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Beef Hardcheese posted:I caught this little gem from Rush today. Oh man that's magical. "Ugh loving democrats trying to imply everyone has the right to a vote don't they know this is a REPUBLIC???". Also unironic "Feminazi"  GyroNinja posted:Google tells me she's Presbyterian. Are you sure you're not thinking of S. E. Cupp? I googled around a bit and yeah I think somehow I got them confused, googling Ann Coulter Atheist seems to suggest she has a hateboner for atheists too large to still pretend to be atheist.
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DrProsek posted:Oh man that's magical. "Ugh loving democrats trying to imply everyone has the right to a vote don't they know this is a REPUBLIC???". I'm pretty sure that Rush actually created the word Feminazi. He's been using it for at least a decade.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:All you'd really have to say was "Sean Smith was a beloved member of an online community I'm a member of. The right is using his death to score political points and that makes me angry. They don't even get the story right and made up a bunch of bullshit to make the president look bad." And they don't care about him. They don't. Every time I've talked to people posting his image in some dumbass meme on twitter they tell me to stay out of their mentions or some garbage. I talked with the man on TFF a few times. I wasn't close, but I know he wouldn't like to be used in the manner these idiots are using him for. Nor would any goon here I would imagine.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Hearing the Republicans attack Nikki Haley as too left-wing is just . . . mind-blowing. She's ragingly, palinesquely conservative. Refused the medicaid expansion, had a bunch of Occupy protestors illegally arrested, the whole deal. On top of that she's had a host of corruption scandals. But she's brown and smart enough to say a few non-horrible things when she thinks it's to her long term advantage (taking down the confederate flag, this) and that's enough to get her pilloried these days. Amazing. I doubt Palin would have the courage or brains to tell the base to tone it down in a SOTU rebuttal. Haley may be a raging wingnut but she's halfway intelligent.
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FuzzySkinner posted:And they don't care about him. I was in Goonfleet for a while. I never spoke directly to him but that was mostly how I knew him. Swell guy from everything I've heard about him. Though to be fair I'd probably be ticked off at the right even if I had no idea who he was. This poo poo is just ridiculous. Using somebody's death this way is just flat out wrong especially in light of the fact that they're being gigantic liars about it. beatlegs posted:I doubt Palin would have the courage or brains to tell the base to tone it down in a SOTU rebuttal. Haley may be a raging wingnut but she's halfway intelligent. One major, major issue the right is dealing with right now is a massive fracture between the Tea Party crazies steering the boat and everybody else saying "hey that's an iceberg let's not run into it." The interesting thing is that the true believer conservatives that aren't just grasping at power at the very least understand how politics works and are willing to work with the left to get poo poo done. They're willing to compromise to get at least part of their way. The Tea Party, however, is quick to throw them under a bus. They're acting like toddlers and screaming "if I can't have it no one can." The far right was relying on "so what are you going to do, vote for a Democrat?" thing for so long they think it's default right now. Unfortunately moderates are starting to go "seriously what the gently caress, guys?" while true believer conservatives are looking for a way out of crazy town.
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This explains why they never saw themselves being targeted in primaries by their own base, until the Tea Party had booted a not insignificant chunk of their asses out.
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RE: What would RWM do if 'enemy vessels' approached 'US waters' (this was in response to the US boats being in Iranian waters), there was this couple fairly recent incidents. I don't know how far US waters extend from shore, but the number I found in this article was 300 miles: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/03/russian-spy-ship-spotted-near-us-sub-base.html That comes off as fairly low-key but I bet there's way worse out there. "COULD THIS BE A SIGN OF OBAMA'S WEAKNESS?" RE: Al Jazeera America. I'll agree that it was doomed from the very beginning. The Greenwalt article is very good, and there is a line in there that Qatar wants to shutter AJA and re-lanch AJE. That's excellent news, if true. quote:AJAM has been losing staggering sums of money from the start. That has become increasingly untenable as the network’s owner and funder, the government of Qatar, is now economically struggling due to low oil prices. The decision was made recently to terminate AJAM, which allows the network to terminate all of its cumbersome distribution contracts with cable companies, and re-launch its successful Al Jazeera English inside the U.S. I am at a loss for words, having seen the trailer for Benghazi. It looks like a completely false hack job and that sucks.
