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nah thanks
Jun 18, 2004

Take me out.

Rocks posted:

I have to imagine tonight's debate won't matter at all. It's on Fox Business Network which basically no one watches , right?

Ostensibly it's streaming free on Fox Business's website without authentication, if that matters at all.

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Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

At a Huckabee event someone pressed him on his support of Duggars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLO...XySs-rF0XOgTLZg

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

Do Not Resuscitate posted:

He's got to get that complicated explanation of his GS loan trimmed down into an understandable -- and believable -- soundbite if he hopes to blunt that attack. Anything more than a sentence or two and it'll be perceived as an evasion, not an explanation.

That and blunt off the inevitable Trump attack on why he is a taking a million dollars from too big to fail bailed out bank that his wife works for under any circumstance and why he failed to report it.

The biggest problem is not what he did, honestly what he did was completely reasonable for someone of his wealth, the problem is that it looks weasely and slimy and Cruz already looks like you need to wash your hands after touching him.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 22, 2016

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

So many tears:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/opinion/campaign-stops/why-i-will-never-vote-for-donald-trump.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

lmao

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

paranoid randroid posted:

objection - death and jeb rallies cant be the same thing as being dead is objectively more interesting

5 points to Griefindor

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

Do Not Resuscitate posted:

Also they probably photoshopped a Trump supporter out of the picture and pasted a boring white dude in his place because this guy's arm can be seen through the head of the guy in front of him.

¡Jeb!: bad at photoshop, bad for our country.



that or he got so bored he just started to...fade

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

Xenophon posted:

that or he got so bored he just started to...fade

following in his master's footsteps

http://www.theonion.com/article/terrified-jeb-bush-beginning-fade-visible-spectrum-52060

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

Rocks posted:

Joementum is it still your opinion that Trump has a 0% chance of winning the nomination

We still haven't had a single contest yet. February is going to be explosive; four rapid fire primaries then super Tuesday. The real thing that protects Trump's #1 spot is how ridiculously weak his competition is. They're all thoroughly corrupt morons who can't even answer simple questions.

I say secret prayers that Joementum is right.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

quote:

If Mr. Trump heads the Republican Party, it will no longer be a conservative party; it will be an angry, bigoted, populist one. Mr. Trump would represent a dramatic break with and a fundamental assault on the party’s best traditions.

"I mean, we've always been angry and bigoted but Trump is a populist!"

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer
sorry dudes I know this has become a Forums Talking Point of late

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/687693270110105600

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

Full Battle Rattle posted:

We still haven't had a single contest yet. February is going to be explosive; four rapid fire primaries then super Tuesday. The real thing that protects Trump's #1 spot is how ridiculously weak his competition is. They're all thoroughly corrupt morons who can't even answer simple questions.

I say secret prayers that Joementum is right.

Why would you want Trump to lose the nomination? The other candidates have policies ranging from nearly as bad to worse than Trump and with the exception of Cruz they would do better in a general election.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Does having Cruz on stage at the debate satisfy CanCon requirements for our friends to the North?

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Dolash posted:

Goddamn, Trump is doing all this poo poo and there hasn't been one vote yet. He's managed all this on headgames alone. I've got to wonder what kind of poker player he'd be.

I can answer that one easily. He'll slam garbage hand after garbage hand hard and possibly all in, based on the fact that you don't play the hand, you play the person! And the other person is a limp-wristed weakling who won't call the Donald down!

This will work exactly until someone gets a dominant hand on him and takes all his money, making him look like a clown.

And then he'll just buy another stack and keep going.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/687690887451799552

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
Endorsements are following winners, winning doesn't come from endorsements, just ask JEB. 8 months ago he had endorsements lined up from politicians who, like most of us, assumed JEB had it in the bag and they just wanted to be early to chalk up a favor if JEB won the presidency.
A sitting governor endorsement means the GOP has finally read the writing on the wall that most of us saw back in August.

If Brandstand is his first major endorsement, you'll see a bunch of Johnny come latelys hopping on the trump express shortly after.

InsanityIsCrazy
Jan 25, 2003

by Lowtax

:ohdear:

better start working on a cruz version of itkeepshappening.gif

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Nice try, Rand, but I don't even own a TV :smug:

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
If Trump gets a REAL endorsement from Branstad that could help close that ground game gap he has on Cruz.

Very big if True... But it's probably not.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.


I think Trump would bleed more support than Hilary. People who would switch camps weren't voting for Obama. But I think the GOP has plenty of moderate business types to lose.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Joementum posted:

Nice try, Rand, but I don't even own a TV :smug:



Who can afford that poo poo these days

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Joementum posted:

Nice try, Rand, but I don't even own a TV :smug:



The revolution will not be televised! You will instead have to use a piece of technology that is even more ubiquitous today!

