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AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

Non Serviam posted:

I saw the movie Chef recently and although it was a cute film, several things bothered me.

Robert Downie Jr.'s role is absolutely unnecessary. I know this was probably a nod to the fact that Ron Favreau directed Iron Man but he was pointless.

There's no explanation of what the ex wife does. It's never said why this lady has a mansion and a publicist.

It was a big commercial for Twitter.

I thought both ScarJo and RDJ's appearances were more or less cameo nods at Iron Man. Neither of them had any actual importance to the plot.

The movie was unashamedly foodporn so I loved it though.

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Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

AnonSpore posted:

I thought both ScarJo and RDJ's appearances were more or less cameo nods at Iron Man. Neither of them had any actual importance to the plot.

The movie was unashamedly foodporn so I loved it though.

I sincerely recommend the film, it's a low effort, feel good movie. The twitter poo poo and the cameos were annoying though.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
The most ridiculous part of that movie is Jon Favreau hooking up with both ScarJo and Sofia Vergara

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Henchman of Santa posted:

The most ridiculous part of that movie is Jon Favreau hooking up with both ScarJo and Sofia Vergara

quote:

written, produced, directed by and starring Jon Favreau

Although I think if most of us were in the position of writing, directing and starring in our own movie we'd find a way to smooch Scarlet.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Zaphod42 posted:

Although I think if most of us were in the position of writing, directing and starring in our own movie we'd find a way to smooch Scarlet.

Watch Don Juan and hate Joseph Levett for a whole new batch of reasons.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Inzombiac posted:

Watch Don Juan and hate Joseph Levett for a whole new batch of reasons.

Don Jon, and I completely respected him for writing in scenes with him and both Scarlett and Julianne Moore. Good movie too!

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Casting Tony Danza as his Dad was a moment of genius.

Mildly Amusing
May 2, 2012

room temperature
Watched Equilibrium for the first time. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I was bugged by the underwhelming final confrontation with his new partner. It lasts all of two seconds despite the fact that the movie establishes the two of them as rough equals.

Also it needed more gun kata, but I guess I could always just go play Bayonetta for that.

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Not irrational in any way, but Alan Rickman died today, and it makes me sad. :( gently caress cancer.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


A thing that bugs me about the opening scene of The Force Awakens:
Rey is scavenging inside a Star Destroyer that crashed on Jakku. She gets a load of stuff, and slides down a sand dune to her speeder. Which can hover.
Why climb all the way up a big rear end sand dune to get into the ship, when she can just ride the speeder up instead?

10 Beers
May 21, 2005

Shit! I didn't bring a knife.

Nth Doctor posted:

A thing that bugs me about the opening scene of The Force Awakens:
Rey is scavenging inside a Star Destroyer that crashed on Jakku. She gets a load of stuff, and slides down a sand dune to her speeder. Which can hover.
Why climb all the way up a big rear end sand dune to get into the ship, when she can just ride the speeder up instead?


Maybe it only works on flat terrain?

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Nth Doctor posted:

A thing that bugs me about the opening scene of The Force Awakens:
Rey is scavenging inside a Star Destroyer that crashed on Jakku. She gets a load of stuff, and slides down a sand dune to her speeder. Which can hover.
Why climb all the way up a big rear end sand dune to get into the ship, when she can just ride the speeder up instead?


Because [technology] in SW doesn't work the way you think it does/should. Same as half the other complaints, but here are some thoughts:




We've only seen speeder tech on pretty flat ground. It seems like it hovers a certain distance off the ground, and if there was no flat ground up there it might just slide right back down the hill, if she could get up there at all. Maybe going up hill uses more quatloos of fuel than she can afford. Maybe dunesledding is the funnest part of her day.

Maybe she did ride to the top, and it hoverslid back down, so she sleds down to it.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
I have a meta question: what's the policy on TFA spoilers? It's been out for a while, and I'd say that you, if you post in this thread, have probably seen it already.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Tasteful Dickpic posted:

I have a meta question: what's the policy on TFA spoilers? It's been out for a while, and I'd say that you, if you post in this thread, have probably seen it already.

I didn't feel like seeing it for a week after opening so I unsubscribed from this thread but someone posted a tom the dancing bug comic in the political cartoons thread where every single punchline was edited from "on september eleventh terrorists crashed planes into the twin towers killing thousands" into a force awakens spoiler so they got me. I kind of left my body and astral communed and my big revelation about the universe was just just the realization that "huh, I cared? weird." while I processed a bunch of names that meant nothing to me but spelled out the structure of the ending.

suuma
Apr 2, 2009

Trent posted:

Because [technology] in SW doesn't work the way you think it does/should. Same as half the other complaints, but here are some thoughts:




We've only seen speeder tech on pretty flat ground. It seems like it hovers a certain distance off the ground, and if there was no flat ground up there it might just slide right back down the hill, if she could get up there at all. Maybe going up hill uses more quatloos of fuel than she can afford. Maybe dunesledding is the funnest part of her day.

