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ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009

Monkey Fracas posted:

i never watched it when it was on but any reruns I see of Friends are pretty bad and that show was popular as gently caress in the day

It's like there's nothing wrong with it in that they most likely accomplished what they set out to do but it is absolutely shallow and boring in the worst way possible

there's just nothing there

I remember really liking Friends when it was first on TV. Then I rewatched a whole bunch of episodes recently and all I felt was the photocopy lady Ross sleeps with was much nicer and interesting than all of the main cast and wished there was a show about her instead and she was only in about 3 scenes in one episode.
Looking back I don't know what I saw in that show, it wasn't really bad it was just really bland and none of the characters did anything entertaining. I think I was watching it because everyone else was watching it at the time.




E: this lady -

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Doom Sleigher
Dec 29, 2004



facebook jihad posted:

I know I'm picking at low hanging fruit here, but literally any show on Food Network that involves a competition of some kind. Which is like 80% of their programming. My mom can't get enough of that poo poo and it's on the tv 95% of the time when I visit.

Like, how is that a thing? I get it stems from Iron Chef and cooking competitions like chili cook offs and poo poo, but how are there so many shows about people hurriedly cooking and stressing out about what ingredients to use for things? It must appeal to the middle aged white woman marker or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjtm_Y1h2eI

Nutsngum
Oct 9, 2004

I don't think it's nice, you laughing.

netally posted:

I'm going to defend this one. The early seasons were actually pretty good, although they look horribly dated now. It had some pretty bold female characters that have inspired many other shows, and they covered a lot of stuff that was controversial by 90s standards.

The later seasons and movies are really loving obnoxious though.

Gonna agree somewhat. I used to catch the occasional what I assume early season episodes late at night and enjoyed them for what they were. An edgier women focused drama with mild comedic pacing. Maybe I just like watching shows about New York as well.


Except Friends cause fuuuuuuuck that.

Blazing Ownager posted:

The Adam's Family owned the Munsters even 40 years ago.

This is the loving truth. The entire Munster's sthick was how "they were the normal ones" and everyone else was freaked out for no reason. The Addams Family KNEW they were hosed up and relished that poo poo hard.

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Oct 30, 2009

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My wife has friends on Netflix constantly and the problem is more than two episodes and all the friends seem like terrible people. I know tv doesn't reflect real life especially in sitcoms but compare their lives to, say, Roseanne and one seems more true to life. Friends is just 4 attractive people and Ross and chandler with amazing lives who complain and gently caress everything up.


Some parts are still funny though.

buttcrackmenace
Nov 14, 2007

see its right there in the manual where it says
Grimey Drawer
there was a terrible show on ABC about three years ago?

was supposed to be about the lives of the President and First Family

starred some fat oval office from SNL who was supposed to be the wacky one

only saw it because my DVR "recommended" it

cannae remember the name but that was the point when I disabled the "automatically record recommended shows" function forever

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


The X-man cometh posted:

Any show on HGTV where realtors are dealiing with stupid rich people.

Those too.

I don't know where they find all these rubes who want to drop the amount of money they do on a house off the grid in Alaska, then they complain that it has an outdoor shitter.

how me a frog
Feb 6, 2014
Unironically arrested development.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

happyhippy posted:

Nah, you lot are saying LOST and BSG are poo poo just because of the ending.

Nope. I've tried to watch LOST(or as I call it, JACK!?!HAS ANYBODY SEEN JACK!?!) 3 times now over the years, none of those were ever while it was on the air and I knew/know nothing about the show. Sorry, It's meandering garbage full of obvious filler as the writers panic over still somehow having a story to tell every week. I made it a few episodes into season 2? on my last attempt. Attempt one was 30 minutes into the pilot and attempt 2 was maybe 3 or 4 episodes into season 1. Maybe I'll check Youtube and see if there's an abridged "all of the kinda sorta maybe interesting Dharma Initiative stuff, only not strung out over 60 hours of wet fart," collection.

