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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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Mr Interweb posted:And since we're on the subject, why does Goku not use it anymore after he turns SSJ? I always figured (though I don't think it was ever confirmed) that for whatever reason, SSJ prevents any further power multipliers. He uses it once in the anime, against Paikuhan. The Super Kaio-ken is then never used again. Considering how Kaio-ken is taxing on the body, it might simply be too much for Goku to hold both Super Saiyan and Kaio-ken at once, even at the basic level, and he then finds better ways to use his powers (Full Power Super Saiyan, then Super Saiyan 2 and 3), so a simple power boost with heavy drawbacks becomes unneccesary. Or Toriyama might've just forgotten. That's more likely. Yorkshire Tea posted:Oh and I recall in Kai that it's explicitly stated by Piccolo in his fight with 20 that all the Z-Warriors can hilariously spike their power levels when they need to, which definitely implies that they all figured out Kaioken. Piccolo indeed says that. Goku is the first to show it, then they get the same ability. Rather than having their power at max all the time, they're able to only power up for impacts then go back to normal, thus using exactly as much Ki as needed. In the fight against Freeza, Goku's shown doing it with the Kaio-ken x10 (hence why the red aura is not shown, since it flares up for less than a second before disappearing), so it might be the same thing there, but it is never stated.
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Jan 8, 2016 15:21
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I always assumed that Cell could freely move where his core was located so that unless you utterly destroy ALL of him, he'd be okay. I've been under that impression...forever, basically. Did I just make that up? Also, I was under the impression that Kaioken was basically impossible for humans due to the strain on the body. You'd need a saiyan's fortitude to withstand it. Piccolo probably could have learned it if he bothered to do anything but meditate for the week he was there. That's my "headcanon" anyway.
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Jan 8, 2016 16:07
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Piccolo using kaio-ken sounds dumb. Piccolo is too cool to rely on Goku's superpower sloppy seconds to stay relevant, and should only get unique Namek powerups.
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Jan 8, 2016 16:33
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Stairmaster posted:I remember reading an essay on daizenshu ex comparing the saiyan saga to the pacific front in ww2 and the namek saga to the european one. I think this essay is something I need in my life now.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:49
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SexyBrianPuppet posted:Piccolo using kaio-ken sounds dumb. Piccolo is too cool to rely on Goku's superpower sloppy seconds to stay relevant, and should only get unique Namek powerups. Relying on sloppy superpower seconds is a time-honored Dragonball tradition. Goku's iconic moves are all something someone else came up with.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:53
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Raxivace posted:I think this essay is something I need in my life now. Freeza is Germany because he was like evil and stuff and then at the end of the war he was split in half and transformed into a Soviet mechanical being. it fits.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:58
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ImpAtom posted:Relying on sloppy superpower seconds is a time-honored Dragonball tradition. Goku's iconic moves are all something someone else came up with. That's why vegeta's the best he makes up all his own moves. He's no plagiarist  .
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Jan 8, 2016 19:00
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ImpAtom posted:Relying on sloppy superpower seconds is a time-honored Dragonball tradition. Goku's iconic moves are all something someone else came up with. The best part is that even the one move he SORTA made himself, the Super Kamehameha, which kind of got forgotten after Dragon Ball, was taught to him by Popo.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:01
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Burkion posted:The best part is that even the one move he SORTA made himself, the Super Kamehameha, which kind of got forgotten after Dragon Ball, was taught to him by Popo. No, the Super Kamehameha still gets used.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:05
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Monaghan posted:That's why vegeta's the best he makes up all his own moves. He's no plagiarist Vegeta only has one move though: impotent rage beam, it just turns up in different guises through the series
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Jan 8, 2016 19:07
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Hey now cut him some slack, one of them is a ball and the other is a giant explosion
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Jan 8, 2016 19:09
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Plus everyone else just cracks up when they try and use Big Bang Attack.
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Jan 8, 2016 19:37
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Vegeta's true signature move is spamming little energy balls though. All the rest are used a grand total of once during the manga, with the anime giving them a bit more of spotlight. Spamming energy balls is eternal and used all the time, with no effect whatsoever, a true fit for Vegeta.
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Jan 9, 2016 03:09
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Honestly, how many techniques are used more than once outside of anime filler? I can only think of the Kikoho and most of Goku's moves.
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Jan 9, 2016 03:15
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Destructo Disk comes out a few times. Hell even Cell uses Frieza's variation of it once. There's Tri-Beam as well.
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Jan 9, 2016 03:19
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Solar Flare? Wolf Fang Fist? Edit: tribeam is Kikoho.
