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Kaubocks posted:This has been bugging me for a while and maybe you can answer this for me since you're more knowledgeable about Borderlands than I am: Well, I'm assuming Jack got his promotion (to the chagrin of the highers up) when his little gamble on opening the first vault paid off and Hyperion got access to a nice little alien laser eye thingy. He still wasn't too trusted, as the Pre-Sequel has us believing. As for Moxxi, the woman's probably been on planet for a long time. She's way smarter than we give her credit for, not to mention having the ingrained Hodunk mechanical aptitude. Just bear in mind Moxxi was trying to sabotage Jack's laser, not help him, so her solution for "shutting down" the laser was bound to have collateral damage.
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Mokinokaro posted:I now have the hilarious visual of the kidnapper being Sasha riding on Vaughn's shoulders Oh yeah i changed my opinion on Masked Stranger being August. Now i think it's probably Grease Face. Remember that guy? No? The dude with the cleaver, selling like, burning rats or something? Yeah, he got a name intro and everything. He seems "subdued" enough (and important enough thanks to his intro) to be in that suit.
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Jan 9, 2016 21:03
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Trusting Jack would be a very very bad idea, so let's Trust Jack! Because it wouldn't be Borderlands without bad ideas.
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Jan 9, 2016 21:05
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Fiona's had our back. She's a dick, but she's had our back. We know from the way the story is set up that we both make it through this, so that doesn't factor in. What does interest me is that Rhys' eye isn't the blue Sharingan dealie in the "present" which makes me hesitant to trust Jack. Beyond that, I don't think it makes practical sense to let Jack even deeper into our minds. I say we Trust Fiona at least until we're given a reason not to. Handsome Jack is a dick and hasn't bothered to hide that from us. If we weren't his lifeboat, he'd shiv us in a second. I totally believe his plan has no regard for Sasha or Vaughn.
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Jan 9, 2016 22:21
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Trust Fiona. She saved Rhys' boot for him. She didn't have to do it. She had no reason to believe Rhys and Vaughn survived. But she saved him that boot, just in case he made it. That, my friends, is someone you can trust.
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Jan 9, 2016 23:06
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So far, we're at 29 votes to Trust Fiona, and 26 votes to Trust Jack. There's also this vote: Krysmphoenix posted:Nothing against you Fiona, but Holy poo poo do not trust Jack And this vote: Touraxus posted:Trust Jack. (And for anyone else tallying them up, don't forget to catch this vote from Cangelosi that you'll miss if you just try to Ctrl+F "Trust Jack")
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Jan 10, 2016 00:29
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Captain Bravo posted:Which I think is saying to trust Fiona, but isn't 100% clear? The binary nature of this question means I'm voting to trust Fiona.
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Jan 10, 2016 02:44
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Jack already told us a lie. We can't trust someone like that. Trust Fiona, because she at least gave us our shoe when we asked for it.
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Jan 10, 2016 04:49
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IAmTheRad posted:Jack already told us a lie. We can't trust someone like that. Not that I want to go with Jack, but if lies are your reason, hoo boy are you forgetting a bunch about Fiona
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Jan 10, 2016 04:54
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Fiona lying is what got us into this whole mess. Fiona is literally a professional liar.
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Jan 10, 2016 06:48
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Waffleman_ posted:Fiona lying is what got us into this whole mess. Yeah, but one of these liars is literally in Rhys's head and has been shown to have partial control over him at times. He kinda gets held to higher standards because of it.
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Jan 10, 2016 07:21
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Waffleman_ posted:Fiona lying is what got us into this whole mess. Who, right now, wants exactly what we want: to get out of here alive, without anyone getting killed. Which means that she has incentive to tell lies that will benefit us. Whereas Jack has already admitted that his ideas will probably get someone killed. Maybe Sasha, maybe Vaughn, maybe both.
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Jan 10, 2016 07:50
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If you wanna make an omelet, you gotta kill a few people.
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Jan 10, 2016 07:52
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So far the entire story of borderlands 2 and (especially) pre-sequel is that pissing jack off just makes him hurt you more cruelly. I mean, if you want to take that risk feel free but Rhys is already one of the damned. We're just deciding how damned he is.
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Jan 10, 2016 08:02
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Trust Jack, and stay in the pattern of making everything go downhill!
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Jan 10, 2016 08:24
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Trust Jack, I'm sure absolutely nothing will go wrong with this course of action  .
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Jan 10, 2016 08:33
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I like that pretty much every vote is either "trust Fiona because trusting Jack is a terrible idea" or "trust Jack because trusting Jack is a terrible idea".
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Jan 10, 2016 08:36
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I'm on the side of "trust Jack because he's the worst of two evils".
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Jan 10, 2016 08:51
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Trust Jack because while it is a terrible idea, it is an amusing terrible idea.
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Jan 10, 2016 09:03
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whowhatwhere posted:So far the entire story of borderlands 2 and (especially) pre-sequel is that pissing jack off just makes him hurt you more cruelly. I mean, if you want to take that risk feel free but Rhys is already one of the damned. We're just deciding how damned he is. Alright, you sold me. Trust Jack because Rhys is already hosed in that regard anyway, might as well make it as spectacular as possible.
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Jan 10, 2016 09:21
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Kaubocks posted:I like that pretty much every vote is either "trust Fiona because trusting Jack is a terrible idea" or "trust Jack because trusting Jack is a terrible idea".