Maybe she did ride to the top, and it hoverslid back down, so she sleds down to it.

My question is how it hovers without being turned off, when she gets on it she flips a switch or whatever and some smoke comes out as if she just started the engine, but it's not like it's touching the ground before that.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)
It's got repulsor lifts at the bottom. Like Luke's landspeeder.

Philippe has a new favorite as of 21:20 on Jan 14, 2016

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Kinda makes sense that it only works on relatively flat ground, on any noticable incline its own weight would pull it down. Probably more so than with a regular car since there's no friction.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
I remember that in the video game for the Episode One Podracers there was something silly with physics. Podracers would slide on ice.

Podracers don't touch the ground.

suuma
Apr 2, 2009
After looking at some other SW stuff I guess every speeder in the SW universe just floats magically with the engine turned off but I guess it never bugged me until smoke sputters out of the engine in TFA.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


suuma posted:

After looking at some other SW stuff I guess every speeder in the SW universe just floats magically with the engine turned off but I guess it never bugged me until smoke sputters out of the engine in TFA.

The up-from-ground hover dealies are always on, whereas the go forwards/backwards motor isn't. Done.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Arrath posted:

The up-from-ground hover dealies are always on, whereas the go forwards/backwards motor isn't. Done.

Yeah its feasible enough that they have some technology for negating or counter-acting gravity, but the same system couldn't be used for velocity laterally through air (with neutral gravity) so you'd need a second system.The first system may not even be powered depending upon how the technology works.

I haven't dug deep enough into wookiepedia to know how star wars' tech works but its sci-fi who cares.

The problems are from when they explain too much, not from when they leave something open. You can easily fill the gap with technology.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Arrath posted:

The up-from-ground hover dealies are always on, whereas the go forwards/backwards motor isn't. Done.

Yup. It even makes sense if you assume the hover part is battery powered, and the horizontal thrusters are engine powered.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

rydiafan posted:

Yup. It even makes sense if you assume the hover part is battery powered, and the horizontal thrusters are engine powered.

Well from a physics pov the hover part wouldn't necessarily have to use energy if it was just keeping the speeder at a constant height. Like putting something on a table doesn't drain the table's batteries.

So there's a justification for not wanting to bring it up to the star destroyer - going uphill actually drains the hover battery, going level doesn't;

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
In Revenge of the Sith Palpatine gets his face all jacked up when the force lighting he shoots at Mace Windu bounces off the lightsaber and back into Palpy's face.

So why didn't Luke get all Ghoulified when Palpatine was zapping the hell out of him at the end of Return of the Jedi?

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Panfilo posted:

In Revenge of the Sith Palpatine gets his face all jacked up when the force lighting he shoots at Mace Windu bounces off the lightsaber and back into Palpy's face.

So why didn't Luke get all Ghoulified when Palpatine was zapping the hell out of him at the end of Return of the Jedi?

Common theory is that that's Palpatine's true face, due to the dark side warping and twisting him, and he'd been hiding it from everyone with force powered mind fuckery. He just used the force lightning as a cover story to allow him to drop the mask.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Panfilo posted:

In Revenge of the Sith Palpatine gets his face all jacked up when the force lighting he shoots at Mace Windu bounces off the lightsaber and back into Palpy's face.

So why didn't Luke get all Ghoulified when Palpatine was zapping the hell out of him at the end of Return of the Jedi?

Power creep :shrug:

(Also Mark Hammil did scar the poo poo out of his face in a car accident during filming, but I think that was for empire and not the end of ROTJ)

rydiafan posted:

Common theory is that that's Palpatine's true face, due to the dark side warping and twisting him, and he'd been hiding it from everyone with force powered mind fuckery. He just used the force lightning as a cover story to allow him to drop the mask.

Or alternatively the lightning made it so he couldn't maintain the mask. That actually makes perfect sense.

El Cid
Mar 17, 2005

What good is power when you're too wise to use it?
Grimey Drawer

Panfilo posted:

In Revenge of the Sith Palpatine gets his face all jacked up when the force lighting he shoots at Mace Windu bounces off the lightsaber and back into Palpy's face.

So why didn't Luke get all Ghoulified when Palpatine was zapping the hell out of him at the end of Return of the Jedi?

By that point Palpatine had learned an important lesson about limiting power.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Tunicate posted:

Well from a physics pov the hover part wouldn't necessarily have to use energy if it was just keeping the speeder at a constant height. Like putting something on a table doesn't drain the table's batteries.

