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Wild T posted:All the nerds on Wookiepedia are probably writing essays the length of Master's theses explaining everything in the new movie and I just want to know how BB8 gets back up the stairs every time. Remember the grappling hooks she shot out during the Falcon bit?
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Xenoletum posted:Remember the grappling hooks she shot out during the Falcon bit?
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Jan 8, 2016 15:02
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Xenoletum posted:Remember the grappling hooks she shot out during the Falcon bit? That, and if the little guy can generate enough torque in that ball, he could get up the stairs by counterbalancing his head forward or something. Or maybe he has a springball like Samus.
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Jan 8, 2016 15:03
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He bomb-jumps, clearly.
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Jan 8, 2016 15:50
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Very small, very short range jump drive.
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Jan 8, 2016 16:29
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Krispy Kareem posted:Does range matter with a blaster? Obviously there are some differences. Recoil would probably be less on a long barrel. But I don't think barrel size would matter for distance aiming. Yes, just for simple geometry. If you are off by one degree at 5 feet you hit your target because it's 4 inches off. If your target is 30 feet away you hit the tree next to them.
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Also blasts travel incredibly slow in Star Wars so hitting a moving target at a distance is difficult too. This Wired article I googled calculated the speeds to average about 78mph. I guess they probably don't have any drop, but you need to lead your shots pretty far. In Battlefront and the Clone Wars cartoon, the long range rifles they use shoot actual bullets. Force Awakened wouldn't have happened if Poe had a gun.
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Jan 8, 2016 17:16
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Aphrodite posted:Also blasts travel incredibly slow in Star Wars so hitting a moving target at a distance is difficult too. This Wired article I googled calculated the speeds to average about 78mph. I guess they probably don't have any drop, but you need to lead your shots pretty far. Is the assumption then that stormtrooper armor at least stops actual bullets? (Note that I'm going out on a limb and assuming the ewok arrows were hitting them in the neck or other uncovered places. I badly hope this is the case because otherwise the armor makes zero loving sense).
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Jan 8, 2016 17:21
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Pook Good Mook posted:Is the assumption then that stormtrooper armor at least stops actual bullets? (Note that I'm going out on a limb and assuming the ewok arrows were hitting them in the neck or other uncovered places. I badly hope this is the case because otherwise the armor makes zero loving sense). The armor is so bad guys don't look too human so you don't have to worry about how they feel or what their motivations are.
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Found this from a visual dictionary release:quote:Shielded in white space armor worn over a body glove, stormtroopers are protected from harsh environments, projectile and impact weapons and glancing blaster bolts... Stormtrooper armor is impervious to projectile weapons and blast shrapnel. It may be pierced by a direct blaster bolt, but will deflect glancing bolts and reduce damage from bolts absorbed... A power pack and pressurized gas system in the stormtrooper armor backplate also allows a trooper to survive even in the vacuum of space for limited periods..." Of course that's not true in Return of the Jedi, but whatever. I always assumed the idea is just that no mass producible armor* can stop a blaster, but the Stormtrooper armor does a bunch of other useful stuff so that's why they still wear it. And it's probably effective psychologically. * (always have to leave the door open for some author's special snowflake character with their anti-blaster, anti-lightsaber armor)
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Jan 8, 2016 17:33
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Novum posted:I liked the no name rank and file stormtrooper who beat the poo poo out of the black jedi Aphrodite posted:Please. This is Star Wars, he has a name and comic book backstory. http://www.starwars.com/news/meet-fn-2199-a-k-a-tr-8r-the-stormtrooper-behind-the-meme
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In RotJ, I don't think Ewok arrows could pierce armor. I remember seeing a stormtrooper with one sticking out the gap in his neck. Not sure about rocks. The armor should have protected pretty well against them, but I guess we don't know how freakishly strong Ewoks were. I will say those scenes could have really benefited from a better sound effects foley guy. Small rocks hitting plastic armor sounded exactly like small rocks hitting plastic armor. Are you supposed to bleed from a blaster hit? I guess I always assumed it cauterized the wound like a light saber. That scene early in TFA where a stormtrooper is very obliviously bleeding makes me think of all those dead and dying stormtroopers with blood pooling inside their white armor. So while they don't offer much protection, they make post-battlefield clean-up a whole lot cleaner. Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 17:46 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Jan 8, 2016 17:42
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You can configure a blaster to cause bleeding. Like most things that was probably thought up to cover inconsistencies.
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Jan 8, 2016 17:49
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Aphrodite posted:Please. This is Star Wars, he has a name and comic book backstory. He's also played by the same guy who played Arya's fencing master on Game of Thrones, I gather.
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Jan 8, 2016 21:25
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Nothing in Star Wars is subtle. Even the part where they make sure you weren't in a coma the last 30 years and know that the guy who plays Han Solo also played Indiana Jones by having a rolling ball monster chase him through a tunnel
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Jan 8, 2016 22:59
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Star Wars TFA gets way more criticism than a children's movie should ever get
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Jan 8, 2016 23:11
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Professor Shark posted:Star Wars TFA gets way more criticism than a children's movie should ever get Mmm, yes, the most profitable movie in history is a children's movie and therefore above the criticism, mmm yes.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:26
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Pook Good Mook posted:Is the assumption then that stormtrooper armor at least stops actual bullets? (Note that I'm going out on a limb and assuming the ewok arrows were hitting them in the neck or other uncovered places. I badly hope this is the case because otherwise the armor makes zero loving sense). I seem to recall you only seeing one Stormtrooper killed by arrows and it was a scout trooper (lighter armor) hit in the back of the neck.