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Jan 9, 2016 03:22
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didn't gohan have some signature move as a kid that he forgot post frieza? I wanna say it's called masenko or something, and I could swear he uses it more than once
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Jan 9, 2016 03:23
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One interesting thing about Dragon Ball is that, with like ONE exception, their big finishing moves never actually finish anything. It's pretty much a running gag that the Spirit Bomb can't kill anything. Buu is killed by a combo of stuff, Freeza is taken out ultimately by Trunks slice and dice and then a generic energy blast, and earlier got taken out by his own attacks and Goku's generic energy blast, and Vegeta went through a whole congo line of beat downs, needing to be utterly crushed by giant naked Gohan to be put out of the fight. Cell is like the only guy who actually gets killed by a Kamehameha beam struggle.
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Jan 9, 2016 03:26
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Reinanigans posted:I always assumed that Cell could freely move where his core was located so that unless you utterly destroy ALL of him, he'd be okay. I've been under that impression...forever, basically. Did I just make that up? You might be thinking of the Z dub which got around the "how did Cell survive without a head when the Nucleus in his head is what lets him regenerate?" plothole by saying that Cell can always regenerate so long as a single cell of him survives. Of course, this all arrives at the problem that Namekian regen, unlike Buu's, has a tremendous ki/energy cost. There's really no way Cell should be able to do it but who loving cares, Super Perfect Cell was awesome and had good music.
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Jan 9, 2016 03:28
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Raxivace posted:Destructo Disk comes out a few times. Hell even Cell uses Frieza's variation of it once. Yeah but Frieza, Vegeta, and Cell each only use it once. Does Krillin ever use it again after the Saiyan saga?
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Jan 9, 2016 03:44
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Cuts Freeza's tail with it
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Jan 9, 2016 03:45
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Manatee Cannon posted:didn't gohan have some signature move as a kid that he forgot post frieza? Masenko is a Piccolo technique (thus the name.)
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Jan 9, 2016 03:51
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the question was "what techniques get used more than once" so that's irrelevant unless you mean it's not his signature move because he didn't come up with it, in which case I guess goku doesn't have one at all since everything he does is learned from someone else
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Jan 9, 2016 03:59
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Burkion posted:One interesting thing about Dragon Ball is that, with like ONE exception, their big finishing moves never actually finish anything. It's pretty much a running gag that the Spirit Bomb can't kill anything. Idk what you watched, but both buu and omega shenron are killed by the spirit bomb.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:03
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Namtab posted:Idk what you watched, but both buu and omega shenron are killed by the spirit bomb. how many years after the spirit bomb's first inclusion in the comic did it finally get a kill on buu
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Jan 9, 2016 04:15
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The movies like to use the Spirit Bomb a lot, don't they? Toei must really like it.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:19
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setafd posted:how many years after the spirit bomb's first inclusion in the comic did it finally get a kill on buu It didn't even kill Buu. It made him reincarnate as a good person. That's the exact opposite of death. The Spirit Bomb is such a lovely power that it has literally negative one deaths
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Jan 9, 2016 04:24
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Burkion posted:It didn't even kill Buu. You have to die before you reincarnated. Therefore it killed buu
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Jan 9, 2016 04:31
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Burkion posted:It didn't even kill Buu. do you not understand how reincarnation works or what
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Jan 9, 2016 04:32
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By your logic, the special beam cannon also has no kills, because goku didn't stay dead.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:32
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Fine- it has absolutely Zero kills in canon. Because it literally undoes the singular death it deals. It's the most self defeating attack in history.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:36
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Namtab posted:By your logic, the special beam cannon also has no kills, because goku didn't stay dead. Once again everyone forgets about Raditz.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:36
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How do we know Raditz was dead? Did he ever actually show up in the afterlife? Did a trained medical professional ever confirm that he was dead?!!???!!!! HMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!?????????
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Jan 9, 2016 04:38
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Burkion posted:Fine- it has absolutely Zero kills in canon. the spirit bomb doesn't bring anyone back to life, what are you talking about like I don't understand how you even came to this conclusion, but it's wrong
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Jan 9, 2016 04:38
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The King wrestled him so yeah.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:39
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Dragon Ball Z: Return R look forward to it
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Jan 9, 2016 04:39
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Manatee Cannon posted:the spirit bomb doesn't bring anyone back to life, what are you talking about Buu Uub
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Jan 9, 2016 04:40
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The bomb has nothing to do with him coming back so that makes no sense.
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Jan 9, 2016 04:41
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CharlestheHammer posted:The King wrestled him so yeah. Yenma was clearly lying! because he had no proof! Perhaps he's being paid to keep quiet by Capsule Corp, who have captured the alive Raditz to genetically engineer their own army of biowarrior clone Saiyans... I'm telling you guys, Prince Vegeta, who is married to the heir of the Capsule Corporation, is rebuilding his Saiyan army. NONE OF YOU FOOLS ARE LISTENING TO THE TRUTH!
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Jan 9, 2016 04:42
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Burkion posted:Buu The Spirit Bomb isn't what brought him back to life. He was reborn from the wish Goku made as Buu died.
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