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everyone listen, paul cheon got (hehe) okay listen man he got (hahahaha) 69th place at gp oakland (omg lol) he go the funny sex number (lmao)
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mandatory lesbian posted:everyone listen, paul cheon got (hehe) okay listen man he got (hahahaha) 69th place at gp oakland (omg lol) so did David Bowie *runs quickly out of the thread*
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mandatory lesbian posted:everyone listen, paul cheon got (hehe) okay listen man he got (hahahaha) 69th place at gp oakland (omg lol) nice
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black potus posted:so did David Bowie *runs quickly out of the thread* rip the original Starman
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https://m.facebook.com/groups/44505...919&__tn__=%2As It appears wotc is finally squashing out proxies at local game stores. Greed is a bitch. I personally like the part where wotc states proxies are illegal for personal use. How moronic. Sickening fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jan 12, 2016 |
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Sickening posted:https://m.facebook.com/groups/44505...919&__tn__=%2As jesus christ
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Sickening posted:https://m.facebook.com/groups/44505...919&__tn__=%2As Could you quote the relevant text for those of us without the facebooks?
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So are they like going to ban people that print out a shitload of proxies for gauntlets and stuff?
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I guess killing legacy and vintage online wasn't enough for WotC.
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Star Man posted:So are they like going to ban people that print out a shitload of proxies for gauntlets and stuff? Ban every pro player Wizards
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Star Man posted:So are they like going to ban people that print out a shitload of proxies for gauntlets and stuff? The threat so far is to revoke your stores wpn status. I am not sure how they are going to stop you from using proxies for personal use.
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Johnnie5 posted:Could you quote the relevant text for those of us without the facebooks? This is the relevant text from the follow-up email they sent me: Hello Edward, Thank you for taking the time to speak with me. As we discussed we received information concerning some questionable or undesirable activity that occurred at your store. We understand many of these issues stem from misconceptions or miscommunications and I have summarized what we discussed below. • Magic events (sanctioned and unsanctioned) can only allow genuine Magic: The Gathering cards. • Proxy cards are substitute cards created solely by judges in sanctioned tournaments pursuant to the official tournament rules. These substitutes are allowed when authorized game cards become unplayable during a sanctioned tournament because of damage or excessive wear. • Counterfeit cards are copies or reproductions of actual Wizards trading cards, whether or not they are identified as non-genuine. The creation and distribution of counterfeits violate United States and international copyright laws and negatively affects the integrity of Wizards’ trading card games. Counterfeits are strictly prohibited, even for personal, non-commercial use.
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Chinese counterfeiters, do your thing and flood out this card game, please
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Count Bleck posted:"Pithing Needle, naming Jace." this exact convo happened one FNM, no one knew which one i meant when i said "the anime one, with the anime hair"
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TheKingofSprings posted:Chinese counterfeiters, do your thing and flood out this card game, please
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Wizards is on a parade of lovely decisions lately. Who cares about unsanctioned events? They get people to actually play your game and lead to sales. In my experience, most people I know that tried out decks/formats at proxy events eventually ended up building real decks. Really sucks for me because it probably means no more legacy at all at my local shop. We had 75 card proxy every Thursday that gave out card prizes and it was only possible because of proxies being allowed.
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Doesn't Vintage always allow proxies because the format is an unplayable money game without them?
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Wizards is on a parade of lovely decisions lately. Who cares about unsanctioned events? They get people to actually play your game and lead to sales. In my experience, most people I know that tried out decks/formats at proxy events eventually ended up building real decks. Yeah the only legacy I've ever played was 15-proxy at my local flgs 
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Really sucks for me because it probably means no more legacy at all at my local shop. We had 75 card proxy every Thursday that gave out card prizes and it was only possible because of proxies being allowed. Same. No more legacy in the entire city now as far as I know, and no modern at my favorite shop. Great job! It's also hilarious how they weasel word it to look like making proxies is illegal by US law. No, writing force of will in sharpie on an island is not a crime. Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jan 12, 2016 |
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Determined to show how dedicated Wizards are to converting Magic to a game of cartoon superheroes, Wizards themselves have a adopted a persona of cartoon supervillainy
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I bet a lot of game shops have judges who have been knowingly complicit in allowing dastardly proxy events. I hope they all get banned soon.
