rubio since he is actually controllable.
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oystertoadfish posted:im not disagreeing im just saying i dont think itll change anybodys mind In the Jezebel article there are Hillary-supporting women who are very conflicted with how to deal with it... who knows
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shiksa posted:new /pol/ poll dropped half of the sanders votes are trolls but a decent amount of /leftypol/ voted probably.
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rudatron posted:Sanders confirmed national socialist? He always was. The serious folks at National Review gave him the title months ago.
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Montasque posted:
The Hillary left is literally incapable of responding to this other than flaccid accusations of similarities to 90s talk radio. If Trump (or Cruz, I suppose) is smart he hammers on this repeatedly while pointing out Hillary's extreme hypocrisy and power-grasping. The political climate today is much more conductive to this sort of thing than it was back in the nineties and we've already seen that decades-old crimes will deservedly come back to bite a Bill C. in his rear end. The general will be closer than most people thought if the Republicans can properly handle this. The issue is if the Republicans can survive the primary intact and be able to move past prior differences and unite their efforts for the general. I have my doubts whether this is a plausible situation for either Trump or Cruz.
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Fivethirtyeight does make nice tables of data, you have to admit: Thank you, Claire Malone of 538. So first thing to note is that while Trump's number of events is low (though not that low...14 to Cruz' 16), his events are ridiculous Nuremberg Rallies while the other candidates are meeting with 150 people in small town Iowa. The second thing to note is what the gently caress Rubio.
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The Cruz event tally is low because he has more area to cover, but they are also larger. Not Trump sized but >>> all the others. He really is the only non-Trump in it to win and you should be more scared of him than his face/record warrants, because at the moment he is running a much better campaign than either of Hillary's.
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During the Jeb! town hall tonight in NH, a Trump supporter asked Jeb why he thinks Trump is a jerk. Jeb began by saying a few nice things about Trump, like how he should be allowed to celebrate his successes and how he has stripped this election of its political correctness. Then he closed by saying that Trump made fun of that handicapped guy and that was more than Jeb could handle. I know this is an unpopular position to take, and I enjoy Jeb schadenfreude as much as the next guy, but I think Jeb is going to gain some traction in these next couple weeks. Anyway let's get back to making fun of the guy.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:So is cruz their last hope or are they gonna crucify him I would not be surprised to see the effort to tear him down by party actors continue right up to the caucuses. Whether it'll be enough and, if it is, whether anyone can take his place, are interesting questions.
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Brannock posted:The Hillary left is literally incapable of responding to this other than flaccid accusations of similarities to 90s talk radio. If Trump (or Cruz, I suppose) is smart he hammers on this repeatedly while pointing out Hillary's extreme hypocrisy and power-grasping. The political climate today is much more conductive to this sort of thing than it was back in the nineties and we've already seen that decades-old crimes will deservedly come back to bite a Bill C. in his rear end. And this is precisely why Trump said schlonged when he did - note that Trump's strategy has consistently been to say something controversial that grabs attention but has a niggling little qualifier of a defense to force his opponents to take a stand on his terms, dividing and confusing the opposition and maintaining control of the narrative. With schlonged, it turns out NPR used the term...with deportation, he cited Eisenhower, and so on. The whole point of saying schlonged was to bait Hillary into bringing up sexism, which worked. In this way, he positions himself as the nominee (Trump vs Hillary), pre-emptively attacks and defines her greatest asset (Bill), and captures the media narrative. I'm not saying it will work, but the man is a pathological narcissist, not an idiot. Consider his "ridiculous" announcement with the escalator: his comments about rapists etc immediately divided the opposition and grabbed attention. He doesn't need to pay people to cheer anymore. Once his opposition takes the bait, he says "fair is fair" and begins work on repeating a few points all listeners are intelligent enough to understand in such a way as to attempt to influence our emotional understanding of his opponent...with Jeb! it's low energy, with Perry it was stupidity, and so on. With Hillary, it's going to be lies, and stuff related to Bill. Is she competent? Can we trust her? And so on. I'm not speaking in support of Trump or predicting he'll win, so no one needs to worry about feeling defensive, but the "he's just a moron" thesis seems less and less credible the more he continues to behave in a consistent way that results in strategic benefit. The downside to this mindset, should he win the general, is that this leadership/decision making style is how you end up firing the generals and committing suicide in a bunker. His goal is to either neuter Bill or keep him scared enough to not really threaten him. In my opinion, the best way to destroy Trump is to attack him personally with the same justification - the presidency is too serious of a job to risk a man who grows his hair out really long from the back to pretend he isn't bald becoming president, and so on. Mock him, treat him like a joke, laugh at him at the debates and otherwise talk to the audience as if he weren't in the room but about him. Speak with calm, confident reassurance, and otherwise show the viewers that the Donald has no clothes. He certainly has talent, but is damaged to the point of beyond fixing psychologically. Pay attention to his pattern of media interaction and you'll see he really does operate with a strategy, which may or may not work.
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Brannock posted:The Hillary left is literally incapable of responding to this other than flaccid accusations of similarities to 90s talk radio. If Trump (or Cruz, I suppose) is smart he hammers on this repeatedly while pointing out Hillary's extreme hypocrisy and power-grasping. The political climate today is much more conductive to this sort of thing than it was back in the nineties and we've already seen that decades-old crimes will deservedly come back to bite a Bill C. in his rear end. It'll be hard to make this work for people that aren't already going to vote for whoever the GOP candidate is. Anyone over thirty has already heard all of this before and the people that haven't aren't likely to side with the person attacking the wife of a dude that might be a serial adulterer. Sure, it's great for the primaries, but is a huge risk in the general. I'd suspect they'll just let Rush and the rest of the AM crowd run with it and maybe throw in some Vince Foster, but anyone other than Trump is probably going to avoid anything direct.
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Peachstapler posted:I think Jeb is going to gain some traction in these next couple weeks. Also totally possible. He still has the biggest cash reserves and the closer we get to the voting the more impact that has. Not that he necessarily will come back, since his deficiencies as a candidate are legion. The thing to remember is that a lot can happen in the month before the caucuses. A good debate performance or particularly bad gaffe can swing polls rapidly.
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Joementum posted:Yes. Yessssssssssssssssssssss. gently caress yes. Bury that melty faced weasel.
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Montasque posted:Donald Trump's campaign issues 20,000 tickets for 1,400 rally seats in Burlington VA gently caress.
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Montasque posted:Donald Trump's campaign issues 20,000 tickets for 1,400 rally seats in Burlington VA Called it
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