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Slowhanded posted:Yep, the UHD BD specs allow (in addition to a wider color gamut and the resolution bump) for an alternative to Gamma for luminance data, called SMPTE ST 2084. Gamma curves were based off CRT limitations decades ago and are quite outdated with regards to today's displays. The new spec has an ample headroom for future-proofing (10k nits) and uses an algorithm to avoid banding at any level of brightness while keeping the data 12-bit. Jesus Christ, 10k nits. I have sensitive eyes, I already worry about being blinded by stuff like the 4k nit TV that Sony was demonstrating at CES.
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Rastor posted:It turns out that "4K" itself is kind of dead as a format, the thing that is going to get the advertising and content push is the combination of 4K + HDR + HDMI 2.0 + HDCP 2.2. If the 4K set you are looking at doesn't have HDR and HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, don't bother with it. In the future there will be a "UHD Premium" sticker you can look out for -- for most people it's best to save up for a set with that sticker in the future. Is there a 4k TV from a major manufacturer that doesn't contain HDCP 2.2 or even HDMI 2.0? Even the LG EG9600 has Hdmi 2.0, (but not 2.0a). Why would you advocate saving for a TV that can decode HDR?
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sellouts posted:Is there a 4k TV from a major manufacturer that doesn't contain HDCP 2.2 or even HDMI 2.0? Every single UHD Blu-Ray that has been announced has 4K resolution, HDR encoding, and the larger color space. And the video streaming providers are adding HDR encoding as well; Amazon is streaming HDR encoded video and Sony introduced a HDR video service as well.
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Right. But is HDR noticeable? I contend it's really not, combined with the obvious issues of 2k intermediate processes that have been explained at length in this thread, waiting for either technology is silly. Buy a TV now if you need a TV now. Waiting for the next set of standards is a fool's errand. I mean you cite the Amazon HDR. Have you seen it? It's loving terrible and not worth waiting around for. Put another way: I think it's far better advice to wait for OLED prices to drop to a person's acceptable level vs waiting for a TV that has the standards you list. It's more noticeable and the spergs that care about it are likely looking at TVs that already have it. sellouts fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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sellouts posted:Right. But is HDR noticeable? I contend it's really not Say what? Have you even seen a dolby vision demo in person? Yes it is very noticeable and personally I'm more excited by it than by 4k. Unlike 4k, you can clearly see the difference from across the room. I'm not saying that it should be a requirement when buying a TV now, it'll be quite a long time before that content is commonplace.
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sellouts posted:Right. But is HDR noticeable? I contend it's really not, combined with the obvious issues of 2k intermediate processes that have been explained at length in this thread, waiting for either technology is silly. Buy a TV now if you need a TV now. Waiting for the next set of standards is a fool's errand. I don't think anybody is saying don't buy a TV now if you need a TV now. What I said is don't pay a premium to get 4K if you're not also getting the other features you will need to enjoy the content that's coming down the pipe. I stand by that advice.
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We're getting the point now where [LG OLEDs excepted] pretty much every decent tv over 40" is 4k anyway so it's not really worth harping on. The whole point of the UltraHD Premium badge is to create a new, more expensive class of TVs since the margin on "normal" ones is basically zero, kind of like the old THX badge [which Sony also decided to never bother with].
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6K USD for a 65" OLED? Tempting for my home but I think I will just stick with rebadged VIZO and get a LeTv for a sixth of the price. There probably is going to be quality differences but I think 4K hasn't hit mass market yet.
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6k is like a pretty solid start on a home theater room, not what you spend on just a tv. (Yes I know they can also be super expensive)
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n.. posted:Say what? Have you even seen a dolby vision demo in person? Yes it is very noticeable and personally I'm more excited by it than by 4k. Unlike 4k, you can clearly see the difference from across the room. Have you seen Dolby vision? It's certified on a handful of sets, almost all of which are not available in the wild. And not all studios are onboard for Dolby vision for the home. That and Dolby Atmos are really, really far away. If you're talking HDR and not full Dolby vision, yeah, the demos can look great. Have you seen the content Amazon is rolling out at HDR? It's little to no difference. I'm erring on it having a nice but smaller affect than true blacks and no bloom offered by oled. I don't think it's critical but if it is Samsung allowed the hu8550 to be updated to read HDR metadata via its oneconnect box. But life of pi is a hell of a demo and those HDR / ultra hd movie packs sure look good. qirex posted:We're getting the point now where [LG OLEDs excepted] pretty much every decent tv over 40" is 4k anyway so it's not really worth harping on. The whole point of the UltraHD Premium badge is to create a new, more expensive class of TVs since the margin on "normal" ones is basically zero, kind of like the old THX badge [which Sony also decided to never bother with]. Bingo! caberham posted:6K USD for a 65" OLED? Tempting for my home but I think I will just stick with rebadged VIZO and get a LeTv for a sixth of the price. There probably is going to be quality differences but I think 4K hasn't hit mass market yet. It's 4200 from an authorized internet dealer. If you're looking at that lg oled because it's 4K you're missing the point, no offense. There's a lot more going on there than just resolution. sellouts fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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sellouts posted:That and Dolby Atmos are really, really far away. Uh... what? I've had Atmos in my den since late 2014. I just watched Fury Road last night.
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Slowhanded posted:Uh... what? I've had Atmos in my den since late 2014. I just watched Fury Road last night. I have Atmos at home as well, but come on, the selection is poo poo. We only have a little over two dozen titles and for every Fury Road and John Wick, there's 2 Transformers: AoE or Jupiter Ascending. That and the fact that Atmos is still virtually nonexistent in theaters and now we have DTS:X competing with it.
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I mean it's always going to be poo poo selection - it's a niche of a niche. Doesn't mean it's not a thing you can put into your room today. The post was implying that he was waiting for it to be mass market, which it never will.
