|
Well homies got ear holes at least. About as close as you could get to following the flayed man imagery and represent something like that. So your speculation is at least pointed in the right direction, it seems.
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2016 07:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 21:02 |
|
|
ZZZorcerer posted:It's been a really long time but isn't SK implied to be the king of a big kingdom that existed before and that everybody was sacrificed by Void that was probably some kind of counselor from said king ? I barely remember this stuff, maybe I need to re-read the series. Parts of the old kingdom are at the bottom of the tower that Griffith was tortured or something Didn't Slann straight up call SK Gaiseric?
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2016 17:55
|
|
|
IronicDongz posted:I would speculate that in the same vein of having a big weird brain to be better at weird spacetime magic or whatever the gently caress it is he does, he wanted to remove his earthly senses, hence the sewn shut eyes, removed nose and hosed up mouth, but then again homies still got ears so I think their bodies are mostly symbolic. Void has no problem speaking without moving his mouth, and all of them seem perfectly able to manipulate objects and people's senses with just magic.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2016 18:44
|
|
|
Did they actually say they choose their new forms? Because the few Apostle transformations we've seen come off a lot more like ironic punishments. Griffith gets melded to the helm he was tortured in, the gluttonous (baron? count?) gets turned into a giant slug, and Ganishka, whose life was defined by constant loneliness and terror despite his power, turned into a mass of countless, mindless faces.
Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 7, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2016 18:54
|
|
|
Tuxedo Catfish posted:Did they actually say they choose their new forms? Because the few Apostle transformations we've seen come off a lot more like ironic punishments. Griffith gets melded to the helm he was tortured in, the gluttonous (baron? count?) gets turned into a giant slug, and Ganishka, whose life was defined by constant loneliness and terror despite his power, turned into a mass of countless, mindless faces. In the lost chapter (83), Griffith does specifically ask to have wings, so they seem to have at least some control over their new forms. Of course, he's also a God Hand, not just an apostle.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2016 19:21
|
|
|
I think the anime has a line about griffith choosing his new form. I think there is a line in the manga about the apostles are made stronger to overcome their weakness, so their forms are reflection of their desire. Its ironic because, you know, people become the thing they hate. Except Zodd, he sleeps like a champ at night.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2016 19:47
|
|
|
Rodyle posted:Didn't Slann straight up call SK Gaiseric? She calls him Your Highness (dunno what the exact wording is in the original). Given that there is a previously established skull-helmet-wearing king in Midland who fell foul of the God Hand, and it was Gaiseric, it's pretty safe assumption that they're one and the same, but it has not ever been made explicit that he is Gaiseric.
|
|
#
?
Jan 7, 2016 22:22
|
|
|
ZZZorcerer posted:It's been a really long time but isn't SK implied to be the king of a big kingdom that existed before and that everybody was sacrificed by Void that was probably some kind of counselor from said king ? I barely remember this stuff, maybe I need to re-read the series. Parts of the old kingdom are at the bottom of the tower that Griffith was tortured or something Close. Gaiseric apparently threw the man who became Void into the Tower of Conviction and tortured him while "he implored God to punish the crimes of the king, until finally some angels appeared."
|
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 02:06
|
|
|
Bro Dad posted:Close. Gaiseric apparently threw the man who became Void into the Tower of Conviction and tortured him while "he implored God to punish the crimes of the king, until finally some angels appeared." That's part of the reason people think that it's him. He has some sort of connection with Void and the only reason that would be is if he was Gaiseric. There's also the fact that Gaiseric wore a skull helmet. And Slan calls him "your majesty". The only way it could be more confirmed is if someone yelled "Gaiseric!" and he turned to look.
