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MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

The existence of these guys is so secretive that Imperial Guard regiments (ie regular fodder) who fight alongside them are typically executed or sent on suicide missions afterwards. Of course the fact that the Grey Knights only typically fight daemons means that any Guard regiments fighting alongside would be mass executed anyway as a precaution against the spread of Chaos.

Stuff like this is what puts me off WH40K, it veers too close into 4th Stimpire territory. Why would anyone continue to fight for these rulers, they don't seem that much better than the Chaos they claim to protect humanity from. The guys that come out looking least evil are those mecha dudes and they still plan to genocide humanity through sterilization. Might as well embrace Chaos and to hell with everything.

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Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Man, CIG really does love the idea of quantity over quality don't they?

Well yeah. At least they can produce quantity. And when I say “produce”, I mean “promise” (and by that I mean “dream of”) — actually producing it would require effort and coordination, which is another idea that they really love, but can't quite turn into reality.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo


One_Ten 1 posted:

Reported for posting pornography!

these guys got no game

aleksendr
May 14, 2014

Agrajag posted:

that doesn't even make sense

Its an old Freemium game trick. The 99.99$ gem stack does not really exist to be sold, its there to make the 49,99$ one looks like a resonable purchase.

With globalization and modern, on demand marketing there is no longer any real link between the effort and value of materials necessary to produce something and the asked price for it.

Best example ? Cell phones covers. 0.003$ of extruded plastic and mold wear, 5 cent packaging, 3$ shipping. Retail price : 19.99$

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Toops posted:

I just wanna point something out here. Here's a Chris Roberts quote from November 2014 re Arena Commander server costs:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/3818197/#Comment_3818197

Again, this was just for Arena Commander, in 2014. What do you think they're spending on AC + SM + Alpha 2.0 servers these days, considering they can't get past their inability to netcode and simply throw more servers at scalability problems?


I threw out my guesstimate with bandwidth costs which are negligible.

For the Cry/Star/WTF engine gurus what is the maximum amount of players in a server instance? That is going to define the final calculations. But, $80K is chump change for cloud computing. Well unless you only have a few thousand playing it. And that's the kicker, that's what they had.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Tippis posted:

This is a very good description of what's going on and why. I'm going to steal it the next time the issue comes up.

Technically it's 'prosperity gospel'. But any advance scam can work wonders, especially if you play with the raft of logical fallacies. Finding someone who doesn't innately feel them is great.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

illectro posted:

It's a hilarious combination of many minor things. Truthfully as with many things in Star Citizen, it's really only a tiny slice of very vocal haters that make the noise, most people are much more reasonable. But here's a few things I've done that made people mad

* Mentioned Derek Smart without viciously attacking him, because, I'm actually a pretty polite person in general.
* Deleted referral codes from comments.
* Deleting organization advertisements from comments.
* Not reminding people on every video that Star Citizen is an alpha
* Not reminding people on every video that you don't actually have to spend $350 on a jpeg.
* Being a goon and winning Eve online
* being a fan of games that aren't star citizen
* using the word 'extreme' to describe ridiculous fanboy hate posts, which is apparently the same as calling the poster a terrorist.

I've also been accused of:
* only showing the buggy bits of the game (the reverse is true, it's easy to make compilations of SC glitches, hard to show things working as intended)
* faking my accent
* deliberately not disabling motion blur to make the game look bad
* spending hundreds of dollars on the game so I would have an excuse to attack it.
* being bad at the game to make the game look bad
* having a computer that's too slow and making SC look bad because of this (i7-6700K + 980TI + 32gigs).

All of these come from personal messages or comments on threads.

But every time I generate a 400 post thread on reddit with tons of random vitriol I get dozens of personal messages from far more reasonable individuals apologizing for the behaviour of their peers. There's plenty of reasonable people still out there.

Personally, I have a thick skin and I don't worry about any of this.

OTOH, you do really good videos and I have yet to see one I don't enjoy, so there's that too, FWIW.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

redwalrus posted:

can't wait to land in my spaceship on a crysis level detailed planet filled with alien wildlife that I get to hunt as the planet realistically turns in space and has full day and night cycles sounds completely legitimate that's definitely coming I definitely believe it

that is definitely coming right after they add a bunch of ways to buy clothes for real money with no way to earn credits to buy them but definitely after that for sure, also the cutlass redesign is almost done just 8 more months for the base model

Might as well ask for realistic weather so you can run your Tianhe-2 properly.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Daztek posted:

You need a :pgabz: account to read this message.

