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Honestly, I haven't had too much of an issue grinding for relic stuff (besides the crystals). A4 groups go super fast, and additionally, usually half the people leave after killing the boss and don't roll on loot, so it's a great way to gear alternates. A3 takes a bit longer to queue and once in awhile you'll get someone terrible (there was a ninja named Imgonna Killyouall who was doing awful DPS and kept standing in the sleuces and dying). I need to unlock higher level beast tribe stuff since I only have kobolds, but overall if the goal was to get people to run older content, they did a good job of it.
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Belzac posted:What Vandes said and also cause the monk one is like 1.3 STR higher than the dip one. It's, uh, like .07 strength higher? Unless you get your stat weights from very different places? (I usually follow along with Dervy.)
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Is the old relic easy enough now to justify doing it and skipping the beginning of the new relic? I'm not near the point where I should work on the relic but I know I'll want the old one for the glamour anyway, I just don't know how much of a time investment it is vs. doing the new relic first.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:38
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dromal phrenia posted:Is the old relic easy enough now to justify doing it and skipping the beginning of the new relic? I'm not near the point where I should work on the relic but I know I'll want the old one for the glamour anyway, I just don't know how much of a time investment it is vs. doing the new relic first. If you were about halfway done with the old one I'd say finish it. If you're starting fresh it is absolutely not worth the time/effort over the crystal collecting.
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Jan 8, 2016 18:46
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dromal phrenia posted:Is the old relic easy enough now to justify doing it and skipping the beginning of the new relic? I'm not near the point where I should work on the relic but I know I'll want the old one for the glamour anyway, I just don't know how much of a time investment it is vs. doing the new relic first. It depends on what stage you want to get it to. They buffed drops for everything, but it still takes a decent amount of time to get atma drops from all locations.
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dromal phrenia posted:Is the old relic easy enough now to justify doing it and skipping the beginning of the new relic? I'm not near the point where I should work on the relic but I know I'll want the old one for the glamour anyway, I just don't know how much of a time investment it is vs. doing the new relic first. Even after all the nerfs, the old relic chain will still take you much, much longer than just doing the atma part of the new relic. Only do the old one of you are interested in the glam.
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Belzac posted:What Vandes said and also cause the monk one is like 1.3 STR higher than the dip one. Do you have a full set of amazingly statted Diadem gear yet?
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If you want the old relic for glamour anyway, you may want to consider doing double-duty and taking that route. You can (and should) still start collecting your unidentifiable blahblahs before you get to the part of the new relic that asks for them.
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Speaking of glamour, is there a website that has all the gearsets to show which each one looks like? Like, this: But for every potential set. I'm mainly thinking about Heavensward 51-59 dungeons if I want to grab any of the sets for a particular class. I'm not too particularly thrilled with the Dragoon crafted sets.
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Jan 8, 2016 20:52
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There is still a benefit to completing an old relic beyond glamour. Assuming you want to complete a Zeta. If you work on it along side an anima weapon, you can use your zeta when it's finished as a coupon for skipping the crystal farm on a future anima weapon. Since the zeta trade ins aren't tied to specific weapon types(Ex: Trade in Excalibur and Aegis for the first White Mage step,) it could be useful for future proofing another class you might decide to level.
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Jan 8, 2016 23:26
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FaintlyQuaint posted:It's, uh, like .07 strength higher? I just quoted Flares. No one has let me raid on monk in months  .
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Jan 8, 2016 23:59
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Holyshoot posted:Don't you have a4s 210 weapon? Why bother with relic? Or are you one of the jobs whose sub stats are better on the relic? I always find this idea great because at least on my server the overlap between the guys who finished relic in the first week and people who are farming a4s was almost total. It's just another hardcore option.
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You also find a lot more free time to actually play casual relic stuff when you only raid 1 hour a week.
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I have a Bravura at Nexus state right now, but I don't think I can justify spending 400k + random stupid HQ crafting items, doing something like 12-16 dungeons, spending the Poetics for Spring Water (instead of the new relics), and 80k Serpent Seals for Ragnarok. Then getting it to Ragnarok Zeta with a billion trials. Those two steps alone are worse than gathering 18 Crystals, in my opinion.
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The Grimace posted:I have a Bravura at Nexus state right now, but I don't think I can justify spending 400k + random stupid HQ crafting items, doing something like 12-16 dungeons, spending the Poetics for Spring Water (instead of the new relics), and 80k Serpent Seals for Ragnarok. Then getting it to Ragnarok Zeta with a billion trials. Those two steps alone are worse than gathering 18 Crystals, in my opinion. Two things. First, 1600 poetics is not much, it's barely two tokens. Second, going from Ragnarok to Ragnarok Zeta takes maybe an hour of running unsynched Sastasha/Tam-Tara. Less if there's a bonus on one.
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kafziel posted:Two things. First, 1600 poetics is not much, it's barely two tokens. Second, going from Ragnarok to Ragnarok Zeta takes maybe an hour of running unsynched Sastasha/Tam-Tara. Less if there's a bonus on one. It still only skips the crystal grind, which can be done while leveling other classes as long as you have the quest for any relic's crystals in your log. Unless you're really far along into your old relic it won't be worth it, especially if you have to drop a bunch of money to do it. You can even go back after turning in the astral/umbral and tell the guy you want to make another of the same relic and he'll let you, which you can keep in your quest log forever so that you'll always get crystals while doing any fates in ishgard.
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Basically if you haven't already done the Zodiac Books, don't bother with the old Relic chain. Even then, the Alex stage can be rough, though if you spend Tomes on maps it goes pretty fast. Then it's just a matter of grinding dungeons and spending a ton of gil.
