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Chill la Chill: Jul 2, 2007; Don't lose your gay

Have you considered using that .jpg as your sig, boom^3?

I looked for some funny tweets regarding that monster mash anime to try the new embed function but uh....

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:27

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Jeb Bush 2012: Apr 4, 2007; A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

LOGH is pretty good but it suffers from some of the major plot points depending on characters making decisions that no actual human being would make. The space battles are also pretty boring and their resolution always feels arbitrary. And neither "a democracy with british army aesthetics and 1990s japan gender roles" or "prussia I guess" are particularly interesting societies. Other than, pretty good though. It's also like >100 episodes long which may be a good or a bad thing depending.

moths posted:

GW has considered millions of requests for classics like Epic, Mordheim, Necromunda, and Blood Bowl, and decided instead to run with present an off-brand X-wing knockoff.

That was never even a specialist game. It was a forge world one-off release.

I don't see who this is supposed to appeal to beyond hardcore existing GW customers, why would anyone else want this over X-Wing?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:29

Thirsty Dog: May 31, 2007

Chill la Chill posted:

I wonder if you can have a well-done series of import like the wire or band of brothers done in the current en vogue anime drawing style and have it be recognized as a great series with merit. Like, I would watch all the seasons of breaking bad with a main character who had gigantic eyes and a silly outfit.

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is the second best police procedural series behind The Wire.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:29

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

I don't see who this is supposed to appeal to beyond hardcore existing GW customers, why would anyone else want this over X-Wing?

What if it turns out to be a solid, fun game with really good miniatures?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:32

Business Gorillas: Mar 11, 2009

did that frostgrave game ever pan out ot be something cool and good?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:34

guts and bolts: May 16, 2015; Have you heard the Good News?

Thirsty Dog posted:

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is the ~~second~~ third best police procedural series behind The Wire and Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

Also maybe Cagney and Lacey is ahead, too

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:37

Tekopo: Oct 24, 2008; When you see it, you'll shit yourself.

So has GW ever pre-released rules for any of their systems ever? I'm assuming that AI is gonna follow the standard pattern of not even spoiling anything that is going to be present within the box and then attempting to avoid any PDFs of the rules from actually hitting the web. In recent years there hasn't been a single boardgame/kickstarter that I've bought where I couldn't read the rules beforehand, and I'm constantly paranoid if a designer/publisher is unwilling to provide PDFs of their game rules before the game is actually out.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:38

Saint Drogo: Dec 26, 2011

boom boom boom posted:

What if it turns out to be a solid, fun game with really good miniatures?

so is (I'm told?) Xwang and people who already have a thing they like dont usually shop around for an upgrade. KoW was probably always a better game than WFB but I didn't give a poo poo until GW throttled the latter. :shrug:

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:39

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Saint Drogo posted:

so is (I'm told?) Xwang and people who already have a thing they like dont usually shop around for an upgrade. KoW was probably always a better game than WFB but I didn't give a poo poo until GW throttled the latter.

Multiple games can exist. Maybe AI plays a little differently, or appeals to people who like the Warhammer 40k universe more than Star Wars, or prefer modelling and painting over buying pre-painted miniatures. Mayeb FFG fucks up and X-Wing gets bad or cancelled or something. Maybe AI won't be as big as X-Wing, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to try to make a good game.

"it probably won't be the biggest game in town, so it shouldn't exist" is the bad thinking that led GW to where it is now.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:44

Broken Loose: Dec 25, 2002; PROGRAM
A > - - - LR > > - - LL > - - -

Tekopo posted:

So has GW ever pre-released rules for any of their systems ever? I'm assuming that AI is gonna follow the standard pattern of not even spoiling anything that is going to be present within the box and then attempting to avoid any PDFs of the rules from actually hitting the web. In recent years there hasn't been a single boardgame/kickstarter that I've bought where I couldn't read the rules beforehand, and I'm constantly paranoid if a designer/publisher is unwilling to provide PDFs of their game rules before the game is actually out.