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Mister Macys posted:This explains why they never saw themselves being targeted in primaries by their own base, until the Tea Party had booted a not insignificant chunk of their asses out. The scary thing right now is that the right is making a lot of blatant power grabs. They've been corrupting the system for basically ever and are doing their damnedest to prevent their opposition from having any power. They know their days are numbered but if they can manage to inspire a coup of some sort, violence against liberals, or anything of the like they're going to do it. It's scary because they're labeling themselves stalwart defenders of freedom and fighters of liberal tyranny while simultaneously making GBS threads all over everything democratic that exists. They just adore voter suppression, election rigging, and gerrymandering. I kind of wonder if right wing militias are going to just continually grow when the right fails to take the next presidential election. It's an interesting thing to think about for sure; Bernie "I Am Literally a Socialist" Sanders looks to be the one who will win already. The GOP is struggling to find somebody that can take down Trump but literally all of their candidates suck. Meanwhile they're fighting the fact that their extremists are putting up extremist candidates that the rest of America hates. Coupled with the fact that Republican policy has been an absolute, complete failure literally everywhere that it's been implemented and you have a recipe for failure.
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nine-gear crow posted:They're both acting, and the people who listen to their crap also buy into their faith schtick. People keep saying this about extremist blowhards but to me that comes off as an attempt to shield themselves from the terrible possibility that these idiots may actually believe the things they say.
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the jizz taxi posted:People keep saying this about extremist blowhards but to me that comes off as an attempt to shield themselves from the terrible possibility that these idiots may actually believe the things they say. There's no way that S. E. Cupp isn't acting. Early in her career, she was the right wing media's token atheist punching bag. The arguments she put up are basically taken from the top of the "how not to discuss atheism" list taken to the point of absurd parody to make sure that they're exactly what right wing Christians would want to hear. I mean, statements that are so perfectly wrong that they can't be anything other than intentional. I'd actually assumed she'd dropped out of existence after her little performances, and I was gobsmacked to see her on loving CNN after the recent debates. That's what I get for ignoring cable news...
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McGlockenshire posted:I'd actually assumed she'd dropped out of existence after her little performances, and I was gobsmacked to see her on loving CNN after the recent debates. That's what I get for ignoring cable news... CNN has really gone down the drain in terms of quality lately, and that's saying a lot since its been really lovely for over a decade now. Also was she showing her legs off in a really conspicuous manner? That was her gimmick on Fox and I wonder if that stayed. Shalebridge Cradle fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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AJA failing doesn't really surprise anyone. I actually overheard a co-worker state, aloud, in regard to AJA "That's the terrorist news channel, look at the name!" They're kinda doomed from the start as a mass-market media entity. I like their international stuff though.
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beatlegs posted:I doubt Palin would have the courage or brains to tell the base to tone it down in a SOTU rebuttal. Haley may be a raging wingnut but she's halfway intelligent. Yeah, that's why she's scary.
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Jan 14, 2016 14:45
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Fox and Friends was trying really, really hard this morning to paint 2 armed warships entering Iranian waters, and having the ship and crews returned in less than a day instead of killed to the last man as a foreign policy failure.
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Jan 14, 2016 14:57
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Goatman Sacks posted:Fox and Friends was trying really, really hard this morning to paint 2 armed warships entering Iranian waters, and having the ship and crews returned in less than a day instead of killed to the last man as a foreign policy failure. Obama didn't respond by carpet bombing Iran into rubble. Of course they deemed it a failure.