Now, some of my problem with LOST is certainly with the format. It's a weekly show, meant to advance the plot at a glacial pace and have a cliffhanger to snag viewers for next week, and I'm watching episodes mere minutes, hours or days apart. The commercial gaps are annoying as everything is slightly recapped multiple times per episode to help catch more viewers mid episode, which is just loving irritating when those recaps serve no purpose as there are no "intermissions" on DVD/streaming. Further, the show was produced right before/during binge watching poo poo became a normal pastime and turnaround on TV to DVD seasons got much shorter, meaning each episode is written slightly differently than many shows now, to refresh the audience about what they saw a week ago, not 30 seconds ago. More narrative shows today seem to kinda split the difference these days on recap, or just put it all before the episode, since fans can find recaps and discussions on Youtube and fansites, or even the show's own web or mobile site, should they feel the need. Stuff made direct for streaming or for HBO/Showtime etc just make their shows like really long movies.

So a fan or official (not financially viable) recut of LOST might make the show palatable to the few remaining troglodytes like me that kinda want to give the show a chance. In its native form though, I find the show painful to watch.

I've never seen any of the BSG reboot, nor do I know any of it's plot, so maybe I can torture myself with that next time I feel like watching a TV series.

Luvcow
Jul 1, 2007

One day nearer spring
lost was good

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender
Temors, the tv series.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_to_Love

I saw one episode of this, and it was mainly the women crying and trying very hard to get the attention of the single, brick-stupid man.
lmao the chick who won was the one who weighed the least

milkingmycow
Mar 28, 2008

by Cyrano4747
The Bradys

czarmonger
Aug 16, 2008

ask me about my brothel
Nobody even remembers that Guy Fieri hosted Minute To Win It where people had to do challenges like balance cookies on their face and pick things up with their mouths, all in a giant "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" style arena stage with crazy lights.

It was the last hoorah of the ridiculous game show era.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

czarmonger posted:

Nobody even remembers that Guy Fieri hosted Minute To Win It where people had to do challenges like balance cookies on their face and pick things up with their mouths, all in a giant "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" style arena stage with crazy lights.

It was the last hoorah of the ridiculous game show era.

Then you need to see The Cube.
Can you bounce a ball into a bucket?
Can you click a button when a light is in the right place?
Can you do this in a glass walled room pretending its Mission Impossible?

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

happyhippy posted:

Then you need to see The Cube.
Can you bounce a ball into a bucket?
Can you click a button when a light is in the right place?
Can you do this in a glass walled room pretending its Mission Impossible?

Does the room slowly fill with bugs or something?

Nolan Arenado
May 8, 2009

All of the shows I liked as a kid in the early 90s are loving terrible when I go back and watch them. Like Major Dad. The early 90s just sucked...

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

netally posted:

Scandal - started off ok then turned into gross torture porn and batshit storylines.

Yeah what the hell is with this show and "wet work"? It really romanticizes sociopaths and everything always comes back to torture and dismemberment

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

happyhippy posted:

Nah, you lot are saying LOST and BSG are poo poo just because of the ending.

And a large number of people still think that the ending of Lost meant that they were dead for the entire show, which, if true would make it significantly worse than what it actually meant. I personally think that if you ignore the entire flash sideways portion of the final season, it and the ending are... still a bit of a letdown, but adequate and nowhere near bad enough to ruin the show.

Pvt.Scott posted:

Now, some of my problem with LOST is certainly with the format. It's a weekly show, meant to advance the plot at a glacial pace and have a cliffhanger to snag viewers for next week, and I'm watching episodes mere minutes, hours or days apart. The commercial gaps are annoying as everything is slightly recapped multiple times per episode to help catch more viewers mid episode, which is just loving irritating when those recaps serve no purpose as there are no "intermissions" on DVD/streaming. Further, the show was produced right before/during binge watching poo poo became a normal pastime and turnaround on TV to DVD seasons got much shorter, meaning each episode is written slightly differently than many shows now, to refresh the audience about what they saw a week ago, not 30 seconds ago. More narrative shows today seem to kinda split the difference these days on recap, or just put it all before the episode, since fans can find recaps and discussions on Youtube and fansites, or even the show's own web or mobile site, should they feel the need. Stuff made direct for streaming or for HBO/Showtime etc just make their shows like really long movies.

