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Angry Grimace posted:I mean, one of them is reading the card on the table in front of you and one of them requires information entirely outside of the game
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Babylon Astronaut posted:It isn't "entirely outside of the game" when you can ask for the oracle text of any card at any time. People are hung up on the notion that he got wrecked because he didn't have esoteric knowledge of an older card. The actual issue is that he didn't bother naming the card he wanted correctly.
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Jan 11, 2016 09:26
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Well right or wrong, that's how you avoid the problem and almost everyone under utilizes their judges as if calling a sidebar with a judge makes them a lesser player. It is a very good skill to develop and will win you games I promise.
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Jan 11, 2016 09:37
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Fifth Dawn Bikini Girl buyout? Time for me to profit, I bought them at like $15. This is an example of a totally MTGFINANCE buyout because the decks she works in are not Modern competitive outside of spiking random tourneys. It's like investing in Mistbind Clique when Faeries does its annual/biannual performance where it does real good on Day 1 of some tourney.
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Jan 11, 2016 10:02
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Angry Grimace posted:Fifth Dawn Bikini Girl buyout? Time for me to profit, I bought them at like $15. There are like 7 copies in the wild so if two people wanted to buy playsets it would be a "buyout." The card has had a ridiculous price for its entire life because it's a fifth dawn card.
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Jan 11, 2016 10:12
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I'm tempted to try out Magic Online. Is it still a thing? Is it worth it?
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It's worse than the online version of a game of Magic's popularity from a company of Hasbro's size should be, but it's better than most of the vocal reactions you'll find to that question on the internet would lead you to believe.
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Jan 11, 2016 11:51
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Sigma-X posted:People are hung up on the notion that he got wrecked because he didn't have esoteric knowledge of an older card. The actual issue is that he didn't bother naming the card he wanted correctly. Exactly. Like I said, all he needed to have done would be to make sure that the card he selected was uniquely identifiable as the card he wanted. It doesn't matter if Plain Borborygmos is a poo poo card, just like in the VSL nobody's gonna say "oh man why is LSV naming Abandon Hope?". He hosed up, he didn't make sure he made the right choice, even after he asked a Judge. List of things that would have been okay: "The Borborygmos with the land discard ability" "That green and red guy I've seen you get into play with the spell" (If he'd seen it) "The Borborwhatever guy, the one you played last game" "Judge? I want to name that card, can you give me the oracle name?" "Borborygmos, but I want to be clear that we're thinking of the same one." "Borborygmos Enraged, Gatecrash Mythic Rare, collector's number #147, art by Aleksi Briclot, costs 4RRGG (CMC 7), Legendary Creature - Cyclops, [the entire card text], 7/6" Literally anything other than the one that uniquely identified an entire other card would have been fine (or at least, not WRONG)
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Jan 11, 2016 11:57
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Not to mention that they have access to decklists, so you can always say "The Griselbrand that's in his deck" just in case there was a new version of Griselbrand printed that you missed out on or something. Honestly this is pretty funny, I don't know why people are getting so worked up about it.
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Jan 11, 2016 12:14
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gwrtheyrn posted:If you were expecting something around 20% of people to run affinity would you still do that? I'm starting modern with merfolk, but when I walked around last week there were at least 6-8 affinity players out of 40 and at least one lantern player. 4 hurkyls is a lot of room in the sideboard, but basically conceding 1 match per night is not really too appealing either If I were going into the format expecting 20% affinity, I would either: A) Borrow a friend's deck and not play fish. or B) Run 4 Steel Sabotage over Hurkyl's Recall The reason for B is that Hurkyl's Recall is great, but honestly, you need to permanently answer 1 of 2 cards, Ravager or Cranial Plating. Steel Sabotage allows you to do that, for 1 mana. That combined with the dismember/vapor snags you have in the main/board should be enough to give you some game. Again, affinity is bad, but I think steel sabotage is just better than hurkyl's. Hurkyl's slows them down for a turn, but since all their stuff is so cheap it can just be recast. Steel Sabotage acts as blue artifact hate against affinity that can bounce an artifact in a pinch. It is also better against Lantern control, which though a small percentage of the meta, is also a horrible matchup for fish. You would think Hurkyl's would be better, but Lantern tends to run some number of Leyline of Sanctity in the board, and Leyline into t3 Bridge is unbeatable. but with Steel Sabotage you can bounce the offending permanent well enough, or counter it on the way down.
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I was testing an eldrazi aggro build and I just had the most funny nut draw ever: Turn 1: Eye of Ugin, 2x Eldrazi Mimic Turn 2: Eldrazi Temple, Thought-Knot Seer, take a card from opponent's hand and attack for 8 Turn 3: Ghost Quarter, Reality Smasher, attack for 19
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Jan 11, 2016 12:34
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Sigma-X posted:There are like 7 copies in the wild so if two people wanted to buy playsets it would be a "buyout." Low supply an player interest can never be the reason a cards price rises sharply. It is always the mtgfinance Illuminati!!!
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jassi007 posted:Low supply an player interest can never be the reason a cards price rises sharply. It is always the mtgfinance Illuminati!!! Every time I buy 100 mulldrifters for a penny I don't buy a play set of auriok champs for $80. The key to MTG finance is either not do it or be 100% sure you don't have mats for an impromptu gallows in your living room. We need shorthand for when a cards price hits "no loving way until the reprint happens"
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Bonus posted:I was testing an eldrazi aggro build and I just had the most funny nut draw ever: Can you post your list? I really like this idea.
