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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Top City Homo posted:

i wonder if there is a correlation between cuck porn and fat white rage

interesting to find out if cuck porn increased in 2008 and continued progressively increasing until reaching the climax of trump

some graduate student should dig deep into it

I think it started after 2008 but yes. Being cucked, esp. by a black bull seems to always be swimming around the minds of neoreactionaries.

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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



William Bear posted:

I'm pretty sure this makes him more :smuggo: than angry.

"Go ahead, look at how huge and luxurious she is!"

"Look at how fat my wife is " -donald trump

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot

looks like a tampon ad and putting jeb bush on it only furthers that.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Microwaves Mom posted:

looks like a tampon ad and putting jeb bush on it only furthers that.

Admiral_eX_laX
Jul 8, 2009

Historically Inaccurate
Trump eat the pork

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Trump's skin

Admiral_eX_laX
Jul 8, 2009

Historically Inaccurate

Nonsense posted:

Trump's skin

lick the meat sweat off his brow and gain his powers

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Admiral_eX_laX posted:

Trump eat the pork



Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Poor marla

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Give me thump/sanders independent run.

fun tunnel
Feb 16, 2007

that boys so lovely
i look forward to watching trumps inauguration and finally being proud to call myself an american. i pray for the day for my legionaries is required reading.

fun tunnel
Feb 16, 2007

that boys so lovely

Admiral_eX_laX posted:

Trump eat the pork



trump doesnt sweat he glistens

The Real Paddy
Aug 21, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
I'm currently reading through Mein Kampf The Art of the Deal and it gives much further credence to the thesis that the Donald is operating by a strategy and not just "winging it":

quote:

One thing I've learned about the press is that they're always hungry for a good story, and the more sensational the better...The point is that if you are a little different, or a little outrageous, or if you do things that are bold or controversial, the press is going to write about you...I'm not saying they necessarily like me. Sometimes they write positively, and sometimes they write negatively. But from a pure business point of view, the benefits of being written about far outweighed the drawbacks. It's really quite simple. If I take a full-page ad in the New York Times to publicize a project, it might cost $40,000, and in any case, people tend to be sceptical about advertising. But if the New York Times writes even a moderately positive story about one of my deals, it doesn't cost me anything, and it's worth a lot more than $40,000.
- pg. 56-57

quote:

The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular.
- pg. 58

Bonus lol:

quote:

11:00 A.M.: I meet with a top New York banker at my office. He's come to try to solicit business, and we have a general talk about deals I'm considering. It's funny what's happened: bankers now come to me, to ask if I might be interested in borrowing their money. They know a safe bet.
- pg. 13

Edit:

quote:

All this was inspired by the principle -- which is quite true in itself -- that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
- Donald Hitler

The Real Paddy has issued a correction as of 08:37 on Jan 12, 2016

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

The Real Paddy posted:

All this was inspired by the principle -- which is quite true in itself -- that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily, and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

Tish! That's Strauss!

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Do you think Trump will unleash on Hillary during one of his rallys? Like point to her tumbling in the polls as a character flaw that she'll take personally?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Powercrazy posted:

Do you think Trump will unleash on Hillary during one of his rallys? Like point to her tumbling in the polls as a character flaw that she'll take personally?

Probably whenever his opponents have any sort of setback he loves to crow about their failure.

Will probably say that Hillary is running a low energy ineffective campaign, can't keep strong numbers against Bernie despite Hillary having so many advantages.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" - Trump and Bernie, friends forever

tsa
Feb 3, 2014

The Real Paddy posted:

I'm currently reading through Mein Kampf The Art of the Deal and it gives much further credence to the thesis that the Donald is operating by a strategy and not just "winging it":


It's been really funny watching people slowly realize this because they didn't read between the lines.

Top Bunk Wanker
Jan 31, 2005

Top Trump Anger

The Real Paddy posted:

I'm currently reading through Mein Kampf The Art of the Deal and it gives much further credence to the thesis that the Donald is operating by a strategy and not just "winging it":

It's really obvious that Trump plans out almost everything he says and carefully tests and refines his messaging as he goes along. Part of his plan is tossing out lines and seeing which ones work better and leaning on those points. He's putting on a master class on persuading and influencing people in this election.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
The most interesting thing about Trump is no one knows his actual policies or positions.

Yea he wants to deport 13 million people. But that is actually impossible. So if he can't do that, what will he do instead?

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax
SoTU so far feels almost like an anti-trump "wake up america" screed

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Powercrazy posted:

The most interesting thing about Trump is no one knows his actual policies or positions.

Yea he wants to deport 13 million people. But that is actually impossible. So if he can't do that, what will he do instead?

enrich himself and his family

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
by bankrupting the nation

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Is the Trump 2020 re-election campaign slogan going to be "Make America Great Again Again"

The Real Paddy
Aug 21, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

EugeneJ posted:

Is the Trump 2020 re-election campaign slogan going to be "Make America Great Again Again"

Death to the Enemies of the Trumperium!