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Next will be DCI bans on people who own proxy cubes
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If they're going to be so cartoonishly evil why aren't they abolishing the reserved list and personally burning the stocks of the cardboard illuminati while laughing at their tears yet What step in the master plan is that
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I really hope this is just some idiot WPN rep misunderstanding things.
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Thanks. Wizards loving it up again.
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I don't understand why WotC feels like they have any right to tell people how to enjoy themselves outside of sanctioned events. The only reason they get to have a say is because they have a certain degree of power over store owners. They're basically bullying shop owners by threatening to quite literally affect their ability to make a living.
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It's incredible just how terrible wotc is at everything that isn't designing the cards
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GeneX posted:It's incredible just how terrible wotc is at everything that isn't designing the cards They haven't been great at that in quite a few sets.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I don't understand why WotC feels like they have any right to tell people how to enjoy themselves outside of sanctioned events. The only reason they get to have a say is because they have a certain degree of power over store owners. They're basically bullying shop owners by threatening to quite literally affect their ability to make a living. I'm not even sure the rule is enforceable. Like what if I write on my Plains "BLACK LOTUS" with a marker. It's still a legal and non-counterfeit Magic card, just slightly altered. And if my opponent agrees to treat it like a zero mana artifact that sacrifices for three mana of any color, what can WotC even do about that? Are they making all card alters illegal to play in WPN stores? Even if they are for some ungodly reason, what if I run say, a Snow-Covered Plains and just play it as if it was a Black Lotus? Is the DCI going to disqualify me from an unsanctioned tournament? Is WotC going to browbeat the store into submission because I as a player "cheated" by treating my Snow-Covered Plains as a Black Lotus while my opponent agreed? The entire idea is ridiculous. At this point they might as well say you can't play Yugioh or Pokemon in WPN stores, it's about as sane as this.
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It was kind of strange to get the enablers for theros block in origins.
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I'm honestly considering selling stuff off slowly and backing out of the card game, I haven't heard of any good decisions made about this game for a long while and with the bubble as big as it is I'm thinking I should get out while the getting's good.
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Pretty sure they're just threatning a store and not saying dont ever print a magic card but I mean fearmongering etc.
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Ojetor posted:I'm not even sure the rule is enforceable. Like what if I write on my Plains "BLACK LOTUS" with a marker. It's still a legal and non-counterfeit Magic card, just slightly altered. And if my opponent agrees to treat it like a zero mana artifact that sacrifices for three mana of any color, what can WotC even do about that? Are they making all card alters illegal to play in WPN stores? Even if they are for some ungodly reason, what if I run say, a Snow-Covered Plains and just play it as if it was a Black Lotus? Is the DCI going to disqualify me from an unsanctioned tournament? Is WotC going to browbeat the store into submission because I as a player "cheated" by treating my Snow-Covered Plains as a Black Lotus while my opponent agreed? They could do exactly that. The agreement stores have to agree to says Wizards can cut them off at any time for any reason.
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Zoness posted:Pretty sure they're just threatning a store If you were paying attention you'd see this is the part the majority of the thread are annoyed about
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TheKingofSprings posted:If you were paying attention you'd see this is the part the majority of the thread are annoyed about I think the interpretation that wotc is literally not letting you personally proxy is kind of aggressive because of how unenforceable that would be. On the other hand if they want to cut off WPN support for stores that allow proxy events so be it v  v. That would suck but wouldn't be comically villainous.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:It was kind of strange to get the enablers for theros block in origins. Not really. They seed stuff that pairs with the mechanics for the block rotating out in the final set in its Standard season to give it a final hurrah. It also ensures that if they go overboard with a theme that it won't be in Standard for too long.
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Brownhat posted:They could do exactly that. The agreement stores have to agree to says Wizards can cut them off at any time for any reason. I know they can do it, and much worse than that: they could even get away with it. Magic is the lifeblood of many game stores and they cannot afford to lose that business. Zoness posted:I think the interpretation that wotc is literally not letting you personally proxy is kind of aggressive because of how unenforceable that would be. I don't care about proxies for myself, I don't play Vintage or Legacy and I probably never will. I just find WotC attempting to dictate what is allowed and not in an unsanctioned event to be an unreasonable abuse of their power over game stores as the biggest tradgame in the world. It is a policy antagonistic to both stores and players and ultimately counterproductive to their final aim, which seems to be cracking down on counterfeits. If anything this encourages players to procure the counterfeits that approximate the real thing as best possible, and then pretend they are real cards.
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