So a fan or official (not financially viable) recut of LOST might make the show palatable to the few remaining troglodytes like me that kinda want to give the show a chance. In its native form though, I find the show painful to watch.

Yeah, I can definitely see how the format is offputting when compared to modern TV, but this was basically *the* show responsible for almost every show being serialized today so I don't think it should be faulted for having some outdated aspects. The second half of the series is much faster paced and better formatted for binge watching, if that helps. Also, season 1 is almost purely a character drama with the sci-fi and fantasy stuff only serving as a device to move that drama along, so I can see how, knowing there is a bunch of sci-fi and action to come, it would frustrate new viewers. IMO if you look at it purely as a character drama, it's great because it took the time to slowly familiarize the audience with the large cast rather than just "jumping in" and hoping the audience catches on.

Another thing about the first three seasons and their slower pace is, yes, there's a lot of filler, but I think people also don't get that it was trying to be both serialized and somewhat of an anthology style show at the same time.

SweetMercifulCrap! fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Jan 7, 2016

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Yeah, I grew to like the cast of Lost during season 1, so mission accomplished. Then they did nothing for half a season but yell so I stopped watching.

Luvcow
Jul 1, 2007

One day nearer spring
i loved the ending of lost

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008
Reality TV, The Mighty Boush, Tim and Eric, a bunch of other low effort garbage on Adult Swim, Two Broke Girls, but most of all...

Dr. Who.

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


Gilligan's Island is bad.

Millions of Crows
Mar 31, 2010

take a look overhead

OctoberBlues posted:

All of the shows I liked as a kid in the early 90s are loving terrible when I go back and watch them. Like Major Dad. The early 90s just sucked...

Coach still holds up. As does Married with Children.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



If you don't like Frasier then you either don't like or don't understand farce, and thus are bad and dumb.

Arkanomen
May 6, 2007

All he wants is a hug
Allen Gregory.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

Millions of Crows posted:

Coach still holds up.

Depends, the first season is dated as hell, but the 2nd-whenever he went pro aged nice, then after he goes pro it kinda felt really lovely and forced

Booblord Zagats fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jan 7, 2016

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Professor Shark posted:

Yeah what the hell is with this show and "wet work"? It really romanticizes sociopaths and everything always comes back to torture and dismemberment

So it's 24 with a priority on romance plots?

Flaccid Trip
Apr 29, 2008

Anything with Guy Fieri.

My dad watches Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives for the sole purpose of bitching about it.

Flaccid Trip fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Jan 7, 2016

Nolan Arenado
May 8, 2009

Millions of Crows posted:

Coach still holds up. As does Married with Children.

Good point, I marathoned Coach a year or so ago on Netflix and it was quite enjoyable. The pro football episodes weren't so great, but I think I watched most of them until completely losing interest sometime in the final season I believe.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Tenzarin posted:

Temors, the tv series.

If this is Tremors, hopefully the new series with Kevin Bacon and Fred Ward makes up for it.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Dare to Believe was the most god awful sketch show, that aired about 2am on ITV (the UKs trash channel, that has convinced America that it's not utter garbage because it makes Downton Abbey, which I can almost guarantee is trash without ever watching it) that probably has a subreddit dedicated to how 'before its time' it is. Every episode I saw looked like it was made with a budget of $10 by some dickhead with a handicam. When anyone ever talks about 'monkey cheese' humour, point them towards this bullshit.

Here's an episode from series 2 which looks a bit more thought out, but I'm not watching more than a second of it to see if it's any less garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJgFSqouyhs

e: fixed link.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I have dim memories of watching Real People and That's Incredible in my childhood. The terribleness of those shows probably contributed to the horrible person I eventually grew up to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_People

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_Incredible!