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Jan 10, 2016 09:23
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geonetix posted:Trust Jack, and stay in the pattern of making everything go downhill! But that breaks the other pattern we've been in, which is sticking together with each other. We chose to go to... whatever the town is called, where Fiona was, so we could stick together as a team. We chose to trust Vaughn. So why break that pattern? I mean, things are going to go downhill no matter what... but I want to see what happens when we stick to the pattern we've been on so far, rather than changing horses mid-stream. Trusting Fiona is the pattern we've been on; trusting Jack is changing horses mid-stream.
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Jan 10, 2016 10:07
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People, people, please. I feel that there has been some wildly misplaced doubt thrown at our closest ally. Tell me please tell me, who was it that swindled us out of a veritable fortune with insidious lies and fabrications? Not Jack. Who ruined our very livelihood and left us stranded on a planet of death and chaos? Not Jack. Who held us at gunpoint debating whether or not to leave our bullet-ridden corpse in some dark alley? Not Jack. Who left us to die in the desert with barely a thought about our well-being? Not Jack. But... BUT! Who single-handily saved us from our blood-thirsty rival? Jack. Who has been an inspiration and a motivation to us for our entire lives? Jack. Who gave us the morel support to stand up to said rival and insult his lovely hair? Jack. Who has a real solid plan to prevent the very possible death of our lifelong friend? Jack. And finally, who are we going to trust in our hour of need? That's right Jack. He's got our back. Also our arm, but details.
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Jan 10, 2016 11:14
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Trust Fiona Jack may or may not have already lied to us with regard to the Wallethead thing, since Vasquez absolutely showed no signs of recognition of the nickname allegedly given to him by the most important figure in his life. Also, even if you think that the control can be reverted, there's few things scarier than the idea of watching your body do horrific things without your express control, and a relatively clean death by either a gun-toting robot or a grenade is not one of them. There's no reward that could justify that kind of risk.
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Jan 10, 2016 11:39
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Kytrarewn posted:Jack may or may not have already lied to us with regard to the Wallethead thing, since Vasquez absolutely showed no signs of recognition of the nickname allegedly given to him by the most important figure in his life.
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Jan 10, 2016 11:46
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Trust Fiona Jack might hurt loader bot with control over those robots!  We can't let that happen.
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Jan 10, 2016 13:02
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whowhatwhere posted:So far the entire story of borderlands 2 and (especially) pre-sequel is that pissing jack off just makes him hurt you more cruelly. I mean, if you want to take that risk feel free but Rhys is already one of the damned. We're just deciding how damned he is. Yup, Jack merely wanted to kill you in Borderlands 2, but when Angel went down, it became 100% personal and he flew off the deep end and became utterly deranged.
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Jan 10, 2016 13:55
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Trust Fiona For christshake, lets not trust the man with a kill count in the millions, possibly billions.
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Jan 10, 2016 16:00
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Klaus88 posted:Trust Fiona Stands to reason we can trust him with murder, then. 
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Jan 10, 2016 16:13
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Kaubocks posted:I like that pretty much every vote is either "trust Fiona because trusting Jack is a terrible idea" or "trust Jack because trusting Jack is a terrible idea". Trust Jack because he does terrible things to people who stand against him and he has control of Rhys' robo arm either way.
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Jan 10, 2016 16:16
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For God's sake, Trust Fiona
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Jan 10, 2016 18:04
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I like the fact that at the same time Panzer's LP was having it's closest to date binary vote so too was this one. Life Is Strange ultimately ended the way I wanted, this one though is making me video game nervous.
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Jan 10, 2016 19:09
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Tax Refund posted:Trusting Fiona is the pattern we've been on; trusting Jack is changing horses mid-stream. Well, okay. Sure. However, disregarding consistency and in an half assed attempt to justify my choice, he's under a lot of stress right now and somebody Rhys is obsessed with greatly offers him *really* cool hacking stuff! It will undoubtably go sideways either choice, but likely the most downhilliest if we trust jack.
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Jan 10, 2016 19:31
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geonetix posted:It will undoubtably go sideways either choice, but likely the most downhilliest if we trust jack.
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anilEhilated posted:Another reason to go with him. It'll end in a fuckup either way, but this one should be funny. Trust Fiona because Jack is a crazy person with crazy person ideas and whatever his plan is probably won't help us once we leave this area while Fiona's will likely take us a little further.
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Fwoderwick posted:Life Is Strange ultimately ended the way I wanted, this one though is making me video game nervous. Both options end in an amazing sequence here.
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Jan 10, 2016 20:27
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Trust Jack because Rhys is the kinda guy who makes poor life choices.
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Jan 10, 2016 22:47
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Trust Jack, because, whatever happens, there's literally no way for Vasquez and co. to see it coming.
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Jan 10, 2016 23:48
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Everyone makes great points here, and I am now torn between the funny option or the friends option. On the one hand, the Jack option is guaranteed to be full of bloody mayhem, and I haven't seen it yet. On the other hand, Rhys has already seen that Jack has an in with regards to his cybernetics, and no matter what Fiona has in mind, it won't involve possibly losing control over himself. Unless he gets shot by robots... hmm... Trust Fiona. I flipped a coin.
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Trust Fiona, because I'm curious what her plan is.
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