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Judging by the ignorant comments you made last time a related subject was brought up, I wouldn't be too hopeful about your career either.
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I'm headed back to school in the fall for Forestry, for realsies this time. I've accepted I'm not going to hack it as a code monkey, I'm tired of tech hustling in Vancouver and barely breaking $40k, and there are no other jobs which realistically allow me to hike for $$$ and live in Haida Gwaii. Field is wide open right now, the age and skill gap is larger than any other skilled trade except machinist. The CAD sucking balls for who knows how long is only going to pump it. 
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Jan 13, 2016 23:30
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Soon we will abolish the CAD and move onto the USD
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Fried Watermelon posted:Soon we will abolish the CAD and move onto the USD Yeah, if we want to have an economic meltdown as bad as Greece's maybe.
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Jan 13, 2016 23:34
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Rime posted:I'm headed back to school in the fall for Forestry, for realsies this time. I've accepted I'm not going to hack it as a code monkey, I'm tired of tech hustling in Vancouver and barely breaking $40k, and there are no other jobs which realistically allow me to hike for $$$ and live in Haida Gwaii. Did you consider surveying? I've heard there's decent money out here for it, not sure about BC.
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Jan 13, 2016 23:36
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Rime posted:I'm headed back to school in the fall for Forestry, for realsies this time. I've accepted I'm not going to hack it as a code monkey, I'm tired of tech hustling in Vancouver and barely breaking $40k, and there are no other jobs which realistically allow me to hike for $$$ and live in Haida Gwaii. Can you go back and do a geology program somewhere? Specifically hydrogeology.
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Jan 13, 2016 23:47
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Cultural Imperial posted:Can you go back and do a geology program somewhere? Specifically hydrogeology. Geology is pretty dead brah, the few geologists I know hate life and are barely scraping by. I don't wanna waste four years and $50k at UBC to be like them. Also I'm missing about 4 required HS courses just for basic admission.
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Jan 14, 2016 00:11
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Rime posted:Geology is pretty dead brah, the few geologists I know hate life and are barely scraping by. I don't wanna waste four years and $50k at UBC to be like them. Also I'm missing about 4 required HS courses just for basic admission. I'm getting The Foundation vibes here in how the Galactic Empire fell partly because the sciences stopped getting funding and specialists stopped getting trained anywhere but on Terminus.
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Jan 14, 2016 00:21
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Kinda like how everyone thought power engineering was a dead field in the late 90s. If you don't think managing water is going to be a lucrative profession I don't know what to say. Hydrogeology, hydrology, anything to do with studying the earth and the after effects of fracking and oil drilling are all going to be lucrative professions for the next 100 years. Please don't tell me you hustled your way to graduation from high school. Who the gently caress leaves high school without at least math 12.
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My old neighbour is/was a some sort of water-engineer-wizard and even in his late 70's is still working because people beg him and pay him ridiculous sums because no one else has the skills. They recently flew him to angor wat to help some huge water management system there to keep the whole thing from sinking. Also yeah I could barely pass the easy math 11, never got my math 12 so that locked me out of a lot of post-secondary stuff. Even with a tutor and going all out I could barely manage a C. A lot of people just aren't cut out for the sciences.
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That's bullshit. BC has one of the worst high school science programs in Canada and if you can't pass math 12 you're not trying hard enough.
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Jan 14, 2016 00:42
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Ikantski posted:Did you consider surveying? I've heard there's decent money out here for it, not sure about BC. A good suggestion. There's lot of demand for it in BC right now in general, but probably less so in Haida Gwaii, since I don't imagine there's much development work going on there. But worth checking out for sure, and there's little to no skill required for entry level positions, where you're basically a day labourer carrying gear around. How I paid for all of my undergrad.
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If I was the feds I'd want to get the ball rolling on getting weed legalized and taxed ASAP. It's likely to be a drop in the taxation bucket, but at this point every extra chunk of revenue is going to be helpful. Save us, weedconomy, you're our only hope.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Please don't tell me you hustled your way to graduation from high school. Who the gently caress leaves high school without at least math 12. I had two scholarships for outstanding performance in History & Geography, out of pity my math teacher fudged my final exam in Essentials Math 11 by 5% so I could graduate. After already failing principles of math 11 twice and essentials once. Moral of the story: don't homeschool your kids and let them study history & literature for three years while neglecting mathematics, else they'll hit highschool and be unable to comprehend basic fractions or algebra.  Also, highschool curriculums in rural British Columbia might as well be stuck in the 1960's. Our education budget is a loving joke. Rime fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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Jan 14, 2016 01:11
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Rime posted:Moral of the story: don't homeschool your kids and let them study history & literature for three years while neglecting mathematics, else they'll hit highschool and be unable to comprehend basic fractions or algebra. Yeah, a big problem with math is that, if you miss the fundamentals, you're going to have real trouble down the road. On the other hand, you can still learn those things as an adult. People who don't want to improve themselves if they know their math skills are weak are as unimpressive to me as engineers who don't think they need to be able to communicate in English effectively.
