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zoux posted:Haha so here's Abbott's plan to defeat Obama's overreach: a constitutional convention So he's saying he thinks he's better than the framers of the constitution, basically.
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ReidRansom posted:So he's saying he thinks he's better than the framers of the constitution, basically. Well, he doesn't own any slaves does he?
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Jan 8, 2016 20:53
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Mulva posted:Man the Jeffersonians still aren't over 1789 are they? You lost, get over it. No, the Articles of Confederation were a good idea! Really!
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ReidRansom posted:So he's saying he thinks he's better than the framers of the constitution, basically. Well Abbott isn't but it's not like it's a hard bar to jump over
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Jan 8, 2016 20:53
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Antti posted:No, the Articles of Confederation were a good idea! Really! I love arguing with people like this because I get to quote GDub talking about how much they sucked. 
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Jan 8, 2016 20:56
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fishmech posted:Interesting and irrelevant. They're actually extremely stupid. Could you clarify what your actual argument is? As far as I can tell, it's "farm animals are too stupid to be affected by their environmental conditions so therefore hunting is crueler than farming" which is patently false on top of making no sense.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Could you clarify what your actual argument is? As far as I can tell, it's "farm animals are too stupid to be affected by their environmental conditions so therefore hunting is crueler than farming" which is patently false on top of making no sense. You've got to be pretty hosed up if you think shooting an animal and waiting for it to die as you continue to pursue it is less cruel than "some animals spend a lot of time indoors".
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Jan 8, 2016 20:58
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Fishmech's just an idiot contrarian who says idiot contrarian things because he eats attention for food. The next time the hunting debate comes up he's just as likely to take the opposite tack.
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Jan 8, 2016 20:59
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zoux posted:Well, he doesn't own any slaves does he? Residents of the TDCJ might disagree with you on that.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:01
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Fishmech's just an idiot contrarian who says idiot contrarian things because he eats attention for food. The next time the hunting debate comes up he's just as likely to take the opposite tack. It's nice that you think this, but isn't close to true.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:01
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Jan 8, 2016 21:03
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SedanChair posted:For the same reason you and I should have them, until none of us can have them. I don't like the idea of breaking people down into groups and incrementally depriving the members of those groups of rights depending on how unpopular they are. Give it up, nobody's going to let the Black Panthers or any other minority arm themselves enough to cause change, and your misguided advocacy is only playing into the hands of the racists and hicks who caused the horrible situation the Panthers try to solve.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:05
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An Angry Bug posted:Give it up, nobody's going to let the Black Panthers or any other minority arm themselves enough to cause change, and your misguided advocacy is only playing into the hands of the racists and hicks who caused the horrible situation the Panthers try to solve. Is it? I'm not afraid of racists as long as we all get to have guns.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:08
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haveblue posted:He was also using a stolen police handgun. This is gonna be a mess. If only we had laws against stealing police firearms and shooting people, this never would've happened.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:09
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zoux posted:Haha so here's Abbott's plan to defeat Obama's overreach: a constitutional convention Just secede from the US and get the Civil War II over with already goddamn.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:09
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Mulva posted:Also being in bed with the extreme conservative Zionist movement? He does own at that. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 21:11
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Fishmech's just an idiot contrarian who says idiot contrarian things because he eats attention for food. The next time the hunting debate comes up he's just as likely to take the opposite tack. He's also correct a lot of the time.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:11
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Just secede from the US and get the Civil War II over with already goddamn. They've tried a couple of times. First one got unanimously disavowed as a false flag, the second one is currently pleading for snacks over facebook.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:12
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SedanChair posted:Is it? I'm not afraid of racists as long as we all get to have guns. ah yes "an armed society is a polite society" 
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Jan 8, 2016 21:12
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Trabisnikof posted:ah yes "an armed society is a polite society" Oh it's not polite, at all. I'm not talking about detente, I'm talking about having some kind of redress when yokel haram finally starts roaming the streets like janjaweed.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:15
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Fishmech is still sore that he once got outsmarted by a chicken.zoux posted:-Require a seven-justice super-majority vote for U.S. Supreme Court decisions that invalidate a democratically enacted law So Abbott both supports the ACA and thinks the VRA shouldn't have been changed. Oh wait, he used the "democratically" wildcard. Congress only counts when he wants them to. Noam Chomsky posted:He's also correct a lot of the time. Let's not say anything we can't take back.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:16
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SedanChair posted:Oh it's not polite, at all. I'm not talking about detente, I'm talking about having some kind of redress when yokel haram finally starts roaming the streets like janjaweed. Yeah, better make sure that mentally ill people with delusions of importance and advocating violence against our nation has guns, because if we don't then we might not have guns when the mentally ill people with delusions of importance attack us with guns! The logic is inescapable! Also lol at the idea that open carry has helped black people stop racism, rather than the reality which is ownership of an expensive killing tool/hobby toy by whites gets used to silently intimidate the disadvantaged all the loving time Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 21:17
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fishmech posted:You've got to be pretty hosed up if you think shooting an animal and waiting for it to die as you continue to pursue it is less cruel than "some animals spend a lot of time indoors". So you actually have no clue of what you're talking about then. Like, you legitimately don't know anything about behavioral ecology, or factory farms, or animal welfare practices/metrics, or hunting, or even basic biology, it seems, but you're gonna keep on truckin' anyway. Noam Chomsky posted:He's also correct a lot of the time. Not about this.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:18
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fishmech is often correct but not talking about anything that anyone else is talking about all while declaring he is.