Oiled and Ready
Oct 11, 2004

He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

Powercrazy posted:

Do you think Trump will unleash on Hillary during one of his rallys? Like point to her tumbling in the polls as a character flaw that she'll take personally?

No this is what Hillary is going to do to Bernie "3 men raping her simultaneously" twice-married child-out-of-wedlock Trotsky-worshipping Sanders the week before Iowa.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Top Bunk Wanker posted:

It's really obvious that Trump plans out almost everything he says and carefully tests and refines his messaging as he goes along. Part of his plan is tossing out lines and seeing which ones work better and leaning on those points. He's putting on a master class on persuading and influencing people in this election.

The rolling stones article was pretty good about this. Trump sits in a plane, reading cards, interrupting him self saying he needs to focus or do this. But he keeps bouncing cards off of people asking how they feel about a statement. If he likes it, it shows up in the next rally, and if it does well there it stays in. IIRC the author said something to him on that plane that showed up at the next rally.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Jewel Repetition posted:

Trump is so, so close to eclipsing Rubio in nom likelihood: http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-republican-nomination/

Which would be yooge, because he's never been #1 there before, or even close to it. It could even cause some feedback effect when the worm turns like it did for Rubio.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Third World Reggin posted:

The rolling stones article was pretty good about this. Trump sits in a plane, reading cards, interrupting him self saying he needs to focus or do this. But he keeps bouncing cards off of people asking how they feel about a statement. If he likes it, it shows up in the next rally, and if it does well there it stays in. IIRC the author said something to him on that plane that showed up at the next rally.

I like how his speeches include digs for surreal current events like when he made fun of MOM for getting only one voter at his Iowa event and the voter stayed undecided after talking with him.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

EugeneJ posted:

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" - Trump and Bernie, friends forever

FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH CHAPO

NOW BERNIE IS MY BEST FRIEND

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Touched by a Trump

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
For years everyone thought that kissing a baby was the quintessential political photo op. In 2016 Donald Trump turns this paradigm on it's head by passionately kissing the troops.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009




Does this count as an attack on trump by the media to trump fans? There's a bunch of replies trying to argue around it (why it doesn't matter, why it's actually a good thing etc) like it was somebody's negative opinion of trump instead of just a fact.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

the people who want to strip non-white americans of their citizenship are raising money off of trump and spending it trying to get people to vote for trump
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/01/12/donald-trump-is-a-fundraising-engine-for-white/207927

quote:

Two leading white nationalist media websites have used Donald Trump in their recent fundraising drives. The solicitations hail Trump for spurring "unprecedented interest in" white nationalism and putting their ideas "firmly in the mainstream."

former Louisiana Rep. David Duke reports that the businessman has given more Americans cover to speak out loud about white nationalism than at any time since his own political campaigns in the 1990s."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...acist-movement/

quote:

Rachel Pendergraft — the national organizer for the Knights Party, a standard-bearer for the Ku Klux Klan — told The Washington Post that the KKK, for one, has a new conversation starter at its disposal.

It involves, say, walking into a coffee shop or sitting on a train while carrying a newspaper with a Donald Trump headline. The Republican presidential candidate, Pendergraft told The Post, has become a great outreach tool, providing separatists with an easy way to start a conversation about issues that are important to the dying white supremacist movement.

i'm curious, thread, if the growing connection between trump and white racism makes your support of trump more ironic, or less

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
i support trump so he destroys the republican party forever

and then loses the election in a landslide

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

oystertoadfish posted:

i'm curious, thread, if the growing connection between trump and white racism makes your support of trump more ironic, or less

if i were to base myself by the company i keep id be living on a glacier eating penguin

The Human Crouton
Sep 20, 2002

Top City Homo posted:

i support trump so he destroys the republican party forever

and then loses the election in a landslide

I support anybody who destroys any party forever. There are over 300,000,000 of us in this country. Being represented by two parties is an abstraction that should not be.

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oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

a system where all the interest groups work out their allegiances and form two and exactly two coalitions before the election is probably the best way to negotiate a first-past-the-post system. just look at the silliness that goes on in canada and the uk, a decade of conservative minority government in the former, the tories in the uk (or labour in past decades) winning >50% of the seats with <40% of the votes for the latter

there are much better ways than first-past-the-post to do house of representatives/house of commons type elections though. top-two runoffs as already exist in a few states, larger multimember districts, a mixed system where non-geographical representatives are added to correct for the discrepancy between winners in the districts and the voting average at a larger level like in germany or new zealand, these are a few options

but just having twenty parties wouldn't help all that much, the whining would just be about how that one party that gets 20% in half the districts won a majority of the seats

oystertoadfish has issued a correction as of 04:13 on Jan 14, 2016

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