Alright, drat it, that's one step too far.

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

MeLKoR posted:

Stuff like this is what puts me off WH40K, it veers too close into 4th Stimpire territory. Why would anyone continue to fight for these rulers, they don't seem that much better than the Chaos they claim to protect humanity from. The guys that come out looking least evil are those mecha dudes and they still plan to genocide humanity through sterilization. Might as well embrace Chaos and to hell with everything.
Some do! But it's not exactly the kind of universe where that stuff is reported on the nightly news or in any reasonable manner that would allow guardsmen to connect the dots between fighting alongside Grey Knights = your Imperial Guard regiment ~mysteriously vanishes/is wiped out to a man~.

Also you have a Commissar at your back ready to put a bullet in your head at the first sign of insubordination so better to keep your head down and lasgun pointed at the same cosmic horror that everyone else is shooting at.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Did Mr. Smart died

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

MeLKoR posted:

Might as well embrace Chaos and to hell with everything.

That's the Big Truth. The Emperor himself 'consumes' thousands of psykers that are rounded up to feed the beacon that keeps the ships of the Imperium flying. The whole thing is a massive set of horrific misunderstandings and chinese whispers to the extent where when Chaos Marines refer to the corpse Emperor, they could be right. Is the Empire just as bad as Chaos? Yeah, but the other races are a bunch of snooty elves that believe that all the other races are making it worse, Orks, which are a literal fungus plague that likes to fight everything and anything. Tyranids, biological von nuemann fleets that are the size of galactic arms, necrons, which are effectively terminators...

It's really bleak, there's no winning, and yet they're going to expend everyone doing it.

Fun thing about Chaos, they usually have a very clear view, just a terrible endpoint.

The reason why Imperial Guard do their job is that they have no choice, cowardice is rewarded with a bullet. it's an allegory to World War I and the whole idea of using humans as the basic weapon of choice. They're given one of the shittiest weapons in the universe and usually soak up damage for your spessh marines.

I can't help it, some of the lore is really, really dumb and appeals to tweens, but in other ways it's extremely elegant and hosed up, but none of it is really original. It's mostly 'homage du', and in some cases outright nicked. But I think it's great. it's like human history x 1000 with spaceships and power armor.

Colostomy Bag posted:

I threw out my guesstimate with bandwidth costs which are negligible.

For the Cry/Star/WTF engine gurus what is the maximum amount of players in a server instance? That is going to define the final calculations. But, $80K is chump change for cloud computing. Well unless you only have a few thousand playing it. And that's the kicker, that's what they had.

It's AWS, at least. I haven't looked much further than that. I have some packet dumps to go through, though.

Samizdata posted:

Alright, drat it, that's one step too far.

Agreed. Outages to change the platinum account message are dumb.

Hav fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 14, 2016

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

Daztek posted:

Did Mr. Smart died

I'd guess he's still trying to catch up with the thread.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006





:woop:

Matlock Birthmark
Sep 24, 2005

I wanted this to happen!!
Soiled Meat

These daily patches are so exciting. Do you think they'll still know about that elevator?

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

well is the elevator door fixed

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Daztek posted:

Did Mr. Smart died

He was actually Alan Rickman all along :smith:

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Daztek posted:

Did Mr. Smart died

Legal probably ate his homework so now he has to redo it and some supplementary task that he got slapped with because it was the third time he tried the same excuse.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Are they showing close ups of that jpg that was presented as a new WIP variant, only painted red and with some poorly photoshopped features?

KiddieGrinder
Nov 15, 2005

HELP ME

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:




these guys got no game

That looks horrible, honestly horrible. It looks like one of those Gundam robot toys, but with most of the parts missing, so it's just this formless mishmash of sharp angles and doodads.

But what's with the two by two Noah's Ark dudes hanging around the front?