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I applaud the people arguing with fishmech. Keep it up, he's so close to changing his mind and admitting he was wrong. You can do it.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:20
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zoux posted:-Prohibit congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one state. This is already sort of a thing.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:20
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Electric Bugaloo posted:So you actually have no clue of what you're talking about then. Factory farm is a scare term used by the morons. They'll call anything that isn't their special snowflake vision of an organic farm a factory farm. You're hosed up in the head if you think actively terrorizing an animal after you shoot it once or multiple times is less cruel than the horrors of maybe being in a barn for a while like the typical  factory farm.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:21
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And these days relies heavily upon ignoring how things can and do cross state lines.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:22
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Trabisnikof posted:ah yes "an armed society is a polite society" How is this supposed to work in practice, exactly? Someone doesn't say "Bless you" when I sneeze and I open one side of my jacket to reveal my sidearm and they remember? Someone uses the wrong fork and I point my pistol at them until they put it down and reference the copy of Emily Post they've got on them at all times? Someone makes an off-color joke and I put two in their gut so they know not to do it again if they survive? Some kid wears his backwards baseball hat, belt-less baggy pants, and untucked shirt indoors, and we escort him at gunpoint to the outskirts of town and tell him not to be seen in town after sundown or else?
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Taerkar posted:And these days relies heavily upon ignoring how things can and do cross state lines. I mean, we got legal weed from it, so whatever.
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Toph Bei Fong posted:How is this supposed to work in practice, exactly? Someone doesn't say "Bless you" when I sneeze and I open one side of my jacket to reveal my sidearm and they remember? Someone uses the wrong fork and I point my pistol at them until they put it down and reference the copy of Emily Post they've got on them at all times? Someone makes an off-color joke and I put two in their gut so they know not to do it again if they survive? You'll be nicer to people if they have the capacity to execute you on a whim.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:24
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I applaud the people arguing with fishmech. Keep it up, he's so close to changing his mind and admitting he was wrong. You can do it. So what you're saying is that he's a cat batting us around until we bleed out or have a heart attack?
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Generally such people tend to believe that everyone else thinks like them so if they would shoot someone else for a perceived crime then obviously they can be shot for the same reason. See also: "Without Jesus people would act in an immoral manner (because I would)" computer parts posted:I mean, we got legal weed from it, so whatever. Never said there aren't upsides but you know these places would be using it to oppress the gently caress out of undesirables.
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fishmech posted:Factory farm is a scare term used by the morons. They'll call anything that isn't their special snowflake vision of an organic farm a factory farm. You're hosed up in the head if you think actively terrorizing an animal after you shoot it once or multiple times is less cruel than the horrors of maybe being in a barn for a while like the typical See guys if you had just said Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation instead this could have all been avoided!
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Jan 8, 2016 21:25
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computer parts posted:This is already sort of a thing. I believe people trying to assert that were the ones that George loving Washington went back into the field to kill.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:25
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Trabisnikof posted:See guys if you had just said Concentrated Animal Feeding Operation instead this could have all been avoided! You making up a different term that also doesn't apply to the vast majority of farms doesn't change things. Hope this helps!
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sotu-box-empty-seat-gun-violence Insert Clint Eastwood joke here.
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fishmech posted:Factory farm is a scare term used by the morons. They'll call anything that isn't their special snowflake vision of an organic farm a factory farm. You're hosed up in the head if you think actively terrorizing an animal after you shoot it once or multiple times is less cruel than the horrors of maybe being in a barn for a while like the typical  This is literally not at all how modern farming works, oh my god, I don't even know where to begin......
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