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Rinkles posted:(nobody liked my sinkhole edit :[ ) You forgot the ring!
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Foreskin Problems posted:You forgot the ring! Dammit!
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Jan 8, 2016 20:38
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Dr. Clockwork posted:You think this is a $50 card? I think it sold out in a lot of places and people still want it so increasing in price is perfectly reasonable
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Jan 8, 2016 20:46
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For those who haven't watched it, LSV's latest Cube draft is hilarious. He loses round 1 in 11 minutes. 
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Jan 8, 2016 20:47
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This seems very unblue
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Jan 8, 2016 20:50
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Rinkles posted:This seems very unblue well untapping is blue but yeah it's more a white card to me, its one of those bends they do to support the themes of the set
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Jan 8, 2016 20:53
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Rinkles posted:This seems very unblue I know what you mean. It has Jace showing some humility.
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Jan 8, 2016 20:56
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Support is so bad.
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Jan 8, 2016 20:59
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There don't seem to be many surge cards beyond what was already spoiled. Bit of a letdown
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mandatory lesbian posted:well untapping is blue but yeah it's more a white card to me, its one of those bends they do to support the themes of the set It basically acknowledges being a white card in the flavor text, too
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Jan 8, 2016 21:02
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Rinkles posted:(nobody liked my sinkhole edit :[ ) I didn't even notice the edit. Like most of the art in this set, the art was already pretty rear end.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:04
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We've done it. We've reached a point where Shock is too strong for standard.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:11
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Lottery of Babylon posted:We've done it. We've reached a point where Shock is too strong for standard. Also, we didn't get the other half of the cycle of lands. Again.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:18
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It's more that common removal continues to be bad, really.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:19
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Count Bleck posted:Also, we didn't get the other half of the cycle of lands. Again. Mana would be too good in Standard. It's already too good.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:20
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were just regressing until we hit the power level of Legends limited. Standard 2019 = 4x Sivitri Scarzam auto include
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Jan 8, 2016 21:21
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Lottery of Babylon posted:We've done it. We've reached a point where Shock is too strong for standard. This isn't even like the second time we've not had R 2 damage. Not counting the part where we currently have R 2 damage and do not know if one will be in SoI or not.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:23
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Count Bleck posted:Also, we didn't get the other half of the cycle of lands. Again. They might do the same thing they did last time and finish the cycle in Innistrad
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Jan 8, 2016 21:23
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Lottery of Babylon posted:We've done it. We've reached a point where Shock is too strong for standard. Shock with an upside is currently in standard. Maybe I'm alone in this but I like lower power levels in standard. The fewer Siege Rhinos and Mantis Riders around the better. I like games being a little durdley and less swingy, and lower average power level seems to lead to gameplay decisions, deck construction and player skill being bigger determinant factors than just "turn 4 Siege Rhino turn 5 Siege Rhino oops I win".
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Jan 8, 2016 21:26
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mcmagic posted:Mana would be too good in Standard. It's already too good. It would certainly make the decks that would like to play dumb go go bullshit like Abzan Blue better. If you're gonna do something as retarded as make mana good, go full retard and make it good for all combinations. stinkles1112 posted:Shock with an upside is currently in standard. You have high hopes for Searing Spear, don't you. Also, Abzan is still going to exist after OGW comes out. Nothing has changed, you're still going to lose to the Double Rhino. Count Bleck fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 21:26
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stinkles1112 posted:Maybe I'm alone in this but I like lower power levels in standard. You're the loving worst and may the outliers trample and drain you for 3 until the end of your days
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Jan 8, 2016 21:31
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TheKingofSprings posted:You're the loving worst and may the outliers trample and drain you for 3 until the end of your days
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Jan 8, 2016 21:35
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I was looking at some old videos the other day, and it was crazy seeing lightning bolt and path side-by-side in standard.
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stinkles1112 posted:Maybe I'm alone in this but I like lower power levels in standard. The fewer Siege Rhinos and Mantis Riders around the better. I like games being a little durdley and less swingy, and lower average power level seems to lead to gameplay decisions, deck construction and player skill being bigger determinant factors than just "turn 4 Siege Rhino turn 5 Siege Rhino oops I win". Amen to this, maybe they could bring back 4 mana wraths too while we have pipe dreams of not siege rhinos.