|
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 07:55
|
|
|
ZZZorcerer posted:It's been a really long time but isn't SK implied to be the king of a big kingdom that existed before and that everybody was sacrificed by Void that was probably some kind of counselor from said king ? I barely remember this stuff, maybe I need to re-read the series. Parts of the old kingdom are at the bottom of the tower that Griffith was tortured or something yea 
|
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 20:16
|
|
|
With no God Hand to help explain things, that first Eclipse must've been so confusing for the person who became Void.
|
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 21:06
|
|
|
temple posted:I think the anime has a line about griffith choosing his new form. I think there is a line in the manga about the apostles are made stronger to overcome their weakness, so their forms are reflection of their desire. Its ironic because, you know, people become the thing they hate. Except Zodd, he sleeps like a champ at night. Zodd is like Boros from one punch man. He wanted to become the strongest but failed to realise that the fun was not in winning itself, but the struggle. So now he searches the world for a someone who can make him feel alive again. Hense why he waits outside for Skull Knight during the eclipse instead of joining the party with everybody else.
|
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 21:58
|
|
|
U-DO Burger posted:With no God Hand to help explain things, that first Eclipse must've been so confusing for the person who became Void. I'm fairly certain the implication is they've been around a lot longer than that, they just lose and replace members from time to time.
|
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 22:41
|
|
|
Pensive posted:Zodd is like Boros from one punch man. He wanted to become the strongest but failed to realise that the fun was not in winning itself, but the struggle. So now he searches the world for a someone who can make him feel alive again. Hense why he waits outside for Skull Knight during the eclipse instead of joining the party with everybody else. if he wants to feel alive he should stop using his cheat mode every time things get slightly difficult..
|
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 22:54
|
|
|
Tuxedo Catfish posted:I'm fairly certain the implication is they've been around a lot longer than that, they just lose and replace members from time to time. My take on it is that the angels of the godhand simply exist outside of time, so at his ceremony Femto, Slan, Ubik and Konrad would have all been present. They are omniscient to some degree and the eclipse is specifically mentioned as a time that they are not, perhaps because only then they are incomplete or because they momentarily exist in the physical realm and are restricted to that specific time. Piriwi fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jan 8, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jan 8, 2016 23:02
|
|
|
U-DO Burger posted:With no God Hand to help explain things, that first Eclipse must've been so confusing for the person who became Void. maybe the eclipse became what it is because of his inner desire to punish those around him. every other eclipse is just the others adding on to his
|
|
#
?
Jan 9, 2016 00:08
|
|
|
There's still the Idea of Evil there to explain things to new God Hand members.
|
|
#
?
Jan 9, 2016 00:59
|
|
|
Piriwi posted:My take on it is that the angels of the godhand simply exist outside of time, so at his ceremony Femto, Slan, Ubik and Konrad would have all been present. They are omniscient to some degree and the eclipse is specifically mentioned as a time that they are not, perhaps because only then they are incomplete or because they momentarily exist in the physical realm and are restricted to that specific time. I like that explanation.
|
|
#
?
Jan 9, 2016 01:02
|
|
|
Tuxedo Catfish posted:I like that explanation. One reason I think it could be the case is that berserk, like more manga, has this fusion between Buddhist and Christian ideas going on. In both religions the idea of omniscience has been debated, and in Christianity more specifically how an omniscient god might affect free will. All the godhand angels often talk about causality and they even refer to Guts as the struggler, struggling like a fish in a stream he can't escape. And there is that scene where Femto uses the attack of the Skull Knight on Ganishka to fulfill his dream. In Christianity Jesus is often described as having a pre-existence as part of the trinity (and Griffith is basically 'the Savior'). In Buddhism there is also the concept of a future Buddha already existing as a higher being and having 'contact' with humans now, even though he will be born as a human in the future as part of his cycle of reincarnation.
|
|
#
?
Jan 9, 2016 09:23
|
|
|
Meanwhile you have Guts and his "If it bleeds, I can make it bleed A LOT" outlook on life.
|
|
#
?
