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Entropic posted:And none of them ever do things in increments of less than 100, so you could divide all the numbers by 100 and nothing would change. Yugioh increments by 50's sometimes, and has a few old creatures with weird stats ending in 30 or 80. The design benefit of inflated stats is probably that it lets you print cards that say "Halve target creature's power." PhyrexianLibrarian posted:Maro and some of the other designers have talked about how the initial use of 1/1s and 2/2s led to granularity problems. How do you make a creature that would kill a human, but get killed by a bear? You'd need to either use 1.5/1.5 or have some kind of combat mechanic to make it happen. 1/2
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Zoness posted:I didn't know Don Thousand had a card but I guess all the villains from his arc had corresponding cards. I don't know anything about the story, I just translated the text.
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cheetah7071 posted:The staff costs 3 mana though You figured out why one gains life.
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Nissa's Renewal actually sees play a bit in ramp but I don't really know why. It doesn't actually do anything to stabilize beyond gaining an amount of life that probably doesn't matter on the turn you can cast it. My opponents reaction to Nissa's Revelation revealing Ulamog is way more worth it, plus you can live he agony of whiffing.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Maybe if you're like 5 years old and truly care about games making you feel like a more powerful wizard because zeroes. I don't think we need to be insulting about it (not that you were serious) but if someone plays WoW or any other game where mudflation is a thing, it's a pretty good example of how eventually inflated stats stop being  and start being  .It's like, at level 1 I did 5 damage. At level 60 I did 150 damage. Cool, I like making my numbers bigger. But then at level 85 I'm doing 150000 damage because you need to make it clear to me how insanely bigger my wizardly penis has gotten?** It starts to be meaningless. With these anime card games it's more of an initial design decision than runaway mudflation, but the potential for desensitization seems like it's about the same. **Obviously there are a few other factors, like the need to obsolete gear from previous expansions, but the exact form of bad game design that arrives at the end doesn't matter so much as what the negative effects of the end are.
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cheetah7071 posted:I do like anime! I'm not pretending anything. I just (also) scroll down an entire set's worth of cards (eg this) and see less colors put together than in that single Little Red Riding Hood card. That is more a result of magic art being smushed into a little box while the majority of real estate on the card face is taken up by a frame and text that by their nature are really bland and samey. MTG cards sacrifice a lot of aesthetics to be legible. If you reversed it, and had the anime girls in a little box surrounded by a boring frame while a bigger picture of Wild Nacatl dominated a card face with less notable text and game data, then whatever anime girl would similarly look muted by comparison.
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Angry Grimace posted:Nissa's Renewal actually sees play a bit in ramp but I don't really know why. It doesn't actually do anything to stabilize beyond gaining an amount of life that probably doesn't matter on the turn you can cast it. As a Jeskai Black player, anytime my opponent casts Nissa's Renewal I groan because I know something I can't deal with is coming the very next turn for a fact (and likely the turn after that, and after that, etc... given Sanctum of Ugin). It changes a bit post-board with Negate and Disdainful Stroke, but I've usually blown those earlier on Explosive Vegetations and maybe a naturally cast Ugin. The 7 life definitely matters to me since it gives them 1-2 turns of breathing room depending on how fortunate I've been with my Monastery Mentor draw, and I feel Jeskai Black really needs to be able to close out the game fast against ramp when it has the tiniest window open, and Nissa's Renewal feels the most window-slamming-shut when I face it. edit: I forgot about Duress which I also have a good amount of, but any number of spells that deal with non-creature spells out of my opponent basically never feel like enough against ramp, which I have my worst match % against by far. MiddleEastBeast fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jan 12, 2016 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Nissa's Renewal actually sees play a bit in ramp but I don't really know why. It doesn't actually do anything to stabilize beyond gaining an amount of life that probably doesn't matter on the turn you can cast it. It ramps you by three, which is a very big deal when you are trying to cast a 10-drop.
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Angry Grimace posted:Nissa's Renewal actually sees play a bit in ramp but I don't really know why. It doesn't actually do anything to stabilize beyond gaining an amount of life that probably doesn't matter on the turn you can cast it. 6+3, draw a land, cast ulamog. 7 life also isn't chump change if you've been keeping creatures under control. I run 2 in my g/w ramp deck and I haven't considered cutting them. It buys an entire turn while ramping, which is exactly what you want.
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little munchkin posted:It ramps you by three, which is a very big deal when you are trying to cast a 10-drop. It costs 6, doing something else like Oblivion Sower is almost always better.
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Angry Grimace posted:It costs 6, doing something else like Oblivion Sower is almost always better. It depends how close to winning the game you are next turn - Oblivion Sower hitting 3 is a pretty lucky occurance. Also you can only run 4 Oblivion Sowers unless you're that one Elvish Archdruid guy.
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Niton posted:It depends how close to winning the game you are next turn - Oblivion Sower hitting 3 is a pretty lucky occurance. No you see these two extra were copies of Sower of Temptation. I mean, Oblivion Ring.
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Doing Magic illustrations digitally (or just any kind of illustration) means that you don't have to go through the process of making copy work and you can edit work much more easily. I mean, I'd kill for a printmaker to do some Magic art, but doing it digitally means you don't need nearly as much space for equipment, don't have to have the equipment or pay someone else to do your copy work, store the artwork, and don't have as much of a risk of having to completely start over if a piece is rejected by the art director.