Not only will GW not pre-release their board game rules, they won't even release them. I had to piece together the rules of Betrayal at Calth from fanboy reviews.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:45

Business Gorillas: Mar 11, 2009

Tekopo posted:

So has GW ever pre-released rules for any of their systems ever? I'm assuming that AI is gonna follow the standard pattern of not even spoiling anything that is going to be present within the box and then attempting to avoid any PDFs of the rules from actually hitting the web. In recent years there hasn't been a single boardgame/kickstarter that I've bought where I couldn't read the rules beforehand, and I'm constantly paranoid if a designer/publisher is unwilling to provide PDFs of their game rules before the game is actually out.

iirc they released AoS rules but everyone thought they were a joke and decided to wait for the actual rules, since nobody could imagine anything being that stupid

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:45

Thirsty Dog: May 31, 2007

Business Gorillas posted:

did that frostgrave game ever pan out ot be something cool and good?

Probably best asking in the Frostgrave thread. Pretty sure it was good but needed some house rules to make it worthwhile.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:46

Ashcans: Jan 2, 2006; Let's do the space-time warp again!

Frostgrave is a good game that is improved with a little bit of rule tweaking. Mostly it is to improve the campaign system and prevent things getting too much out of whack as you play out multiple games.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:49

Jeb Bush 2012: Apr 4, 2007; A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

boom boom boom posted:

What if it turns out to be a solid, fun game with really good miniatures?

the anime stuff was bad enough but this is a Troll Too Far

e: if it actually did, though, they'd be releasing it into a much more unfavourable environment than if they re-released one of their other old games with good rules & miniatures

# ? Jan 15, 2016 18:53

Slimnoid: Sep 6, 2012; Does that mean I don't get the job?

boom boom boom posted:

Professor Cirno spotted.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:06

Icon Of Sin: Dec 26, 2008

boom boom boom posted:

What if it turns out to be a solid, fun game with really good miniatures?

This made me wonder if there are even any competitors to X-Wing currently. Are there any out there that are worth anything? Or is there finally going to be a GW vs Disney direct competition where there is one clear victor? wang supremacy

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:14

Jeb Bush 2012: Apr 4, 2007; A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

Icon Of Sin posted:

This made me wonder if there are even any competitors to X-Wing currently. Are there any out there that are worth anything? Or is there finally going to be a GW vs Disney direct competition where there is one clear victor? wang supremacy

Star Trek Attack Wing and D&D Attack Wing are supposed to be pretty similar I think. Dropfleet Commander is coming out, although that's going to aim at being a pretty different kind of spaceship game

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:20

Thundercracker: Jun 25, 2004; Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.; College Slice

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

the anime stuff was bad enough but this is a Troll Too Far

e: if it actually did, though, they'd be releasing it into a much more unfavourable environment than if they re-released one of their other old games with good rules & miniatures

I really don't understand GWs logic here. It'd be like releasing the first Guardians of the Galaxy in the same weekend as Star Wars. GoG is a better movie than TFA, but the latter would have eaten it alive no matter what.

And that's assuming AI is a game as good as X Wing. Which is beyond incredible (in the literal sense)

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:21

wdarkk: Oct 26, 2007; Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

Dropfleet Commander is coming out, although that's going to aim at being a pretty different kind of spaceship game

Dropfleet Commander is probably going to be more similar to Armada than X-Wing.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:25

guts and bolts: May 16, 2015; Have you heard the Good News?

Thundercracker posted:

GoG is a better movie than TFA

Whoa, whoa whoa. Did you think you'd get away with this?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:27

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Thundercracker posted:

I really don't understand GWs logic here. It'd be like releasing the first Guardians of the Galaxy in the same weekend as Star Wars. GoG is a better movie than TFA, but the latter would have eaten it alive no matter what.

And that's assuming AI is a game as good as X Wing. Which is beyond incredible (in the literal sense)

This isn't a movie release, they can't just wait for X-Wing to be "over".

guts and bolts posted:

Whoa, whoa whoa. Did you think you'd get away with this?

He's right. I like TFA but GoG is obviously better.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:28

Meme Poker Party: Sep 1, 2006; by Azathoth

You're not going to get away with this accurate statement Thundercracker!!!

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:28

Tekopo: Oct 24, 2008; When you see it, you'll shit yourself.

Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

Star Trek Attack Wing and D&D Attack Wing are supposed to be pretty similar I think. Dropfleet Commander is coming out, although that's going to aim at being a pretty different kind of spaceship game

STAW and D&DAW are a dumpster fire, the latter never really took off and the former was systematically destroyed with crappy expansions/lovely balancing.

Edit: don't buy wizkids stuff

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:35

Bistromatic: Oct 3, 2004; And turn the inner eye
To see its path...