CaptainSarcastic fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 8, 2016

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Pvt.Scott posted:

Nope. I've tried to watch LOST(or as I call it, JACK!?!HAS ANYBODY SEEN JACK!?!) 3 times now over the years, none of those were ever while it was on the air and I knew/know nothing about the show. Sorry, It's meandering garbage full of obvious filler as the writers panic over still somehow having a story to tell every week. I made it a few episodes into season 2? on my last attempt. Attempt one was 30 minutes into the pilot and attempt 2 was maybe 3 or 4 episodes into season 1. Maybe I'll check Youtube and see if there's an abridged "all of the kinda sorta maybe interesting Dharma Initiative stuff, only not strung out over 60 hours of wet fart," collection.

Now, some of my problem with LOST is certainly with the format. It's a weekly show, meant to advance the plot at a glacial pace and have a cliffhanger to snag viewers for next week, and I'm watching episodes mere minutes, hours or days apart. The commercial gaps are annoying as everything is slightly recapped multiple times per episode to help catch more viewers mid episode, which is just loving irritating when those recaps serve no purpose as there are no "intermissions" on DVD/streaming. Further, the show was produced right before/during binge watching poo poo became a normal pastime and turnaround on TV to DVD seasons got much shorter, meaning each episode is written slightly differently than many shows now, to refresh the audience about what they saw a week ago, not 30 seconds ago. More narrative shows today seem to kinda split the difference these days on recap, or just put it all before the episode, since fans can find recaps and discussions on Youtube and fansites, or even the show's own web or mobile site, should they feel the need. Stuff made direct for streaming or for HBO/Showtime etc just make their shows like really long movies.

So a fan or official (not financially viable) recut of LOST might make the show palatable to the few remaining troglodytes like me that kinda want to give the show a chance. In its native form though, I find the show painful to watch.

I've never seen any of the BSG reboot, nor do I know any of it's plot, so maybe I can torture myself with that next time I feel like watching a TV series.

There's a difference between "worst show" and "show you like the least."

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Drunk Nerds posted:

There's a difference between "worst show" and "show you like the least."

True. I wasn't necessarily staying on topic.

I can't really pick a worst show because I haven't seen it yet. I'll find it one day. Though working a hotel front desk and having 24 hour news empty chatter spewed at me all day was close.

HungryMedusa
Apr 28, 2003


Flipper. For some reason watched it a couple months ago. Nothing ever happens and they randomly cut to dolphin footage shot in a loving pool.

For bad 90s shows The Commish. My friends liked it, but I found it beyond insufferable. I have never forgiven that bald guy for being on it.

Finally, the true winner for me now is Uncle Grandpa. I had to make my daughter leave the room with that on the ipad. Holy poo poo it's annoying. I hope it isn't killing her brain cells, but it probably is.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

EL BROMANCE posted:

Dare to Believe

Holy poo poo, I remember that.
It was ITVs answer to Reeves and Mortimer I think.

Still, infinitely better than Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy.

lol but
Feb 24, 2007

body is a dinosaur
Slippery Tilde
actually now that i think of it, its hoarders

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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HungryMedusa posted:

For bad 90s shows The Commish. My friends liked it, but I found it beyond insufferable. I have never forgiven that bald guy for being on it.

That bald guy is Vic 'The Shield' Mackie, and it makes The Commish amazing in retrospect. He did another show called Daddio which was pretty bad, but did have a scene of him playing drums in his garden to annoy his neighbour. So that's something I guess.

happyhippy posted:

Holy poo poo, I remember that.
It was ITVs answer to Reeves and Mortimer I think.

Still, infinitely better than Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy.

Even as someone who likes Noel Fielding in the right dose/environment, I avoided that like the plague. I remember his 90s stand up act when he used to be in Live at Jongleurs on (surprise, surprise) ITV and it was horrendous.

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!

CaptainSarcastic posted:

If you don't like Frasier then you either don't like or don't understand farce, and thus are bad and dumb.


lol Fraiser blows

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
How is this even a debate? "Yes Dear" is the correct answer.

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