Jan 9, 2016 17:05
|
|
t
|
Literally Kermit posted:Meanwhile you have Guts and his "If it bleeds, I can make it bleed A LOT" outlook on life. Guts is the absurd hero. 
|
|
#
?
Jan 9, 2016 17:50
|
|
|
Tuxedo Catfish posted:Did they actually say they choose their new forms? Because the few Apostle transformations we've seen come off a lot more like ironic punishments. Griffith gets melded to the helm he was tortured in, the gluttonous (baron? count?) gets turned into a giant slug, and Ganishka, whose life was defined by constant loneliness and terror despite his power, turned into a mass of countless, mindless faces. I always assumed the Apostle transformations were tied to what and/or how much you sacrificed, like the deeper your connection to the sacrifice or the more you sacrifice then the better your Apostle form becomes. Which is why guys like the Count look majorly hosed up compared to the more powerful Apostles like Zodd and Gunbled.
|
|
#
?
Jan 9, 2016 19:01
|
|
|
The new Berserk anime is confirmed as a tv series, it will start airing in July.
|
|
#
?
Feb 4, 2016 14:47
|
|
|
Please be good in spite of looking like poo poo
|
|
#
?
Feb 4, 2016 15:16
|
|
|
Butt Ghost posted:Please be good in spite of looking like poo poo 
|
|
#
?
Feb 5, 2016 00:57
|
|
|
I'll still watch it.
|
|
#
?
Feb 5, 2016 01:07
|
|
|
An unjust world where the gorgeous art of berserk is animated in the least appropriate way.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2016 20:38
|
|
|
The best time to animate Berserk would have been the mid 80s when Japan's economy was booming and traditional animator's skills were at their peak, and online piracy wasn't a thing yet. Sadly, Berserk didn't come out at that point. We'd need a robotic army of Mitsuo Iso-bots to give us Berserk animated like it should be. Until that comes to pass, I'll take the CG version.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 01:25
|
|
|
DamnGlitch posted:An unjust world where the gorgeous art of berserk is animated in the least appropriate way. On the other hand, traditional animation has been in the shitter for a while, since there is now so goddamn much anime being made that only the biggest budget shows get halfway decent animation, and even then there's tons of corner cutting on details. Like, people praised One Punch Man for it's gorgeous animation, but you break that show down and you can still spot the more budget conscious action scenes where it's just blurs that represent people or still frames with lots of detail instead of movement. CGI, at the very least, will be really detailed. How it looks in motion, though... well, at least it'll be detailed.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 01:41
|
|
|
the thing about animation in comparison to still pictures is, the motion is quite important
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 01:57
|
|
|
Anime sucks, Berserk needs to be a videogame. That is the only medium in which something that's so violent and fantastic could get the budget it deserves.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 03:15
|
|
|
Butt Ghost posted:Please be good in spite of looking like poo poo welp, what do we have to sacrifice
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 03:30
|
|
|
notZaar posted:Anime sucks, Berserk needs to be a videogame. That is the only medium in which something that's so violent and fantastic could get the budget it deserves. bloodborne........
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 06:06
|
|
|
scary ghost dog posted:bloodborne........ The whole Souls series, really.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 06:17
|
|
|
This same argument of Dark Souls vs Dragons' Dogma. Mobs vs literally pre-eclipse Griffiths armour and Guts' armour.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 10:36
|
|
|
Having licensed Berserk DLC is cheating.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 10:54
|
|
|
It's not in the PC version I don't think Also notZaar posted:Anime sucks GTFO
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 10:58
|
|
|
Sakurazuka posted:It's not in the PC version I don't think It's not. It was kept out for licensing reasons, or something along those lines.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 11:42
|
|
|
Liquid Dinosaur posted:The whole Souls series, really. None of those games have good combat, though they nail the atmosphere of a world similar to Berserk.
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 13:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 21:02 |
|
|
notZaar posted:None of those games have good combat 
|
|
#
?
Feb 10, 2016 13:26
|
|