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PT6A posted:Yeah, a big problem with math is that, if you miss the fundamentals, you're going to have real trouble down the road. On the other hand, you can still learn those things as an adult. People who don't want to improve themselves if they know their math skills are weak are as unimpressive to me as engineers who don't think they need to be able to communicate in English effectively. Agree. Foundations foundations foundations. While you can't guarantee that post-sec profs will be good for remedial stuff, you can be pretty damned certain they're better than your high-school teachers were.
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Rime posted:Also, highschool curriculums in rural British Columbia might as well be stuck in the 1960's. Our education budget is a loving joke.
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I don't know what I'm going to do with my own career vis-a-vis working for other people. I was more or less bullied into taking computer science and people in my family have long since written me off as "the computer one" that they're utterly blind to the actual other things I am interested in. I'm passable as a coder, I guess, but I hate having to code for things I do not like. All I've been able to notice about coding is that the types of pay are very overstated and what it is applied to is rarely socially constructive. I had a job I did like for a while, but it's dried up on funding. It was just before the dollar took a massive nosedive. I've been applying for several others, even ones that would normally brush against my ethics, but no replies for anything in my city. I don't know if I could afford to find a place in Toronto either.
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There's nothing wrong with a career in software development, especially nowadays. If you can find yourself a job coding for any place that isn't a startup you can make a decent living for yourself, for the time being, and it would seem foolish not to take advantage of it while it lasts. My earlier posts were just pointing out that despite the current good times for people in tech and programmers specifically, it's not a good idea to count on that lasting forever. The more skills you can build outside of tech, the better, but building those skills while working in a programming job is certainly doable. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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HookShot posted:The curriculum is the same in all of BC, rural or urban. Rural BC highschools do not have modern computer labs, 3D printers in the tech labs (several in the lower mainland do, now, industrial grade no less!  ), or any language courses on offer besides french. Often electives such as Law or Geography are not available. Additionally, only mediocre teachers are attracted to these small towns at best. For example, kids who take Tech Ed in rural BC learn how to install junk parts on 40 year old wrecked cars, kids taking the same course in Surrey are learning to 3D print replacement components out of metal and precision-fit them. There are zero programming or adequately advanced courses on offer in Rural BC, so even at the 12th grade level you'll be learning how to use Microsoft Word and doing typing speed tests on Core2-era machines. Which one of these student groups is being prepared for the 21st century should be obvious.The bare minimum curriculum is the same. Unfortunately that curriculum is worthless as preparation for the modern era and perpetuates the mandatory post-secondary mindset for any students unable or unwilling to study additional subjects on their own time. We have a highly educated population in this country in spite of our atrociously inadequate education system, not thanks to it. Rime fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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MA-Horus posted:...you guys realize that a low dollar makes Canadian manufacturing really appealing right? Once upon a time Ontario had a large publicly owned electrical utility that efficiently socialized the costs of expanding and running an electrical grid. This utility company kept the cost of power very low, which was crucial for the province's manufacturing sector. Despite high wages, the province remained competitive thanks to its cheap electricity prices. Then the utility company was privatized and split up by Mike Harris, and when the Liberals came into power they kept this bizarre hybrid system in place that is halfway between a publicly planned system and a privatized market one. The cost of electricity has skyrocketed and every business -- especially manufacturing -- has screamed bloody murder about it, but for some reason the Liberals won't or can't do anything. Meanwhile they've drained the provincial budget cutting corporate taxes in a vain attempt to try and stimulate the economy and they've ploughed money into a bunch of dumb projects and wasteful corporate welfare. The government at various levels has also allowed a lot of the manufacturing capacity and expertise that did exist to waste away, and the trade deals that Canada has signed have mostly pushed us further in the direction of raw resource extraction, which crowds out investment in the rest of the economy. Government at various levels have massively hosed over manufacturing, but the energy and housing booms have served to mostly conceal this until now.
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My 10th grade teacher completely forgot to teach us one math concept cause she was near retirement and didn't give a gently caress . I went from being an A student to nearly failing grade 11 cause it turned out that's what the focus was on. Thanks, Surrey School District!
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Jan 14, 2016 02:55
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Same as most other industrialized nations that have rural populations tbh.
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Chicken Doodle posted:My 10th grade teacher completely forgot to teach us one math concept cause she was near retirement and didn't give a gently caress . I went from being an A student to nearly failing grade 11 cause it turned out that's what the focus was on. Thanks, Surrey School District! Which math concept was this, if you feel comfortable answering?
