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Today I learned they modeled Kylo Ren after Therese's abs.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:34
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GeneX posted:How does it feel to be objectively wrong with a nominally subjective statement Magic art is the least appealing thing about Magic these days
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Jan 12, 2016 21:34
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Rinkles posted:
 wow, sadly this was gently caress boi Ren instead of loyal trooper.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:35
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TheKingofSprings posted:I agree, it's heinous and awful and I'd like you to post some more cards   I like the Wizard of Oz characters. Rinkles posted:
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Jan 12, 2016 21:36
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TheKingofSprings posted:Magic art is the least appealing thing about Magic these days Let's not go overboard here, there's a lot of bad things about magic.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:39
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Uh, MTG art has plenty of bright colors. It's cool if you'd rather see some anime girl on a card instead of "generic fantasy creature #4325" but at least just say you like anime instead of pretending its the color palette or whatever.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:39
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Maro and some of the other designers have talked about how the initial use of 1/1s and 2/2s led to granularity problems. How do you make a creature that would kill a human, but get killed by a bear? You'd need to either use 1.5/1.5 or have some kind of combat mechanic to make it happen. God, this is so easy. You just start by making every creature have ten times the power/toughness and a new ability word that makes you divide the damage they deal to players and creatures without that ability word by ten. And then round down. Do I have to think of everything?
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Jan 12, 2016 21:41
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Uh, MTG art has plenty of bright colors. It's cool if you'd rather see some anime girl on a card instead of "generic fantasy creature #4325" but at least just say you like anime instead of pretending its the color palette or whatever. I do like anime! I'm not pretending anything. I just (also) scroll down an entire set's worth of cards (eg this) and see less colors put together than in that single Little Red Riding Hood card.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:Uh, MTG art has plenty of bright colors. It's cool if you'd rather see some anime girl on a card instead of "generic fantasy creature #4325" but at least just say you like anime instead of pretending its the color palette or whatever. I like anime Also Wizards is making a concerted effort to slam Magic's art direction into the uncanny valley or w/e
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Can I opt for neither the bland justice league marysue pinups done in shades of a single dominant color, or the anime rainbow vomit with one billion things going on that makes it unnecessarily difficult to read the card text because it's full art instead of having a proper textbox because of course it is Also, is the cowardly lion literally wearing a schoolgirl uniform? I mean that's not even something that really offends me, but it sure as hell makes me go, "YUP, that's  "
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Jan 12, 2016 21:44
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It's kind of a neat exercise to divide a Yugioh's creatures attack/defense by 400 to see what their equivalent P/T would be in Magic, and the reverse for Magic. Like Griselbrand would be a 2800 attack creature in Yugioh, which for a long time was kind of associated with good monsters (Goyo Guardian, Dark Armed Dragon) provided they had an ability that was insane.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:44
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Funny thing is that the latest magic cards that appealed to me were the anime looking ones. The ones that looked like they came from final fantasy. There's no more Guay or Nielsen art.
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  Two cards, two artists, Nissa making green magic stuff swirl around ferns. The only difference is Nissa has a staff in the second one. Is that why that card gains life but the other doesn't?
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Jan 12, 2016 21:46
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Chill la Chill posted:Funny thing is that the latest magic cards that appealed to me were the anime looking ones. The ones that looked like they came from final fantasy. There's no more Guay or Nielsen art. I never thought of anime when I looked at Guay or Nielsen but if it pressed that button for you, more power to you. I guess I would agree with the statement that both the aforementioned artists and (some) anime have more of an artistic bend that at least interests me more than the worse offenders of the photorealism shift in Magic art, so they're alike in that respect.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:48
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
The staff costs 3 mana though
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Jan 12, 2016 21:49
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JerryLee posted:I never thought of anime when I looked at Guay or Nielsen but if it pressed that button for you, more power to you. Nothing in Chill la Chill's post said he did, either. He just said he prefers the animesque art because all of the really interesting art is gone.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:49
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Nothing makes me thankful for magic art quite like looking at FoW or yugioh or whatever. At least we've got a frame layout with sensible design and font choices to make it readable and the biggest complaint about the art is that it tends to get a bit same-y for certain kinds of cards and there's a bit too much bland CG work. You can pick out bad examples but at least the individual cards on average aren't unreadable anime dumpster fires.
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Jan 12, 2016 21:51
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Rinkles posted:Apropos nothing This crop would make a better card art than the picture it's cropped from
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Jan 12, 2016 21:52
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TheKingofSprings posted:Nothing in Chill la Chill's post said he did, either. Yeah. The only really new art that appeals to me is the Thalia that looks like FF12 Lightning. Also an anime. But drat if MTG made a Jojo Jace art... 
