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Snacksmaniac posted:Doesn't fit. Will have to be Proxy Trick Jarrett You wouldn't steal someone's identity
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Hellsau posted:I was about to defend High Market, since gaining life equal to the toughness of a sacrificed creature at no additional mana cost is actually pretty good, but then I remembered that was Diamond Valley and that High Market gains 1 life and is worthless. The best was that horrific cube video on CFB a few months ago by I think Josh McClain where he scanned his P1P1 and confidently declared Archangel of Thune the best card in the pack without a doubt (I believe it included, among other things, Noble Hierarch and Recurring Nightmare). Even being exceedingly generous, it was somewhere around the 13th best card in the pack.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:The best was that horrific cube video on CFB a few months ago by I think Josh McClain where he scanned his P1P1 and confidently declared Archangel of Thune the best card in the pack without a doubt (I believe it included, among other things, Noble Hierarch and Recurring Nightmare). Even being exceedingly generous, it was somewhere around the 13th best card in the pack. I mean Archangel is incredibly powerful if the cards are in the draft. They aren't. If you've got Soul Warden, Soul's Attendant, Suture Priest, Auriok Champion, Serra Ascendant, Martyr of Sands, etc, and you just play Archangel of Thune, you've got yourself a sweet imitation Craterhood Behemoth. Also stuff like Spike Feeder life gain combo is a White/Green version of Splinter Twin, but god forbid there be a combo outside of the already strongest colors. There just doesn't appear to be a reason to have Archangel in the cube. Archangel is just one example of it, but there are so many worthless white cards that it's just shameful. Maybe there's a W/B lifegain/aristocrats/counters archetype that can go into the cube, but I have no idea how to construct a cube so what do I know.
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the people who design the MODO cube generally don't seem to know what makes cube fun Like, MDT's article about it was like "well green does stuff and should be ramp stuff, so we removed all the mana rocks to make sure green has a good identity!" 
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Anyone in the NOLA area? I'm going there in a few weeks for work, I'll be by the Louis Armstrong airport. Any store recommendations? Formats that are run Monday to Wednesday nights?
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Jan 15, 2016 20:46
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MiddleEastBeast posted:The best was that horrific cube video on CFB a few months ago by I think Josh McClain where he scanned his P1P1 and confidently declared Archangel of Thune the best card in the pack without a doubt (I believe it included, among other things, Noble Hierarch and Recurring Nightmare). Even being exceedingly generous, it was somewhere around the 13th best card in the pack.  I would take Nightmare, Hierarch, Looter, and Counterspell comfortably over Archangel. Maybe even Cursed Scroll or the dual. Lancelot fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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Jan 15, 2016 20:48
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Temple and Reflecting Pool are probably the only two cards in that pack worse than Archangel of Thune if we're talking P1P1.
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Jan 15, 2016 20:53
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Lancelot posted:
Ach Hans, my tables! Also I think I'd take any of those cards over the Archangel except maybe Gravecrawler (because black aggro is bad and not fun). Even Crusade and Student of Warfare are better in the only deck that would play Archangel. The Archangel costs a ton and does nothing! Though Josh did end up taking the Recurring Nightmare at the last possible second so at least he figured it out eventually.
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gwrtheyrn posted:If you just want a pretty even spread of the BFZ ones, i think you can still find fatpacks of oath for around $45, How many lands of each will be in the fat pack, and are they full art?
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Jan 15, 2016 21:00
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Shadow225 posted:How many lands of each will be in the fat pack, and are they full art? 80 lands, 16 of each type as full art plus everything else in the fat pack
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Where will the non full set wastes be? Precons?
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Molybdenum posted:Where will the non full set wastes be? Precons?
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Just wanted to ping in here with an interview I did with Ian Duke, the Development lead on Oath. I asked him some stuff about the upcoming set and some general questions about the state of Magic currently, and I think he gives some pretty great answers to the questions. http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/01/a-magic-developer-talks-oath-of-the-gatewatch-and.html
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Jan 15, 2016 21:28
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Lawnie posted:You wouldn't proxy someone's identity Took the liberty of fixing your post.
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Kunzelman posted:Just wanted to ping in here with an interview I did with Ian Duke, the Development lead on Oath. I asked him some stuff about the upcoming set and some general questions about the state of Magic currently, and I think he gives some pretty great answers to the questions. http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/01/a-magic-developer-talks-oath-of-the-gatewatch-and.html
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Serperoth posted:Took the liberty of fixing your post. posting with a sharpie itt
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Molybdenum posted:Anyone in the NOLA area? I'm going there in a few weeks for work, I'll be by the Louis Armstrong airport. +1 Gaming is probably your best bet for events M-W and close to MSY.
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ScarletBrother posted:+1 Gaming is probably your best bet for events M-W and close to MSY. Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
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Leonin arbiter is experiencing a spike, they're over $5 apiece now from a little under $2 for a long time. Possibly speculation from people thinking stoneforge could get unbanned, or also possibly a response to the eldrazi decks to counter eye of ugin.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Leonin arbiter is experiencing a spike, they're over $5 apiece now from a little under $2 for a long time. Possibly speculation from people thinking stoneforge could get unbanned, or also possibly a response to the eldrazi decks to counter eye of ugin. Didn't G/W Hatebears do decently well maybe a month ago? Maybe Hatebears is a real deck.
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Hellsau posted:Didn't G/W Hatebears do decently well maybe a month ago? Maybe Hatebears is a real deck. It's great in a meta of Tron, Amulet, and Eldrazi.