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Brannock posted:Which math concept was this, if you feel comfortable answering? Before they edited it, it said trigonometry.
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Jan 14, 2016 03:27
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Surrey isn't really good at anything, in fairness.
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Brannock posted:Which math concept was this, if you feel comfortable answering? Arivia posted:Before they edited it, it said trigonometry. Yeah sorry, I was phone posting and wasn't sure I was calling it the right thing, but looking it up it was trig. Sin Cos and Tan and things related to it. It never came up in testing in her class and when I went to the next grade I was really struggling since it was supposed to be already known by then. I eventually scraped by in Math 11 but I was already not going to Uni for not having a second language skill so I didn't pursue it further. Taxes and budgets would've been more loving useful anyway. CLAM DOWN posted:Surrey isn't really good at anything, in fairness. It's great at outsourcing gang shootings to Delta!
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Once tidal energy is developed elsewhere I imagine it will start being deployed in BC so there are probably future jobs there making weird tidal systems wherever there are large tides. Pity the couple companies working on this tech can't actually get any interest here and have to build pilot projects and get funding elsewhere.
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Can't wait for my kid to be old enough to go to school, xhe's going to do great in genderless field hockey, and xhe won't have to worry about which bathroom to use, progress!
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This is a decent article about Ontario manufacturing, How Ontario lost 300,000 manufacturing jobs (and why most aren’t coming back)quote:We need to invest to ease congestion, support science and research, improve the livability of our cities, ensure the trustworthiness of our regulatory system, and educate our workers so we don’t lose our comparative advantages in attracting foreign direct investment. We need to increase productivity, diversify our export markets and support the growth of industry leaders. The government needs to concentrate on the stuff it's supposed to do; keep the roads flowing, cities livable and people healthy and educated. We could have slowed the manufacturing exodus by keeping up with our infrastructure needs and providing across the board support to businesses. Helsing mentioned that the OLP is obsessed with opaquely targeted corporate welfare. It's annoying and borderline corrupt but it's only a few billion dollars. Much worse, they thought they could create a green energy industry out of thin air and have gambled almost $170 billion of business and residential electricity users money on it. It's pretty obvious now that it isn't paying off. We have a few small turbine assembly plants and construction and security jobs but a shitload of foreign made turbines generating ludicrous revenue for almost exclusively out of province companies like Samsung, TransAlta and Enbridge. The OLP has screwed up countless other things but that one act will be the one that haunts us for a couple dozen years. In a final gently caress you to manufacturing before Wynne resigns to spend more time with her family, we'll have this year's carbon tax (which she's promised to waive for certain companies but hasn't named yet) and next year's ORPP. The manufacturing jobs aren't coming back but let's get the government focused on making the province attractive for something that can take its place is the takeaway.
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cowofwar posted:Once tidal energy is developed elsewhere I imagine it will start being deployed in BC so there are probably future jobs there making weird tidal systems wherever there are large tides. Uh, what? Everyone knows renewables are a non-starter. BC's future is in Clean LNG, a million Clean LNG jobs by 2025. Clean LNG is the path to our gas future. Clean gas jobs forever and ever. All hundred years. Clean LNG dot com. Please buy our gas?
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Nah gently caress Ontario
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Do it ironically posted:Can't wait for my kid to be old enough to go to school, xhe's going to do great in genderless field hockey, and xhe won't have to worry about which bathroom to use, progress! Go outside nerd.
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I agree. Political correctness is ruining our schools! Faggots don't even feel awful all the time anymore! I met a kid that came out when he was twelve! Can't have that! 
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Jan 14, 2016 05:00
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THC posted:Please buy our gas? The invisible hand makes a dismissive gesture and looks away.
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Apparently one of the illiterate morons in my province has called for a "kudatah" against the NDP on social media. I can only surmise that Ricky grew tired of Sunnyvale and decided to come out west. You know how I used to defend Alberta? I'm over it.
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If it makes you feel any better every province has those kinds of idiots. They just get more airtime and attention in Alberta because of idiots like Ezra. 
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Furnaceface posted:If it makes you feel any better every province has those kinds of idiots. They just get more airtime and attention in Alberta because of idiots like Ezra. Are the ones in other provinces as completely loving illiterate? How do you make it this far in your life without seeing "coup d'etat" in print? Someone else later pointed out it was "spelled in English". Both these people need to be fed face first into a woodchipper because they will never be any value to anyone except as fertilizer. How can people be that stupid?
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PT6A posted:Apparently one of the illiterate morons in my province has called for a "kudatah" against the NDP on social media. I can only surmise that Ricky grew tired of Sunnyvale and decided to come out west. The best was the dude later in the thread who responded (apparently irony-free) "He spelt it in English, not in french".
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