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Jan 9, 2016 00:12
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Ferrule posted:Nothing in Star Wars is subtle. Even the part where they make sure you weren't in a coma the last 30 years and know that the guy who plays Han Solo also played Indiana Jones by having a rolling ball monster chase him through a tunnel  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM1fUM0pvf0
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1stGear posted:Mmm, yes, the most profitable movie in history is a children's movie and therefore above the criticism, mmm yes. Yeah, that, only without the dumbass Mmm's. If you spend a lot of time criticizing minor details in a children's movie that was designed in part to sell toys then you may be sort of dumb 
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Jan 9, 2016 00:36
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Professor Shark posted:Yeah, that, only without the dumbass Mmm's. If you spend a lot of time criticizing minor details in a children's movie that was designed in part to sell toys then you may be sort of dumb That's kind of a juvenile interpretation of the movie, isn't it? Or is it just cool to not like the popular thing
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Jan 9, 2016 00:49
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Polaron posted:I seem to recall you only seeing one Stormtrooper killed by arrows and it was a scout trooper (lighter armor) hit in the back of the neck. You might be right. In fact isn't a big part of that whole battle that the Ewoks are getting pretty much annihilated until they can spring their traps? Yes, I realize that is the most childish thing I've ever written Like I said, it makes me feel better about this foolish universe I've invested so much time into if it's at least a LITTLE bit coherent.
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Jan 9, 2016 00:55
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Nostradingus posted:That's kind of a juvenile interpretation of the movie, isn't it? Or is it just cool to not like the popular thing I liked Star Wars, it was a good kids movie and it made Kid Me want to buy some toys for my nephews It was made in order to make more money from tickets and merchandise though
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Jan 9, 2016 01:00
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There's something about the entire motion picture industry that you're not going to want to hear.
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Avatar was a children's movie.
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Professor Shark posted:I liked Star Wars, it was a good kids movie and it made Kid Me want to buy some toys for my nephews drat those filmmakers, trying to sell tickets  Even the indie-est of indie directors wants to at least make their money back.
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Jan 9, 2016 01:28
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Yeah Yeah to everything, yeah to movie makers wanting to sell tickets, yeah to the toy companies wanting to sell toys based on those movies (if they're kids movies), and yeah to Avatar being a kids movie (that had kids toys)
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Jan 9, 2016 01:38
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Kids movies, pssh. I'm more interested in adult films, if you know what I'm talking about. (Stares intently at crotch)
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oldpainless posted:(Stares intently at crotch) Yeah but Star Wars makes people happy
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Pook Good Mook posted:You might be right. The Rebels are losing until Chewie and friends hijack an AT-ST and take some of the pressure off.
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Jan 9, 2016 01:48
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1stGear posted:Mmm, yes, the most profitable movie in history is a children's movie and therefore above the criticism, mmm yes. the most profitable movie in history is either Blair witch or paranormal activity 1
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Professor Shark posted:I liked Star Wars, it was a good kids movie and it made Kid Me want to buy some toys for my nephews Haha you are a lovely troll or an actual dumbfuck Even taking your Movie For Literal Children premise at face value, why in the flying gently caress should media designed to be consumed by developing youths not be subject to the most criticism?
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Trent posted:Haha you are a lovely troll or an actual dumbfuck Because lol gently caress you we're talking about laser bolts you loving idiot
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Jan 9, 2016 03:14
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Pfft, he called them lasers. What a nerd.
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Jan 9, 2016 03:15
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A film appropriate for the whole family and a film written specifically for children are not the same thing.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:38
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There were action figures for Alien and the Predator movies. Clearly children's films. Come little Timmy, let's watch the movie where the penis-headed alien rapes its way through a bunch of spacemans/womens, Professor Shark has dictated that it's a children movie. scary ghost dog posted:the most profitable movie in history is either Blair witch or paranormal activity 1 Yeah, true. Movie that made the most money then.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:40
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Hardly subtle at all, but I did like in Force Awakens how just before Ren kills Han, the extinguishing sun causes his face to become shadowed, visually indicating the choice Han just helped him make and how it's the exact opposite of what the dialogue would seem to imply on a basic presented level. Also this is purely a personal thing and hence might not qualify at all, but I did like how in the final battle that the minor character pilots did better than in New Hope. From thirty fighters launched in New Hope and three coming back (and hell, you could say just two because one was flown by the main character whose plot armor was invincible), to around the same amount of ships launched and seven survivors! Maybe in 2033 when Episode X comes out, they can make it up to a 1/3 survival rate.
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1stGear posted:There were action figures for Alien and the Predator movies. Clearly children's films. I'm sure Fox didn't want their R rated movies being watched by kids and when those movies were out everyone I knew when I was a kid watched them and played with the toys that they made for children who shouldn't have been watching them 
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I think this all started because I called Star Wars a children's movie
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Professor Shark posted:I think this all started because I called Star Wars a children's movie You're right
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