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Angry Grimace posted:Nissa's Renewal actually sees play a bit in ramp but I don't really know why. It doesn't actually do anything to stabilize beyond gaining an amount of life that probably doesn't matter on the turn you can cast it. I'm guessing you've whiffed more than you'd like to admit is acceptable for a 7 drop.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:That is more a result of magic art being smushed into a little box while the majority of real estate on the card face is taken up by a frame and text that by their nature are really bland and samey. MTG cards sacrifice a lot of aesthetics to be legible. If you reversed it, and had the anime girls in a little box surrounded by a boring frame while a bigger picture of Wild Nacatl dominated a card face with less notable text and game data, then whatever anime girl would similarly look muted by comparison. A lot of the old art looks perfectly good in the small text box though. Sometimes it seems like the artist/art director forgets that the art is supposed to be confined to a tiny box and not a large canvas or HD image.
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I run Nissa's renewal to thin my deck. The life gain is just a bonus.
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Oblivion Sower ramps you less and your opponent can probably just kill it and keep beating you down. Getting probably at least one extra turn with 9+ mana in play is pretty good. e: it also helps turn on Shrine of the Forsaken Gods so the chance of it getting you to Ulamog mana is pretty high
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I'm amazed that with all the talk over FoW's art, no one is commented on how mind-bogglingly terrible the "flavor text" is. I'd take any Magic expression flavor text over that poo poo any day.
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Pyrolocutus posted:I'm amazed that with all the talk over FoW's art, no one is commented on how mind-bogglingly terrible the "flavor text" is. I'd take any Magic expression flavor text over that poo poo any day. Lottery of Babylon posted:"That's my win!"
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Come on Ramos, I love Force of Will in spite of it's awful presentation but the level of bad flavor text in it is insane.
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No, I'm not disagreeing. The flavor text is a major case of lazy translation probably coupled with not exactly being Shakespearean in its native language. That tends to leave it feeling redundant and stilted. I just remembered Lottery of Babylon's quote and thought it was funny and fitting for the moment.
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To all of you that said "WOTC isn't going after people with sharpies". https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/40kdsz/wizards_may_be_cracking_down_on_unsanctioned/cyvzi9d Welp. Trick wants to be infamous. Sickening fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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"You should feel bad for [massive corporation]'s bottom line." -Man who professionally goes by the name "Trick", January 2016.
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"Trick" posted:We know players love Magic and love playing its variety of formats, including Vintage and Legacy. Some formats are easier to get into than others and these two are hard. "Go gently caress yourselves," Trick continued.
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I wonder if this started with Hasbro or Wizards. Were there any seat changes for Hasbro recently?
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Good news on the gameday playmat friends
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Skyl3lazer posted:Good news on the gameday playmat friends Those (light) shafts don't look right
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Rinkles posted:Trick I wonder how many pieces of silver he got for writing this?
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Skyl3lazer posted:Good news on the gameday playmat friends So, could a Judge, hypothetically, strongarm a store and/or a player and/or a TO into getting one of those? Asking for a friend. 
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Rinkles posted:Those (light) shafts don't look right How many shrooms do you think Chandra did that day
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Ramos posted:I wonder if this started with Hasbro or Wizards. Were there any seat changes for Hasbro recently? At my employment we've been victim to some internet legal issues lately, and our lawyers have been going ham with press blurbs/explanations and "this is our new motto". These sudden blasts of "Intellectual Property" keywords and rewriting of policies, etc. remind me very similar to our company's lawyer's responses. In my opinion, Hasbro got pretty pissed that they were under fire from Chinese manufacturers (pretty much the stereotypical fear of a toy company) and sent some overbearing law team to MTG to tie up loose ends and reevaluate corner cases (Leaks/Proxies/Printings) and establish new policies.
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I googled "Top 8 vintage deck", took the first one that popped up (happened to be UR Delver), and checked its price. Sixteen thousand dollars. Banning sharpied islands actually promotes counterfeiting. People who were playing sharpied island vintage aren't going to turn around and drop sixteen loving thousand dollars for a "real" deck, but they might spend a few bucks on chinese counterfeits that look real so they would be allowed to play.
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OfChristandMen posted:At my employment we've been victim to some internet legal issues lately, and our lawyers have been going ham with press blurbs/explanations and "this is our new motto". These sudden blasts of "Intellectual Property" keywords and rewriting of policies, etc. remind me very similar to our company's lawyer's responses. This actually just increases the demand for Chinese counterfeits This is the most rear end-backwards way of going about this and I can't think of any way it's not backfiring
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Skyl3lazer posted:Good news on the gameday playmat friends So uh who do I talk to to get them to customize this to add in the thought bubble?
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I feel like trick wasn't a good hire as community manager.
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OfChristandMen posted:At my employment we've been victim to some internet legal issues lately, and our lawyers have been going ham with press blurbs/explanations and "this is our new motto". These sudden blasts of "Intellectual Property" keywords and rewriting of policies, etc. remind me very similar to our company's lawyer's responses. Yeah, I am not surprised at all. Every time an emergency comes up in my workplace, it's just lawyers tapping their feet menacingly, but that manages to always freak out everyone. I guess the solution for vintage is to counterfeit better. Sickening posted:I feel like trick wasn't a good hire as community manager. To be fair, how would you break this to the masses? Being community manager occasionally means having to take poo poo two ways.
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JerryLee posted:I agree that calling a sharpie job a "counterfeit" seems like a stretch, but they've established that it isn't a "proxy" so what exactly is it? Trick Jarrett posted:I know that feels crazy, that we regard marker on a card as a counterfeit, but remove the visual accuracy from the judgment – they serve identical purposes when it comes to game play. I thought I was just making a comment on how oversimplified their category scheme was, I wasn't expecting them to literally double down on calling sharpie jobs counterfeits holy poo poo
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