So there's a justification for not wanting to bring it up to the star destroyer - going uphill actually drains the hover battery, going level doesn't;

Personally I assumed the speeder was a little front heavy, having that huge blob out front that meant it would roll over backwards like any old tractor/4-wheeler/whathaveyou going up too steep an incline unless Rey was to back it up the hill, which would just take more time that hiking up there so fuckit let's walk :effort:

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

10 Beers posted:

Not irrational in any way, but Alan Rickman died today, and it makes me sad. :( gently caress cancer.

That's weak sauce.

I loved him in everything from Die Hard to Robin Hood, even Harry Potter. PYF Rickman roles.




Oh well, back to 24hr TFA chat.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Another bunch of things about Palpatatine that bugged me:

He's shooting force lightning at Mace Windu, in a deadlock, and stops because he's 'too weak' to go on (out of Force Juice or whatever? ) but then when Anakin cuts off Windus hands Palpy suddenly gets a second wind and force lightnings him out the window. Was he just going easy earlier on to get Anakin to betray the Jedi? I wasnt sure how close he was too actually getting killed, its as if he just Dark Jedied the whole scenario since Anakin conveniently arrives at the right time.

If Dookus force lightning didn't work on Obi Wan, why waste his Force Juice on Yoda who can catch the poo poo with his bare hands?

Corn Burst
Jun 18, 2004

Blammo!

Panfilo posted:

Another bunch of things about Palpatatine that bugged me:

He's shooting force lightning at Mace Windu, in a deadlock, and stops because he's 'too weak' to go on (out of Force Juice or whatever? ) but then when Anakin cuts off Windus hands Palpy suddenly gets a second wind and force lightnings him out the window. Was he just going easy earlier on to get Anakin to betray the Jedi? I wasnt sure how close he was too actually getting killed, its as if he just Dark Jedied the whole scenario since Anakin conveniently arrives at the right time.

If Dookus force lightning didn't work on Obi Wan, why waste his Force Juice on Yoda who can catch the poo poo with his bare hands?

Palpatine was absolutely goading Anakin into betraying the Jedi and pretending to be a victim of Jedi oppression, poo poo, that was what he was all about in Clones/Sith. Also Dooku probably didn't know Yoda could deflect the lightning, nor did it drain him much (if at all). I can't believe I'm defending the prequels.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Panfilo posted:

If Dookus force lightning didn't work on Obi Wan, why waste his Force Juice on Yoda who can catch the poo poo with his bare hands?

Because Lucas needs to establish that Yoda is capable of fighting/neutralizing force powers so he can have Yoda jump around with his mini lightsaber.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
I never understood how a Jedi can go Ex Jedi, like Dooku. It's like, you get trained since childhood how to harness and use this power and not have emotions and then you decide, eh, not for me, and you can leave that easily?

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Cowslips Warren posted:

I never understood how a Jedi can go Ex Jedi, like Dooku. It's like, you get trained since childhood how to harness and use this power and not have emotions and then you decide, eh, not for me, and you can leave that easily?

I don't think they went into it very much in the movie but in the promotional stuff around episode 2 they talked about how what Dooku did was super rare and that Jedi generally don't quit the Order.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe

Cowslips Warren posted:

I never understood how a Jedi can go Ex Jedi, like Dooku. It's like, you get trained since childhood how to harness and use this power and not have emotions and then you decide, eh, not for me, and you can leave that easily?

because it's pretty hard to not have emotions and eventually all that repressed poo poo is going to come back up and all of a sudden you've killed 30 younglings and are calling yourself vader

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
I always assumed jedi didn't lack emotions. I mean we see Obi Wan show it, but they are trained to keep them in check especially when using The Force. And they're not sith so they don't seem want to kill anyone who wants to leave.

Elfgames
Sep 11, 2011

Fun Shoe

RagnarokAngel posted:

I always assumed jedi didn't lack emotions. I mean we see Obi Wan show it, but they are trained to keep them in check especially when using The Force. And they're not sith so they don't seem want to kill anyone who wants to leave.

exept mace windu, dude was basically a sith

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005
My IIMM is at the end of TFA when one character significantly offers a lightsaber to another character, except she offers it pointy end first, not bottom first, like you would if you were offering someone their sword back.

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Lightsaber trigger discipline!

Another IMM:

Guards. The bad guy is always like "leave us." Palpatine does it in Return of the Jedi, and I'm sure there's a lot of other films that do it too. And in the Star Wars movies, we never see those red guards for Palpatine do anything except leave and get chumped by Yoda.

The whole Yoda vs Palpatine fight was supposed to be the culmination of all the Jedi fights up until that point, but it felt unintentionally comical. Palpatine falling over backwards in his chair, making that creepy O face when force dueling Yoda, etc. Also, even if Yoda managed to kill the Emperor would that really fix anything? Anakin had already turned, the Emperors death would have guaranteed others would wipe out the rest of the Jedi, and vice Emperor horned guy would probably just pick up where the Emperor left off.

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