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Jan 11, 2016 14:37
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Sure. This is a very rough draft and it probably needs a lot of work, but the idea is to have curve-outs like those as often as possible. Not sure about Oblivion Sowers since they don't really ramp you into anything much, but I like it that they're 5/8s and you can often cast a sower, get some lands and then cast another eldrazi in the same turn. 4 Matter Reshaper 4 Reality Smasher 4 Thought-Knot Seer 4 Eldrazi Mimic 4 Inquisition of Kozilek 4 Relic of Progenitus 1 Expedition Map 2 Oblivion Sower 4 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 2 Dismember 3 Eye of Ugin 2 Cavern of Souls 4 Ghost Quarter 4 Eldrazi Temple 3 Swamp 2 Warping Wail 2 Mind Stone 4 Blight Herder 3 Caves of Koilos SB: 2 Flaying Tendrils SB: 2 Ratchet Bomb SB: 2 Darkblast SB: 4 Vampiric Link SB: 1 Pithing Needle SB: 2 Tectonic Edge SB: 1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger SB: 1 Duress
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Jan 11, 2016 15:08
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I would've never even thought of being a jackass enough to try to "get" my opponent on Borborygmos vs Borborygmos Enraged. Did he end up losing?
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Jan 11, 2016 15:28
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mcmagic posted:I would've never even thought of being a jackass enough to try to "get" my opponent on Borborygmos vs Borborygmos Enraged. Did he end up losing? Yes, he lost in the finals to jund.
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Jan 11, 2016 15:36
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Sickening posted:Yes, he lost in the finals to jund. Who did he "get" with it? The Jund player? Also Jund is Dead, Long Live Jund.
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Jan 11, 2016 15:41
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mcmagic posted:Who did he "get" with it? The Jund player? Also Jund is Dead, Long Live Jund. He ended up winning his match with his "gotcha". To be fair he was on a 2 turn clock anyway with his opponent in top deck mode and was going to win anyway.
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Sickening posted:He ended up winning his match with his "gotcha". To be fair he was on a 2 turn clock anyway with his opponent in top deck mode and was going to win anyway. So even less of a reason to pull that... It just looks bad for competitive Magic if you ask me. The Decklists are public in a top 8. It's 100% sure to everyone in the building what card was being named.
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mcmagic posted:So even less of a reason to pull that... It just looks bad for competitive Magic if you ask me. The Decklists are public in a top 8. It's 100% sure to everyone in the building what card was being named. Its already been argued in circles 20 times over with by now.
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Jan 11, 2016 15:53
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The answer is to ban Borborygmos so that it is no longer part of Modern and thus not a valid card to name with pithing needle et. al.
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oh man i've never seen a HD version of Yawgmoth's Bargain until today and it turns out the dude in the robes is giving Yawggie his eye, that owns, look at this mang
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I think he's technically the black cloud at the back of Last Stand. I don't think that was supposed to be him on Yawgmoth's Bargain but idk, they didn't exactly have tight creative control or consistency at that point
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mandatory lesbian posted:also for that matter, Yawgmoth looks cool as heck, does he have any other art?  Technically anyway.
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Sutfin is such a great artist, Victauriok's Secret model aside. Barrin, Compulsive Research, Hex, all fantastic. He had only one card in Shards and none since. RIP good magic art.
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mandatory lesbian posted:huh apparently they're getting rid of all but like 2 of the weekly columns are they getting rid of maro's? please god please
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mandatory lesbian posted:huh apparently they're getting rid of all but like 2 of the weekly columns They got rid of their forums because they can just use Reddit (even though it can't be much effort to maintain the MTG forums) so getting rid of their columns and relying on SCG and ChannelFireball for promotion is the next logical step. Presumably they'll shut down Gatherer and just use magiccards.info for oracle text.
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Did that offsite judge site come back up post-drama? Relying on external services seems bad, but what do I know. edit: especially loving Reddit.
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quote:To summarize, here's what the new DailyMTG is going to look like for the foreseeable future lol at "Official Magic Fiction"
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odiv posted:Did that offsite judge site come back up post-drama? Relying on external services seems bad, but what do I know. Yes, magicjudges.org is back up
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Lancelot posted:are they getting rid of maro's? Maro's column is like the only one worth reading outside of previews, what are you talking about
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Bonus posted:Sure. This is a very rough draft and it probably needs a lot of work, but the idea is to have curve-outs like those as often as possible. Not sure about Oblivion Sowers since they don't really ramp you into anything much, but I like it that they're 5/8s and you can often cast a sower, get some lands and then cast another eldrazi in the same turn. I don't think you should run an aggro build at the same time as a Processor build. I think they're probably different decks.
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Jan 11, 2016 17:44
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How was the new "improved" coverage for the GP? I wasn't really in touch with MTG at all this weekend.
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Hellsau posted:Presumably they'll shut down Gatherer and just use magiccards.info for oracle text. This would be an improvement
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mcmagic posted:How was the new "improved" coverage for the GP? I wasn't really in touch with MTG at all this weekend. CFB ran the GP so it was their coverage, not WotC's.
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dragon enthusiast posted:This would be an improvement I still pine for comments.
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