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Suikoden Tactics was good
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Play Super Robot Wars.
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Jan 8, 2016 00:01
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I'm playing Fire Emblem for the first time now and so far I'd say I prefer a lot of things in Tactics over it. The only things I like more in FE are the pretty pictures, battle speed, and items.
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Jan 8, 2016 01:21
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umm the animation?
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Jan 8, 2016 10:42
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I would love if FF/Orge Tactics had FE's cool battle animations.
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Jan 8, 2016 11:12
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I prefer Tactics because it doesn't end turns when I attack. It's so loving simple, why does no other strategy game do that right?
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Jan 8, 2016 18:19
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Coughing Hobo posted:I prefer Tactics because it doesn't end turns when I attack. It's so loving simple, why does no other strategy game do that right? Hmm? Plenty do. Devil Survivors especially does this because there are skills that let you attack twice or move after attacking.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:22
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Coughing Hobo posted:I prefer Tactics because it doesn't end turns when I attack. It's so loving simple, why does no other strategy game do that right? I'm pretty sure FE has an option to turn off Auto-Ending turns
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Jan 8, 2016 18:23
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The thing is that FE and FFT require completely different styles of tactics and put emphasis on much different aspects of strategy. Like, FE is all about positioning and managing counterattacks; because of the way the mechanics work (what with auto-countering and such), the vast majority of combat actually happens on the enemy phase, and the idea is that you want to position your units in such a way that you funnel the right enemies to the right player units. FFT, on the other hand, is completely about the individual unit. Each one can be individually tweaked to go through different classes, learn different skills and abilities, you have brave and faith numbers to manipulate, strengths and weaknesses to different elements, etc, etc. FE sort of has aspects like this (especially in the more recent ones), but in general it doesn't really care about any individual unit. In addition, in FFT your actual position on the board generally doesn't matter as much as long as you don't turn your back to the enemy, or you're not at a huge height disadvantage (both of which are things that FE does away entirely for the most part, incidentally), especially once you start introducing stuff like Calculators and summons. I'm not saying they can't be compared, but they don't have much in common beyond "is an SRPG" so it's kinda weird to act like one is definitively superior to the other.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:01
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Meanwhile, I'm getting into FFIV. First off, the ability to save anywhere feels pretty good, if not awkward. Secondly, is it me or was MIDI common on SNES? And thirdly, does C/Kain's Jump or Decil's Dark Wave cost anything besides time?
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Jan 8, 2016 19:22
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what else was the snes going to use for music besides midi exactly
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Jan 8, 2016 20:29
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Clearly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_60V8UdYEY Shame about not having any space for a game to go with 1m of music though!  Also Cecil's Dark Wave attack consumes some HP. Jump just burns some time but you can avoid some damage while he's in the air.
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Jan 8, 2016 20:50
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Jump may seem pointless but it can save your butt in a few later battles. And yeah, Dark Wave drains HP, so don't be too reckless with it.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:00
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So basically be reckless with Jump and try not to Dark Wave too much. Got it.bloodychill posted:Jump may seem pointless but it can save your butt in a few later battles. And yeah, Dark Wave drains HP, so don't be too reckless with it. Doesn't Jump do more damage than a regular attack?
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Jan 8, 2016 21:39
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widespread posted:Doesn't Jump do more damage than a regular attack? It does, but I'm not sure if it does more damage considering jump takes a little more time than regular attacks.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:49
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Fire Emblem has ruined other strategy games for me because they're just so drat quick compared to anything else. Any other one I've tried just feels like a huge slog by comparison.Coughing Hobo posted:I prefer Tactics because it doesn't end turns when I attack. It's so loving simple, why does no other strategy game do that right? I think Advance Wars is the only other strategy game I've seen that does end their turn after they attack. mandatory lesbian posted:I'm pretty sure FE has an option to turn off Auto-Ending turns I assume they were talking about any specific unit, attacking with a non-mounted unit will end their turn.