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Jan 9, 2016 17:57
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I haven't seen the FATE for the holiday event pop anywhere yet. I want my monkey hat!
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Leofish posted:I haven't seen the FATE for the holiday event pop anywhere yet. I want my monkey hat! you have to talk to an NPC to start it, and the NPC isn't visible on the map unless you're real close.
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Griz posted:you have to talk to an NPC to start it, and the NPC isn't visible on the map unless you're real close. If you want fast easy directions, the npc is right outside the pier in central shroud that you can get to from leaving the lavender beds.
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Jan 9, 2016 20:59
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Griz posted:you have to talk to an NPC to start it, and the NPC isn't visible on the map unless you're real close. Skaw posted:If you want fast easy directions, the npc is right outside the pier in central shroud that you can get to from leaving the lavender beds. Aha! Thanks to both of you!
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Skaw posted:If you want fast easy directions, the npc is right outside the pier in central shroud that you can get to from leaving the lavender beds. In Thanalan, he's just outside Drybone southish near the little oasis refuge camp (that has a single tent and no actual refugee NPCs.)
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Back and still playing. Took a vacation, so I'm only level 7, but I did manage to get into the game. It seems like a fun ride. I decided to go with a Marauder so I could become Thief-y as soon as possible. I picked a cat dude in honor of the thread. Question, is there a way to display an arrow or Bat Signal or something to point me towards quests I specifically want to follow? I know you can view them on the map, but that's not as useful as it might seem when you're not very good at things. It'd be great if I could just have a little arrow around my character that points in the way I want to go.
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The mini-map tracks objective locations when you're in the same zone as one. Outside of that, I can't really think of anything else besides the main map.
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Worked my way up to lvl 30 & Warrior. I got the impression this will be great when I'm tanking but running around day to day having all the oddball skills from the random classes I picked up seem more useful for idle questing. This right or am I missing something? Meanwhile CUL is at 35 because I keep getting suckered into company turn ins lol
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LethalGeek posted:Worked my way up to lvl 30 & Warrior. I got the impression this will be great when I'm tanking but running around day to day having all the oddball skills from the random classes I picked up seem more useful for idle questing. This right or am I missing something? 10% damage/healing boost for the job stone. It'll pay off more when you start seeing job-specific equipment.
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LethalGeek posted:Worked my way up to lvl 30 & Warrior. I got the impression this will be great when I'm tanking but running around day to day having all the oddball skills from the random classes I picked up seem more useful for idle questing. This right or am I missing something? Honestly, as someone who has all 3 tanks at level 60, Warrior isn't all that terribly exciting except for all the damage they do thanks to Fell Cleave(and a few other things, but that's the main thing), which is an ability you won't get until 54 or 56 or whenever it is. But you should still always equip the job stone just for the stat buffs if nothing else. goldjas fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Jan 10, 2016 |
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As you level Warrior you'll gain plenty of abilities to make up for the ones you've lost.
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I also wanted to ask how cosmetics work. Can you do the thing where you get the bonus from an item, but you can look however you please like DC Universe Online? I didn't see the option for it, but I also haven't navigated the HUD to its fullest extent. Cats don't wear eyepatches.
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You can re-dye dyeable gear at level 15 and project another item's appearance onto gear once you hit level 50 once.
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SonicRulez posted:I also wanted to ask how cosmetics work. Can you do the thing where you get the bonus from an item, but you can look however you please like DC Universe Online? I didn't see the option for it, but I also haven't navigated the HUD to its fullest extent. Cats don't wear eyepatches. At the very least you can turn your headhear on or off by clicking the little hat button on the character screen. It's at the bottom underneath your where you equip all your gear.
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/visor is also a command that exists. It raises or lowers the "visor" on various helmets, but is not strictly limited to heavy armor. For example, it turns the veil on/off for the AST AF hat. I believe that it also turns the eyepatch on/off for pirate hats with eyepatches, too.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:/visor is also a command that exists. It raises or lowers the "visor" on various helmets, but is not strictly limited to heavy armor. For example, it turns the veil on/off for the AST AF hat. I believe that it also turns the eyepatch on/off for pirate hats with eyepatches, too. 
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The Chairman posted:You can re-dye dyeable gear at level 15 and project another item's appearance onto gear once you hit level 50 once. This also extends to 'invisible' gear so you can indeed run around in your skivvies despite actually being in full plate armour. However, there are no invisible necklaces, earrings, rings or shields.
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ApplesandOranges posted:However, there are no invisible necklaces, earrings, rings or shields. Yes, there are. Not shields, I don't think, but certainly jewelry.
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ApplesandOranges posted:This also extends to 'invisible' gear so you can indeed run around in your skivvies despite actually being in full plate armour. http://xivdb.com/item/9293/The+Emperor%27s+New+Earrings and etc.
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Huh, my bad then. Still, XIV is actually decent at making somewhat okay looking gear. Though I do wish quest reward gear early on wasn't in the worst colours.
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Yeah, a lot of the leveling gear is decidedly not terrible. Somewhat boring and repetitive at times, but it's not awful. Once you do the quest to unlock dyes, the colour problem goes away for a handful of gil each time. The only things I really don't like are the shields that are just a few planks of wood nailed together. Also, you can get some really nice looking stuff from the first dungeon, and that's pretty cool.
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Visor has tons of little applications, like swiveling the monocle on the SCH Eso top hat or even hiding the Rudolf nose on the holiday reindeer antler set. More common than you might think.
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SonicRulez posted:Question, is there a way to display an arrow or Bat Signal or something to point me towards quests I specifically want to follow? No, and thank loving god for it. That's one of the worst aspects of modern game design. "Well, let's assume the player is an idiot and can't read or navigate."
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