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's kind of a neat exercise to divide a Yugioh's creatures attack/defense by 400 to see what their equivalent P/T would be in Magic, and the reverse for Magic. So would there be anything that beats Emrakul (or say, Marit Lage) at base?
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TheKingofSprings posted:Nothing in Chill la Chill's post said he did, either. Ah, I parsed his post wrongly. I read 'The last time Magic art appealed to me was when it had elements of anime, like final fantasy. Now there's no more Guay or Nielsen art' and took the implication to be that those two artists were examples of the elements of anime, so when artists like them stopped getting Magic work, the anime disappeared. (The fact that Nielsen actually hasn't(?) stopped working for Magic yet aside, if course.)
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Jan 12, 2016 21:55
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kirtar posted:So would there be anything that beats Emrakul (or say, Marit Lage) at base? actually, yes 
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Rinkles posted:Apropos nothing 
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Jan 12, 2016 21:57
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TheKingofSprings posted:actually, yes Ha ha, that's amazing. Got an english version of that to read? JerryLee posted:Also, is the cowardly lion literally wearing a schoolgirl uniform? I mean that's not even something that really offends me, but it sure as hell makes me go, "YUP, that's  It's just a shirt and shorts.
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JerryLee posted:Ah, I parsed his post wrongly. I read 'The last time Magic art appealed to me was when it had elements of anime, like final fantasy. Now there's no more Guay or Nielsen art' and took the implication to be that those two artists were examples of the elements of anime, so when artists like them stopped getting Magic work, the anime disappeared. the real anime art was by quinton hoover anyway 
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Jan 12, 2016 22:00
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Ramos posted:Ha ha, that's amazing. Got an english version of that to read? No, it's Japanese only now, but the gist of it is it can't attack and your opponent has to attack into it or they lose the duel during their turn
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Jan 12, 2016 22:01
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TheKingofSprings posted:No, it's Japanese only now, but the gist of it is it can't attack and your opponent has to attack into it or they lose the duel during their turn So your opponent is effectively in The Abyss.
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Jan 12, 2016 22:06
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Ramos posted:It's just a shirt and shorts. Yeah, I can see it being shorts instead of a skirt, but the top still looks like basically this sort of style: 
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Jan 12, 2016 22:07
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It's a boy's private school uniform like the one in the Bully video game.
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Jan 12, 2016 22:09
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It's a male school uniform that has shorts instead of long pants.
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Jan 12, 2016 22:09
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TheKingofSprings posted:actually, yes From what I can read, the name is "Don Thousand/Monster C" JerryLee posted:Yeah, I can see it being shorts instead of a skirt, but the top still looks like basically this sort of style Male students wear the same style. 
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Okay then, fair enough, I misspoke by saying schoolgirl. I should have said schoolboy which is still a  moment for me.  As I said, though, it's not a terribly offensive piece of art to my sensibilities, and in fact I like it more from a compositional standpoint (admittedly not a low bar) than the rainbow whirlpool backgrounds of some of the anime chicks. Other examples of "good," or at least less offensive, FoW card art from the OP of the FoW thread:  this actually looks like it could be some Orzhov card, complete with the dramatic horizon tilt that's all over Magic now, but the bright tones on the robe sort of save it  this is pretty decent all around Basically what I'm getting is that magical girls, specifically, are a huge trap for these sorts of illustrators.
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Going back to standard turnouts...Brownhat posted:Standard needs Khans to rotate out so badly. Once RtR rotated the player base at the store I frequent sharply dropped, going from maxed out 72 player events to 50-ish. By the time Fate dropped we were looking at 30's to low 40's and it has stayed at that since. The store also ran a rotating secondary event for 2 or 3 months which drew more people than standard each time (Legacy, Modern, Draft).
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Dehtraen posted:Going back to standard turnouts... We had massive 80-100 people in standard during RtR. Much smaller now.
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Dehtraen posted:Going back to standard turnouts... I want to say during RTR-THS standard my store regularly had 16-24 players with occasional spikes to >32. After that rotation a significant number of players began to either stick to draft or switch to Modern.
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Some Numbers posted:From what I can read, the name is "Don Thousand/Monster C" I didn't know Don Thousand had a card but I guess all the villains from his arc had corresponding cards. Hell there's even a card that corresponds to the (fusion of the) protagonists in the manga: 
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Chill la Chill posted:Yeah doing 5000 damage makes you feel like a more powerful wizard than doing 5. Pokemon also has the cool contoured foils that we're never gonna get in magic unless you wanna see Kibler rubbing his cards every time he shuffles. Maybe if you're like 5 years old and truly care about games making you feel like a more powerful wizard because zeroes.
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