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How the hell did you even watch Al Jazeera America? I can't recall ever having it as a choice as a channel, and I think the youtube channel was defunct when I tried to subscribe to it.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Fox and Friends was trying really, really hard this morning to paint 2 armed warships entering Iranian waters, and having the ship and crews returned in less than a day instead of killed to the last man as a foreign policy failure. Fox News is trying really, really hard on this. They think that the sailors violated the military code of conduct by saying anything other than "name, rank, and serial number." They think that Iran violated the Geneva convention by arresting the guys and making them put their hands behind their backs. They think that the White House lied when they said they didn't apologize to Iran because that one guy apologized for messing up the boat stuff. They think that the sailors were "coerced" into apologizing by Iran. They think the White House had to beg and plead to get the sailors back. I heard one of the Fox News people this morning wonder aloud "Why did the US soldiers allow themselves to be taken?" So basically they think those 10 sailors should have died in a hail of gunfire rather than have the indignity of being told to put their hands behind them by dirty Iranians. I expect some really ridiculous stuff in the debate tonight. I know I've already seen Rubio try to spin some nonsense on Fox about how weak and pathetic this all made Obama look. They're all insane.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:How the hell did you even watch Al Jazeera America? I can't recall ever having it as a choice as a channel, and I think the youtube channel was defunct when I tried to subscribe to it. Also, nothing says quality programming like being one of the few SD channels in the news. I couldn't watch it but mostly because it hurt my eyes and often insulted my intelligence (after having my expectations set by AJE during the Arab Spring.)
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STAC Goat posted:Fox News is trying really, really hard on this. They think that the sailors violated the military code of conduct by saying anything other than "name, rank, and serial number." They think that Iran violated the Geneva convention by arresting the guys and making them put their hands behind their backs. They think that the White House lied when they said they didn't apologize to Iran because that one guy apologized for messing up the boat stuff. They think that the sailors were "coerced" into apologizing by Iran. They think the White House had to beg and plead to get the sailors back. Isn't the story basically that the sailors made a stupid mistake, Iran arrested them just in case they weren't who they said they were, then when it was confirmed they were, in fact, Americans Iran packed them up and sent them home? The only thing the right cares about right now is war with Iran. That's it. They want to start bombing Iran so they're trying to turn this into some major, huge incident when really poo poo like this happens all the time. This was handled exactly right. The guys admitted they hosed up, Iran kept them for a day and sent them home, everybody apologized, nobody died.
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STAC Goat posted:I expect some really ridiculous stuff in the debate tonight. I know I've already seen Rubio try to spin some nonsense on Fox about how weak and pathetic this all made Obama look. They're all insane. The stunning part is that the situation was handled with incredible professionalism and level-headedness on all sides. The fact that the right has responded spittle-flecked insanity shows just how irrational they have become.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Isn't the story basically that the sailors made a stupid mistake, Iran arrested them just in case they weren't who they said they were, then when it was confirmed they were, in fact, Americans Iran packed them up and sent them home? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that actually the GOP orchestrated this entire thing right before the next republican debate in order to boost both viewership and social awareness that the GOP's stance on starting a war with anyone who looks at you weird. It all lines up; it's literally the easiest explanation out there and you need to open your eyes to see The Truth if you think otherwise.
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This "Sailors and John Kerry Apologized" meme from the right is insufferable. Hannity in particular was driving me nuts with it yesterday. Let's see: An accident occured and Iran took the sailors into custody because how are they supposed to know what's going on? I mean, are you telling me that if a boatload of Iranian sailors broke down near Boston Harbor or something we wouldn't have a few questions? So through diplomacy and a measure of mutual respect, these guys were set free in, what, less than 48 hours? No saber rattling, and no threats. No shots were fired. No crisis ensued. A few "whoops, my bad" comments were made and gratitude was expressed for a Good Thing That Happened. A good thing happened and these assholes are running around complaining it was too cordial and peacefully handled? The entire incident couldn't have been handled any better and the outcome couldn't have been more desirable. What's the mother loving problem here? That we didn't start a god damned war over it?
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They don't want cordial and peaceful. They want posturing and anger. And if they ever actually say something good about Obama then their whole world falls apart. I was watching the SOTU with a conservative who mocked Obama for saying he wanted to cure Cancer. Its just pathological.