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I personally prefer that my rotating formats to not rotate at all for any reason so I can keep playing the same variety of standard forever. Especially if it blanks all creatures with three or less toughness.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:43
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Consuming Sinkhole is really confusing to me. It may have been marginal in BFZ draft since some decks had a lot of awaken spells, but here it just makes no sense. I guess some decks wouldn't mind playing a slightly smaller instant speed lava axe?
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Jan 8, 2016 21:45
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Ramos posted:I personally prefer that my rotating formats to not rotate at all for any reason so I can keep playing the same variety of standard forever. Especially if it blanks all creatures with three or less toughness. What format can't run creatures with three or less toughness?
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Rinkles posted:I was looking at some old videos the other day, and it was crazy seeing lightning bolt and path side-by-side in standard. Followed by Jace, Stoneforge, Batterskull, Fetches, Preordain, and Bolt. So basically Legacy.
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stinkles1112 posted:Shock with an upside is currently in standard. Overall lower power levels would be fine, but creatures continue to get better and spells keep getting nerfed. Rhino and Mantis Rider would be fine if we still had Bolt/Doom Blade/Mana Leak/Day of Judgement, but instead we have lovely spells that cant handle things efficiently which makes everybody just play their own pushed creatures and smash em into each other.
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stinkles1112 posted:Shock with an upside is currently in standard. It's about to rotate, and since we've already lost Lightning Strike, Elvish Mystic, and 4-mana Wraths, we can hardly be sure of its return. stinkles1112 posted:Maybe I'm alone in this but I like lower power levels in standard. The fewer Siege Rhinos and Mantis Riders around the better. I like games being a little durdley and less swingy, and lower average power level seems to lead to gameplay decisions, deck construction and player skill being bigger determinant factors than just "turn 4 Siege Rhino turn 5 Siege Rhino oops I win". Cutting a bunch of perennial utility cards while continuing to print powerful turn 4 haymaker creatures makes the game revolve more around those haymakers, not less.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Consuming Sinkhole is really confusing to me. It may have been marginal in BFZ draft since some decks had a lot of awaken spells, but here it just makes no sense. I guess some decks wouldn't mind playing a slightly smaller instant speed lava axe? There's a lot of tools for a RDW-esque archetype, so maybe it fits in there. There's also a lot of "turn this land into a creature" effects even if they don't use the awaken keyword. I think the card has some potential in aggressive red decks. It's a lava axe that can also lock an opponent out of the game if they stumble on mana.
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"This game revolves too much around overly pushed creatures, let's solve the problem by getting rid of cards that can remove overly pushed creatures"
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AlternateNu posted:For those who haven't watched it, LSV's latest Cube draft is hilarious. He loses round 1 in 11 minutes.
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Eldrazi Ramp is a hilarious deck to pilot and its going to be a lot more hilarious when Kozilek and his Return are around so that Infinite Obliteration stops ruining your good time.
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I want to make kruphix eldrazi.
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magic sucked when spells were overpowered and creatures sucked. just fyi for everyone that started playing in the last decade
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We're at leasting getting Grasp of Darkness, Immolating Glare and the colorless cards as new 2 mana removal options in this set. I kindof like the 1 mana dehydration as well but I don't know if that's just too narrow to be playable.
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born on a buy you posted:magic sucked when spells were overpowered and creatures sucked. just fyi for everyone that started playing in the last decade actually magic ruled when you got to cast cool spells, also when synergy and other cool things got to happen and you had to make decisions instead of just windmill slamming down bodies on curve to turn sideways forever lol if you never got to play cool decks like tinker, or blue green madness, just lol
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Ciprian Maricon posted:actually magic ruled when you got to cast cool spells, also when synergy and other cool things got to happen and you had to make decisions instead of just windmill slamming down bodies on curve to turn sideways forever Unban Survival.
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born on a buy you posted:magic sucked when spells were overpowered and creatures sucked. just fyi for everyone that started playing in the last decade There's plenty of room between Necropotence and Ironroot Treefolk, and 1RRR: deal one damage to target planeswalker.
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