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Jan 8, 2016 22:49
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FE needs a "reset battle" option or at least a load-save option. That was probably the most frustrating aspect of Awakening while I was still low on the learning curve. "Great, half my guys are dead and I need to manually quit and restart the game to restart the battle." Just needlessly frustrating.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:20
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It's been a long time since I played it so I don't remember if Awakening has it but most (3)DS games have a soft reset if you hold L + R + Start + Select
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Jan 8, 2016 23:22
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bloodychill posted:FE needs a "reset battle" option or at least a load-save option. That was probably the most frustrating aspect of Awakening while I was still low on the learning curve. "Great, half my guys are dead and I need to manually quit and restart the game to restart the battle." Just needlessly frustrating. You can insta restart by holding L+R+Start IIRC.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:22
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ImpAtom posted:You can insta restart by holding L+R+Start IIRC. This does work but it's still a lot slower than doing some variation of Menu -> System -> Restart Battle like a lot of games have.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:25
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bloodychill posted:FE needs a "reset battle" option or at least a load-save option. That was probably the most frustrating aspect of Awakening while I was still low on the learning curve. "Great, half my guys are dead and I need to manually quit and restart the game to restart the battle." Just needlessly frustrating. The GBA games are much better in this regard. Awakening is still quick and all, but there are hangups like this that make it a little more annoying.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:26
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bloodychill posted:This does work but it's still a lot slower than doing variation of Menu -> System -> Restart Battle like a lot of games have. I mean the point of perma death and auto saving was that you just lived with the hand that got dealt to you
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Jan 8, 2016 23:26
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Erg posted:I mean the point of perma death and auto saving was that you just lived with the hand that got dealt to you In a game where a large mechanic and story section deals with the children your people spawn, "living with the hand that got dealt to you" was missing out a lot of the game. So, no, I reset that poo poo.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:29
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bloodychill posted:In a game where a large mechanic and story section deals with the children your people spawn, "living with the hand that got dealt to you" was missing out a lot of the game. So, no, I reset that poo poo. Why not play on Casual then? (or whatever the 'no-permadeath' mode is, I forget.)
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Jan 8, 2016 23:30
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Erg posted:I mean the point of perma death and auto saving was that you just lived with the hand that got dealt to you I don't know anybody who doesn't just reset when they lose a character in fire emblem unless they are doing a specific ironman run or something.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:31
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I just put it on no permadeath because I didn't want to reset 40 times for one map
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Jan 8, 2016 23:31
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Andrast posted:I don't know anybody who doesn't just reset when they lose a character in fire emblem unless they are doing a specific ironman run or something. Even the devs do it, so it's not like they didn't design it around the idea.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:32
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ImpAtom posted:Why not play on Casual then? (or whatever the 'no-permadeath' mode is, I forget.) I think that would change your playstyle a lot/make things easy if your dudes were basically expendable
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Jan 8, 2016 23:32
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ImpAtom posted:Why not play on Casual then? (or whatever the 'no-permadeath' mode is, I forget.) The risk of having to reset still affects how you play. With no permadeath you can suicide units into enemies to kill them. Even if you reset after deaths, you still need to be careful during the actual gameplay.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:32
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bloodychill posted:In a game where a large mechanic and story section deals with the children your people spawn, "living with the hand that got dealt to you" was missing out a lot of the game. So, no, I reset that poo poo. Then don't play with perma death on? I mean I've done the same thing in older games, but they've got a mode that lets you ignore that now Unless it's more of a personal achievement thing to play in classic mode. In which case I guess I understand
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Jan 8, 2016 23:32
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Erg posted:Unless it's more of a personal achievement thing to play in classic mode. In which case I guess I understand It's this and as others said, it's more challenging to play in a way to try to keep everyone alive, which I enjoyed. I've heard a nice compromise is playing Casual/Impossible but I'm not sure I'm up to it.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:35
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bloodychill posted:It's this and as others said, it's more challenging to play in a way to try to keep everyone alive, which I enjoyed. I've heard a nice compromise is playing Casual/Impossible but I'm not sure I'm up to it. Haha, I tried casual/Hard and realized it was zero fun for me and just went back to classic/normal I get what you're saying about changing the way you play then
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Jan 8, 2016 23:37
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There is a fundamental difference between playing on Classic and resetting and playing on Casual: The former could be basically read as "Add defeat condition: any unit dies".
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Jan 8, 2016 23:45
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keep the fire emblem casuals in the final fantasy thread where they belong
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Jan 9, 2016 00:28
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Seems there's a possibility that the Final Fantasy Adventure/Sword of Mana remake may not be released on Vita in English countries. This really cheeses me off, it it's true. It's the one game I've been waiting for still slated for Vita. What a waste. I can't blame them too much due to Sony's treatment of the system, but it just drives the needle in further.
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Jan 9, 2016 01:52
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On the bright side, it's a Mana game released after 2000 so it's probably going to suck anyway? It's not like their last attempt at remaking FFA was that good to begin with. e: Haha, just watched that video and they didn't even acknowledge Sword of Mana existed. Don't blame them.
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Jan 9, 2016 01:56
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Since the mobile version was probably the base and the Vita just a port, since it would be a lot easier to do it that way around, I doubt we're missing out on much anyway.
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Jan 9, 2016 02:04
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Why is there a guide for Final Fantasy 13 Hallway Simulator
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Jan 9, 2016 18:53
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Literally The Worst posted:Why is there a guide for Final Fantasy 13 Hallway Simulator cause every big budget game has a guide, dickeye i wouldn't mind an FF13 artbook, it is a really pretty game, sometimes i used to buy guides just cause they had pretty art
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Literally The Worst posted:Why is there a guide for Final Fantasy 13 Hallway Simulator Because it actually has a lot of things that theoretically need a guide such as boss strategies and a large relatively open area?
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