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
New Morning Consult GOP national Poll:


Donald Trump 42%
Ben Carson 12%
Ted Cruz 10%
Marco Rubio 9%
Jeb Bush 5%
Chris Christie 4%
Rand Paul 3%
Mike Huckabee 2%
John Kasich 2%
Carly Fiorina 1%
Rick Santorum 1%

http://morningconsult.com/polls/new...OCbhL5yDGm1rJ8i

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



AngryBooch posted:

"I mean, we've always been angry and bigoted but Trump is a populist!"

If anything, Trump is more palatable than the average Tea Partier, so I don't see why 2015 would be the big turning point.

Peter Whiner.

big business man
Sep 30, 2012

Montasque posted:

New Morning Consult GOP national Poll:


Donald Trump 42%
Ben Carson 12%
Ted Cruz 10%
Marco Rubio 9%
Jeb Bush 5%
Chris Christie 4%
Rand Paul 3%
Mike Huckabee 2%
John Kasich 2%
Carly Fiorina 1%
Rick Santorum 1%

http://morningconsult.com/polls/new...OCbhL5yDGm1rJ8i

:drat:

THIS JUST IN: Trump cannot be stumped

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Montasque posted:

New Morning Consult GOP national Poll:


Donald Trump 42%
Ben Carson 12%
Ted Cruz 10%
Marco Rubio 9%
Jeb Bush 5%
Chris Christie 4%
Rand Paul 3%
Mike Huckabee 2%
John Kasich 2%
Carly Fiorina 1%
Rick Santorum 1%

http://morningconsult.com/polls/new...OCbhL5yDGm1rJ8i

What's the reputation of this poll? Did they conduct it outside a Trump rally?

Prof. Lurker
Mar 10, 2015

I've got the fire of human liberty!

I'm setting fires everywhere!

And humans are turning on everywhere!

Montasque posted:

New Morning Consult GOP national Poll:


Donald Trump 42%
Ben Carson 12%
Ted Cruz 10%
Marco Rubio 9%
Jeb Bush 5%
Chris Christie 4%
Rand Paul 3%
Mike Huckabee 2%
John Kasich 2%
Carly Fiorina 1%
Rick Santorum 1%

http://morningconsult.com/polls/new...OCbhL5yDGm1rJ8i

lmao at ben carson still hanging around in the top 3 non-trumps in every poll

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

Montasque posted:

New Morning Consult GOP national Poll:


Donald Trump 42%
Ben Carson 12%
Ted Cruz 10%
Marco Rubio 9%
Jeb Bush 5%
Chris Christie 4%
Rand Paul 3%
Mike Huckabee 2%
John Kasich 2%
Carly Fiorina 1%
Rick Santorum 1%

http://morningconsult.com/polls/new...OCbhL5yDGm1rJ8i

Readers will also note that "Don't Know" is at 8%, which means 8% of conservative hear that list and say "uhh...um....hrm."

Trump is also the second choice of an additional 11% (Cruz 19%, Don't Know 12%, Carson 10%)

AhhYes
Dec 1, 2004

* Click *
College Slice
Is 42% a new high for a national poll? It's gotta be close.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
So is Rand really pouting his way out of the baby table debate?

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So is Rand really pouting his way out of the baby table debate?
In that he's not showing up, yeah.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So is Rand really pouting his way out of the baby table debate?

he hates running for president so ditching a debate fits in perfectly for him

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 22, 2016

Xenophon
Jun 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

AhhYes posted:

Is 42% a new high for a national poll? It's gotta be close.

He hit 41% in a mid-December Monmouth poll, so this is a new high

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

MaxxBot posted:

Why would you want Trump to lose the nomination? The other candidates have policies ranging from nearly as bad to worse than Trump and with the exception of Cruz they would do better in a general election.

I don't think any of the half-wits the republicans have put up this time would do better than Trump in the general.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Joementum posted:

Nice try, Rand, but I don't even own a TV :smug:



this makes me insanely curious what the online viewership vs the television viewership of the last few debates was

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!

AhhYes posted:

Is 42% a new high for a national poll? It's gotta be close.

I just looked back and yeah 42% is the highest but the previous highest was 41% also from Morning Consult, it also seems like their poll has always had low numbers for Cruz.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Joementum posted:

Nice try, Rand, but I don't even own a TV :smug:



Rand Paul: Turn Off Your Monitor

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Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Tatum Girlparts posted:

So is Rand really pouting his way out of the baby table debate?

https://twitter.com/AaronKatersky/status/687667842058186753

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