Or is this some sort of weird alien sleigh, being pulled by captive humans? Does this mean sex slaves are confirmed? What the gently caress is happening? :psyduck:

edit: probably Sandi's idea to keep the humans separated by race also.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

well is the elevator door fixed

I hope they push it to Live with the door still broken

sanctimoniousqfd
Dec 16, 2015

Toops posted:

Is Sandi "acting" in this intro, or is it me? Because she sounds like a floating wood block clomping against the pier.

Not completely caught up yet, but do these AtV episode always follow this format? Is Sandi auditioning for a role as a news anchor or something? It's like "Sandi soundbite, Erin fill in, repeat x5 and ad-lib some witty banter" - I was half expecting Sandi to shuffle her notes when the camera cuts back to her and then at the end she'd turn to Eric for a muted conversation with lights fading out.... Hollow, bloated, over-produced, soulless and totally unfulfilling, much like the way the game seems to be going.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



KiddieGrinder posted:

That looks horrible, honestly horrible. It looks like one of those Gundam robot toys, but with most of the parts missing, so it's just this formless mishmash of sharp angles and doodads.

But what's with the two by two Noah's Ark dudes hanging around the front?

Or is this some sort of weird alien sleigh, being pulled by captive humans? Does this mean sex slaves are confirmed? What the gently caress is happening? :psyduck:

Star Citizen Strippers?

quote:

from the monthly report:
The Medical Unit animations are nearly complete, and the Nightclub animations are not far behind. Throughout this process we’ve identified and solved issues with female locomotion and vending machine metrics.
I dunno, sounds like strippers (dancers, probably not full GTA style lol) confirmed to me, anyone else?

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

KiddieGrinder posted:

That looks horrible, honestly horrible. It looks like one of those Gundam robot toys, but with most of the parts missing, so it's just this formless mishmash of sharp angles and doodads.

But what's with the two by two Noah's Ark dudes hanging around the front?

Or is this some sort of weird alien sleigh, being pulled by captive humans? Does this mean sex slaves are confirmed? What the gently caress is happening? :psyduck:
well they could be for scale

also, has no citizen demanded anatomically correct character models yet? I'd love to see when the camera glitches to show gloriously bald spacecocks

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
also I think they're doing the original plz don't steal UEE "roman salute"

Tijuana Bibliophile fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jan 14, 2016

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Daztek posted:

I hope they push it to Live with the door still broken

You monster. Without working doors the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards!

I mean really, without doors all we're left with is birds!

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Beet Wagon posted:

You monster. Without working doors the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards!

I mean really, without doors all we're left with is birds!

Everyone wins! Check mate.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
if they can't get an elevator door to work or the reticule to work in an engine with native support for that

how are they going to make anything else work

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Eonwe posted:

if they can't get an elevator door to work or the reticule to work in an engine with native support for that

how are they going to make anything else work

you just gotta believe in the dream :downs:

sanctimoniousqfd
Dec 16, 2015

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Eonwe posted:

if they can't get an elevator door to work or the reticule to work in an engine with native support for that

how are they going to make anything else work

They won't

ZenMaster
Jan 24, 2006

I Saved PC Gaming


Holy crap if one more person at CIG says "we know about that issue and are looking into it" I'm gunna... well, do nothing, but it bugs me sumthin awful

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

I think Sandi has a couple of bones dedicated to fake smiling and they're killing her

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

spacetoaster posted:

Yeah but Joe Kucan is freaking Marlon Brando compared to Sandi Roberts.

One purpose, one vision. The Brotherhood of No...CIG.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

SelenicMartian posted:

I think Sandi has a couple of bones dedicated to fake smiling and they're killing her



Nah. She probably just had something sour in her mouth and finally managed to swallow it.
The question is who got bitten.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Eonwe posted:

if they can't get an elevator door to work or the reticule to work in an engine with native support for that

how are they going to make anything else work

you sound disillusioned friend

plz have a jpeg it must be good it was on screen for minutes

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
we're so close to page 1300 it's scary

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

we're so close to page 1300 it's scary

Have to make it a worth while post then. :negative:

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Wulfling posted:

Have to make it a worth while post then. :negative:

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Samizdata
May 14, 2007

BMan posted:

It's actually the best GPU on the market :science:

Stop hurting my GTX 760's feelings!

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