Is WIngs of War still getting active releases?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:37

Ojetor: Aug 4, 2010; Return of the Sensei

Tekopo posted:

don't buy wizkids stuff

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:37

guts and bolts: May 16, 2015; Have you heard the Good News?

Y'all outchya drat minds on this Guardians versus TFA thing, just sayin'

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:40

Iron Crowned: May 6, 2003; by Hand Knit

guts and bolts posted:

Y'all outchya drat minds on this Guardians versus TFA thing, just sayin'

Stare Wars is bad, HTH

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:41

Saalkin: Jun 29, 2008

guts and bolts posted:

Y'all outchya drat minds on this Guardians versus TFA thing, just sayin'

Yeah I don't think so.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:42

Pash: Sep 10, 2009; The First of the Adorable Dead

guts and bolts posted:

Y'all outchya drat minds on this Guardians versus TFA thing, just sayin'

Star Wars was fun and full of nostalgia, but it loses to Guardians, which was a amazing movie.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:45

guts and bolts: May 16, 2015; Have you heard the Good News?

Iron Crowned posted:

Stare Wars is bad, HTH

I'm the extra "e" in Star Wars

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:46

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

Bistromatic posted:

Is WIngs of War still getting active releases?

They did a Kickstarter late last year to add the giant WW1 bombers to the game, and they ~~should be about to hit retail, if not already~~ are hitting retail in February

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:47

spectralent: Oct 1, 2014; Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

X-Wing isn't a spaceships game; it's a dogfighting game. Really it needs comparing to other planegames. As far as I know there are no mass market planegames out, though there's obviously several dozen weird historicals ones.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:55

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

spectralent posted:

X-Wing isn't a spaceships game; it's a dogfighting game. Really it needs comparing to other planegames. As far as I know there are no mass market planegames out, though there's obviously several dozen weird historicals ones.

X-Wing, Star Trek Attack Wing, Wings of War, and Mobile Frame Zero 002: Intercept Orbit, which should hit retail any day now

At the other end of the scale BFG would be competing with Firestorm Armada, Halo Fleet Battles, and more importantly Star Wars: Armada, and Dropfleet Commander

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 15, 2016

# ? Jan 15, 2016 20:01

Sir Teabag: Oct 26, 2007

Broken Loose posted:

I had to piece together the rules of Betrayal at Calth from fanboy reviews.

I tried to do this, but all I got from it was that "the tiles are high quality and the game is fun, but you're all buying it for cheaper 30K. I'll take two please!"
There appeared to be cards, chits, and two flippable board pieces (so four game boards total?) and beyond that I got nothin'.

boom boom boom posted:

That's nothing. The Miia from Monster Musume bodypillow was 800 bucks

So Slaneesh ended up in Japan.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 20:12

thespaceinvader: Mar 30, 2011; The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

NTRabbit posted:

X-Wing, Star Trek Attack Wing, Wings of War, and Mobile Frame Zero 002: Intercept Orbit, which should hit retail any day now

At the other end of the scale BFG would be competing with Firestorm Armada, Halo Fleet Battles, and more importantly Star Wars: Armada, and Dropfleet Commander

A version of BFG using the Armada ruleset and a version of short-range 40k space combat (I don't care if it's not realistic space combat) using the x-wing ruleset would be great.

Shame GW would never.

And even if they did I would not trust them with my money.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 20:14

Sydney Bottocks: Oct 15, 2004

Business Gorillas posted:

did that frostgrave game ever pan out ot be something cool and good?

Not sure how big it is in most wargaming circles, but didn't it sell out a couple of print runs? I seem to remember reading something about that.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 20:27

Kaiju Cage Match: Nov 5, 2012

Oathbound Throng? More like Oathbound Thong! :heysexy:

# ? Jan 15, 2016 20:27

Business Gorillas: Mar 11, 2009

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Oathbound Throng? More like Oathbound Thong!

what i'm feeling right now must be what native americans feel when white girls wear tribal headdresses

edit:

quote:

Fyreslayers are well-known throughout the realms as forces-for-hire; promise them enough gold, and their axes will be raised in your service. However, they are more than mere mercenaries searching for ur-gold - their word is an unbreakable bond, and when a Fyreslayer swears an oath to fight by your side, they will become as your own army.

what happens when your opponent offers them more ur-gold?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 20:31