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BiggerBoat posted:What's the mother loving problem here? That we didn't start a god damned war over it? Yes. Fox News' foreign policy seems to be "anyone who is not currently sucking America's dick with great zeal must be bombed into oblivion."
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BiggerBoat posted:This "Sailors and John Kerry Apologized" meme from the right is insufferable. No, really, that's exactly the problem. It didn't end with years of carpet bombing and bleeding, maimed Iranian people. The right has been desperately grasping at another war for years now and they're furious they didn't get it.
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BiggerBoat posted:I mean, are you telling me that if a boatload of Iranian sailors broke down near Boston Harbor or something we wouldn't have a few questions? Yeah what gets me is that, if the situation were reversed, they would be loving livid if Odumbo tried to repatriate the sailors without waterboarding them or holding them as ransom to extract some sort of concession from Iran. And the talking heads on Fox are calling ARE TROOPS cowards and traitors, because they let the Iranians board their broken-down boat instead of making a suicide attack on some random coast guard and then apologized for making a navigation error.
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Phone posted:For a bunch of authoritarian blowhards, they sure are wringing their hands over people following the loving rules. Ask them why they don't support the troops and indicate that they think the troops have poor judgement. Might be good for a laugh.
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Maybe they're angry because Iran isn't being American enough. If Iran truly believed in American ideals, those sailor would have been thrown in a extraterritorial prison camp, tortured, and held indefinitely without trial. 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I'm pretty sure that Rush actually created the word Feminazi. He's been using it for at least a decade. He was a misogynistic turd from the very start.
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Regarding old Rush interview footage. My brother tells me he saw something years ago that featured both Al Franken and Rush Limbaugh talking frankly about what they do regarding radio hosting. I showed my bro the Rush interview with that NYC guy with the hair but he says that wasn't it. Does anyone know of any other Rush "behind the curtain" interviews?
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Phone posted:For a bunch of authoritarian blowhards, they sure are wringing their hands over people following the loving rules. Rules are for other people to follow so you can take advantage. They aren't insane, they are evil. They actively want service men to die if it wins them a tiny political soundbite. I will never understand why more enlisted don't listen to what these pundits say and the clear message that they are all expendable fodder in the great war against Democrats.
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So how is the RWM handling the Cruz birther debacle? According to a professor of constitutional law on MSNBC, Cruz is not a natural born citizen, but rather, was instantly naturalized which makes him ineligible or something along those lines. http://reverbpress.com/politics/constitutional-law-ted-cruz/ Is RWM being quiet on it, is there a split? Whose on what side?
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Breitbart, which now has a 7-day-a-week propaganda show on Sirius/XM, has actually bought the birther line pretty hard. I get the feeling that Breitbarters are too fascist leaning to prefer Cruz over Trump, since Cruz is a bit more moderate in his rhetoric.
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I've always been surprised by all the love for AJE. I used to listen to them on the radio when I worked in Qatar (2010ish, so pre-AJA) and for discussion panels they would regularly bring in this American guy who made GWB look like a Marxist and then gang up on him. The guy was basically a human strawman. That, plus the absolute fawning over Saudi, was enough to really sour me on Al Jazeera. Maybe they've changed since 2010, but I have a hard time believing they're much more impartial than Fox News, they just come from a different angle.
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ToastyPotato posted:So how is the RWM handling the Cruz birther debacle? I haven't watched much Fox News the last week but I honestly haven't seen it mentioned at all. I saw them talk about the Cruz New York attack and now the loan thing but I get the impression FNC is largely ignoring it or just mentioning it and moving on. When I say that I'm mostly talking about like FNC from like 8 AM to 4 PM which is all I've really been catching. They seem to be more of the FNC voice to me while the primetime folk seem to have way more editorial control and go off book.
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Dr Pepper posted:What exactly made Brietbart turn against Cruz? He only wants to kill every single person in ISIS-held portions of countries, not genocide all Muslims.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I'm pretty sure that Rush actually created the word Feminazi. He's been using it for at least a decade. I used to use that word unironically up until someone I knew gave me the rundown on it when I was 19. The seeds of feminism were planted that day in late 2006.
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