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suicidesteve posted:It's great in a meta of Tron, Amulet, and Eldrazi. Yeah it wasn't very good for a long time but in a very tron and amulet heavy meta it's actually pretty great. I never built it in paper but lately it seems like a strong choice and I'm sick of losing to tron with little kid abzan. 6-3 in Charlotte with 2 losses to tron where it felt like I didn't get play. The new flickerdrazi seems like a solid new addition to that deck though. Actually I have a rules question about that guy and arbiter: if my opponent pays the 2 to search, and in response to the opponent doing whatever they're going to do to search I flicker the arbiter, they have to pay 2 again since it's a "new" arbiter, correct? Fingers McLongDong fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Actually I have a rules question about that guy and arbiter: if my opponent pays the 2 to search, and in response to the opponent doing whatever they're going to do to search I flicker the arbiter, they have to pay 2 again since it's a "new" arbiter, correct? 1/1/2011 If there are multiple Leonin Arbiters on the battlefield, a player must pay {2} for each one before being able to search libraries that turn. If the flickered Arbiter is considered "new", then that ruling would seem to insinuate yes. You'd have to flicker in response to them making a search action, though, since that payment doesn't use the stack.
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Kyrosiris posted:1/1/2011 If there are multiple Leonin Arbiters on the battlefield, a player must pay {2} for each one before being able to search libraries that turn. They can only do it if they have priority so it would play like this: Either the dude pays before triggering or activating the search or does it while the search is on the stack while holding priority, then when he passes priority to you you flicker the arbiter and he gets a chance to pay again.
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TheLawinator posted:They can only do it if they have priority so it would play like this: Which seems good, my experience with that deck it seemed like it needed a mana sink of some kind when it runs out of gas, the mono-white version at least. Flickering arbiters or flickering Flickerwisps on someone's upkeep to continuously tax their land seems good. The deck usually runs like 6-7 colorless lands but usually you're saccing them so I don't know how feasible it is. Maybe a version with Knight of the Reliquary and life from the loam?
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That doesnt make sense to me. You get the library search trigger, then get the Leonin arbiter trigger, and if you bounce him its not like you're getting a new search trigger? I don't know that seems real sketchy to me.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:That doesnt make sense to me. You get the library search trigger, then get the Leonin arbiter trigger, and if you bounce him its not like you're getting a new search trigger? I don't know that seems real sketchy to me. Leonin Arbiter isn't a trigger. It grants each player a special action which doesn't use the stack (similar to unmorphing a creature or playing a land). At the time the search attempts to resolve, if there are any Arbiters on the field whose taxes have not been paid, you don't get to search, regardless of when that Arbiter entered the battlefield.
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Gotcha. If anyone ever pulled that on me before reading this I'd probably call a judge because it seems super weird.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:That doesnt make sense to me. You get the library search trigger, then get the Leonin arbiter trigger, and if you bounce him its not like you're getting a new search trigger? I don't know that seems real sketchy to me. Paying the arbiter is to allow you to search your library for the whole turn. If a new arbiter or the same arbiter is flickered it basically no longer remembers that you paid.
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cheetah7071 posted:Leonin Arbiter isn't a trigger. It grants each player a special action which doesn't use the stack (similar to unmorphing a creature or playing a land). At the time the search attempts to resolve, if there are any Arbiters on the field whose taxes have not been paid, you don't get to search, regardless of when that Arbiter entered the battlefield. So let me guess: there's gonna be some new televised or twitter drama (man this new embed function means we get to embed all these sweet tweets!) surrounding someone passing priority without paying for a cost while looking their opponent in the eyes.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Gotcha. If anyone ever pulled that on me before reading this I'd probably call a judge because it seems super weird. Given that it's not a trigger, you can technically "gotcha" people with Arbiter. It's not a trigger so it's not something you're responsible for and don't have to remind them. They crack a fetch, ask if it resolves, you say yes. They reach for the deck and you can stop them since they didn't pay and it's too late to pay because the fetch activation is technically allowed to resolve, unlike something like suppression field. Might come off as a bit scummy to some but at a big event you'd probably need to take advantage of it.
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Hellsau posted:Didn't G/W Hatebears do decently well maybe a month ago? Maybe Hatebears is a real deck. People betting on a stoneforge unban.
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mcmagic posted:People betting on a stoneforge unban. If that did happen in could see arbiter and thalia both going up to $10 each. Dunno if batterskull would spike since there's a bunch of GP promo ones out there.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:If that did happen in could see arbiter and thalia both going up to $10 each. Dunno if batterskull would spike since there's a bunch of GP promo ones out there. Batterskull is also often a 1-of with stoneforge too
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Okay so I'm apparently doing sealed tomorrow instead of draft for the first time ever, anyone have any tips for it?
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Fiend Computer posted:Okay so I'm apparently doing sealed tomorrow instead of draft for the first time ever, anyone have any tips for it? Play your bombs, its slower than draft would be, hope you open a playable pool
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Fiend Computer posted:Okay so I'm apparently doing sealed tomorrow instead of draft for the first time ever, anyone have any tips for it? Play bombs, treat your colorless stuff as an actual color splash. It's not that hard to get stuff to enable it with scions and stuff though, especially in sealed where you can likely play as many of those sources as you need. I mean technically you could just not open enough of them but there's a ton of em The big thing for me is that most archetypes from draft rarely work in sealed - you're usually just playing the colors with the best cards, not the best synergy. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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Terrible Horse posted:Play your bombs, its slower than draft would be, hope you open a playable pool This usually works, but I should post my cautionary tale of opening two Stormbreaths, a Chained to the Rocks, and a Temple of Triumph, along with maybe a half-dozen on-color playables at the Theros pre-release, then forcing RW and losing my rear end. Don't let bombs cloud your better judgment.
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Angry Grimace posted:The big thing for me is that most archetypes from draft rarely work in sealed - you're usually just playing the colors with the best cards, not the best synergy. Which should be a smaller issue in Oath than pure BFZ.
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