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MothraAttack posted:A bit of PYF "rise of the Chinese dragon" "BRICS domination" or whatever. it is zerohedge. Someone could make a magical gold transmuter tomorrow and they would still say you should buy gold.
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:Next to no real impact, but Canada will take a beating and can cause some actual impact to the US economy. The worst part is this pushes oil prices down even further and makes places like Venezuela and Saudi Arabia more unstable. But otherwise, not much impact. Asia poo poo the bed in the late 90's and the U.S. economy didn't even blink.
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Tei posted:In software we have the term "technical debt" when you do something incorrectly, maybe you rush it, and then you will pay the debt you created along a long time, in mantenance, in poor service, with it breaking too often. I think the reason china is a dubious economy is that they have something similar, but I want to call it "ethic debt". Theres more cost for corruption than inefficiencies, your smart people get tired of tryiing to make your country a better place and move to something else or maybe somewhere else. Imho Over here the culture is instead of joining a company for a long period, you switch companies every 1-2 years so you don't have the deal with the consequences of technical debt.
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Why do Chinese billionaires keep going missing?
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Interesting that the second the CCP gets out of their own way, the markets stabilize and a modicum of confidence is restored. This is like watching a kid play his first videogame run through with the manual in hand, going "oh poo poo, I didn't know you could do that-- lemme try it".
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blueyedevil posted:Interesting that the second the CCP gets out of their own way, the markets stabilize and a modicum of confidence is restored. This is like watching a kid play his first videogame run through with the manual in hand, going "oh poo poo, I didn't know you could do that-- lemme try it". The CCP didn't get out of the way, they started buying up shares again in order to save face.
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cheesetriangles posted:Why do Chinese billionaires keep going missing? They either escape the country via laundered money and are in hiding abroad or have been taken by the government most likely. Why? no why
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Fojar38 posted:The CCP didn't get out of the way, they started buying up shares again in order to save face. This, I read that governement controlled funds went on a share buying frenzy today and thats what boosted the index. The CCP just reverted to their only effective strategy so far: throwing obscene amounts of money at the problem.
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Freezer posted:This, I read that governement controlled funds went on a share buying frenzy today and thats what boosted the index. The CCP just reverted to their only effective strategy so far: throwing obscene amounts of money at the problem. Around $500 billion last year. $108 billion in December alone. McGavin fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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 wassup guys  https://next.ft.com/content/3c8cf769-9f8f-32d8-a753-03037e61227b
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Aren't you still forbidden from selling x amount of stocks or something?
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I think the rule is that entities that own >1% of outstanding shares for a company are not allowed to sell any but I can't find a source for that.
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cheesetriangles posted:Aren't you still forbidden from selling x amount of stocks or something? Wasn't that the Circuit Breaker rule they just lifted?
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Rahu posted:I think the rule is that entities that own >1% of outstanding shares for a company are not allowed to sell any but I can't find a source for that. This is the one I was thinking of.
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CommieGIR posted:Wasn't that the Circuit Breaker rule they just lifted? They extended the part that says no major owners or officers can sell. e: God, what a great solution to the CEO pay problem in the US. Sure, you can boost stock prices all you want and give yourself huge bonuses denominated in shares but, hehe, you can't sell them.
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Murgos posted:e: God, what a great solution to the CEO pay problem in the US. Sure, you can boost stock prices all you want and give yourself huge bonuses denominated in shares but, hehe, you can't sell them. Nah, they'd just use their golden parachutes and flee like HP's ceo did.
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Dipped below 3000 now, and falling. Must burn some pension money stat.
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Freezer posted:Dipped below 3000 now, and falling. Must burn some pension money stat. Ban all trading - if you can't trade, it can't go down! 
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Freezer posted:Dipped below 3000 now, and falling. Must burn some pension money stat. It keeps bobbing back up but the overall trend is downward. Will be interesting to see if we get a fall below the previous circuit breaker thresholds.
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How long until china dies? They're kinda tenacious, all things considered.
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Freezer posted:Dipped below 3000 now, and falling. Must burn some pension money stat. 
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Shinjobi posted:How long until china dies? They're kinda tenacious, all things considered. China won't die. CCP rule will at some point if they can't do a 'good' economy.
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BCR posted:China won't die. CCP rule will at some point if they can't do a 'good' economy.
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I don't think I want see what happens when CCP is pushed to the brink.
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CommieGIR posted:Nah, they'd just use their golden parachutes and flee like HP's ceo did. Can't flee if you get disappeared to a private prison for a while.
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Mange Mite posted:Can't flee if you get disappeared to a private prison for a while. He was talking about the US 
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Suspiciously flat these past two days...
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Freezer posted:Suspiciously flat these past two days... Must be bottoming out, buy buy buy!
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Freezer posted:Suspiciously flat these past two days... I think closing below 3000 is a pretty big deal. The last time that happened in August is when the Chinese government took the gloves off on propping up their market.
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At -2.42 now. I'm wondering if they're going to save the cash mountain for friday, end the week with a feel good back to 3000 or something.
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BCR posted:At -2.42 now. You got the strategy right but the day wrong.
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From Bloomberg:quote:State funds may have entered to buy stocks after the Shanghai index fell below the lowest levels reached in last year’s rout, according to Galaxy Securities Co. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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What is the end goal once the government corners the market on all the stocks? 1) Do they just sit on them leading to a dead market? or 2) Do they trade them back and forth with themselves raising the prices until they can sell them at a profit (with Chinese characteristics) when confidence is restored?
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In GOP debate last night the issue of China imposing tariffs on goods imported from USA was brought up several times and used by some as a justification for imposing a tariff on Chinese goods. Various figures were thrown about, I think I remember hearing 35% but I'm not sure. It wouldn't surprise me if they did, but I'm curious what the actual numbers are and I haven't had the best of luck finding useful data. I'm fairly sure it's not just a flat tariff on all goods, at any rate. Any insight / resources goons can provide is appreciated.
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How much of the Chinese economy is goverment owned again? Also, I thought foreign investment in the Chinese Stock Market was basically zero and mostly dominated by the middle classes. So they get shafted, so what? Most of the economy is still under direct government control and not subject to market forces. So long as the Chinese cash reserves hold and they keep pumping that into the economy, is there really anything catastrophic that could actually happen here?
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ocrumsprug posted:What is the end goal once the government corners the market on all the stocks? 3) Just hold onto them until a new wave of foreign suckers believe buying Chinese stocks are viable
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fishmech posted:3) Just hold onto them until a new wave of foreign suckers believe buying Chinese stocks are viable The Shanghai-A is Chinese only no?
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