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sellouts posted:It's 4200 from an authorized internet dealer. If you're looking at that lg oled because it's 4K you're missing the point, no offense. There's a lot more going on there than just resolution. I have been skimming the thread and seems like OLED has better picture quality and it's preferable than generic 4k. Unfortunately I don't live in the US so I have limited options in procurement.
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Slowhanded posted:The 4K LG is literally the best consumer 65" display you can buy and the current model is completely compliant with forthcoming UHD BDs. That said, the jump to 4K is relatively minor compared to the differences you get with just OLED itself. If the premium is okay on your wallet, by all means go ahead, but you could do a lot of other (very fun) things with two or three grand (e.g., upgrading front speakers, Atmos/DTS-X setup, blow). Coolnezzz posted:It is! I live in a studio apartment with no garage or lockable outdoor storage and also happen to have a lot of tools so I have no where else to put the thing. The picture basically shows a third of my entire apartment with the front third taken up by my bed/dresser and the middle third for my desk/workspace. It does have a full kitchen and bathroom so I don't complain and it's inexpensive for the area. Oh, I am most definitely going for a 55, I can't afford a TV for as much as the 65s are, especially one that will burn out eventually and have hosed up colors. I'm probably gonna pull the trigger on the 1080p 55" because that extra grand could go toward a nice new PC, since I need to update that too. Or, you know, go into the rent pool. Or booze. Or all of the above. Either way, the 55" 1080p seems like a solid bet for now, maybe down the line when UHD becomes more prevalent I'll regret the decision, but by thenI'll probably have the cash to get a better TV and/or this one will have probablystarted having hosed up colors or whatever.
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I guess I'll ask in here. Can somebody recommend me a decent wall mount for a 43" that can doesn't sag and can easily be rotated to portrait? I bought one from Amazon with a ball joint but it's garbage. The ball got stuck and the TV leans forward like it's going to fall off. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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Monoprice's stands get generally very good reviews; I'd start there - unlike me, check your stud distance first to make sure it's compatible.
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Fuzz posted:Anyone know if LG or Samsung TVs support Plex? Plex's website says Samsung Smart TV's, Vizio Smart TV's and Smart TV's that use Opera TV support Plex. https://plex.tv/downloads
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I recently purchased a Sony BRAVIA KD43X8309CBU TV and have had a bit of trouble finding details of the best display settings to use. Can any help or point me in the right direction?
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sellouts posted:Have you seen Dolby vision? Yes. I work at a film studio and they visited us about a year ago to give the whole song and dance and show a demo. It's very good.
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Am I wrong in thinking that in a contest between LG 4K 65 inch va LG OLED 55 inch for the same price, the 65 is a better choice?
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Stumiester posted:Am I wrong in thinking that in a contest between LG 4K 65 inch va LG OLED 55 inch for the same price, the 65 is a better choice? Depends. Most people prefer OLED to LCD, even despite a lower res screen, especially since we won't have mass 4K content for a while.
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Does 10 inches along the diagonal matter to you over contrast and color reproduction? Are you planning to buy a UHD Bluray player this year alongside a good chunk of the UHD releases? If you said yes to either of those two, pick up the 65". If not, I'd go with the OLED in a heartbeat.
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sellouts posted:What panel did they use? It was on a vizio LCD. They weren't allowed to tell us at the time because it hadn't been announced yet but it was obvious from the shape and OSD menus.
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A lot of people complain about "blur" on the Vizio M Series. What would be a good few things to pop on a thumb drive and check out how I feel in store? Sports would be a great thing to test I imagine.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:A lot of people complain about "blur" on the Vizio M Series. What would be a good few things to pop on a thumb drive and check out how I feel in store? Sports would be a great thing to test I imagine. Hockey
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Most of the high end tvs will let you turn off the synthetic motion blur crap. My Sony even has a "football" mode which I assume helps, but I've just set mine to game mode and never touched it. Looks fine for games/sportsball/movies.
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veedubfreak posted:Most of the high end tvs will let you turn off the synthetic motion blur crap. Football mode is nice! It turns on the motion interpolation and brightens the screen. Just be sure to turn it off after the game.
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Endless Mike posted:Football mode is nice! It turns on the motion interpolation and brightens the screen. Just be sure to turn it off after the game. Yeah I definitely use football mode for sports. It's definitely wonky looking if you forget to turn it off though. Also it messes with the sound in a way I'm not super stoked on (makes crowd noise louder and announcers quieter for some reason).
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Does anyone have experience with the Samsung One Connect boxes? I am looking at the JS9000 and JS8500 televisions. Do the boxes have a way to attach or hang off the tv? I will likely be wall mounting the tv, and possibly having all the other AV equipment in a closet that is at or further than the 7 foot cord range of the Connect cable. Also, I see that the JS9000 requires the Connect Box (although both need the box to use HDMI), and some reviews note that since the processor is in the connect box, it gives some options for upgrades in the future. Is that really an possible option? Where can I check to see if the tv will pass 5.1 audio from HDMI through to the optical output? Finally, I don't have any experience with curved screens. How do the look when hung on the wall? I don't mean the picture, but how does the tv physically look with the curve projecting into the room slightly? This tv will be going in the basement in a very wide room, where there will be foot traffic between the tv and the couch. Is there any significant increase in risk of people catching the edge of the tv? Or are the curves typically not very significant in increasing how far away from the wall they sit?
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The one connect seems to be a real problem for integrated systems. They don't sell different cord lengths and there's no way to extend them. I have a bunch of One Connect Minis on the 7000 series, and I double-sided velcro them to the back of the TV. They barely fit. The full size box will not fit at all, so you'd end up needing an AV shelf below the TV somewhere. That kinda sucks. I wouldn't expect ANY upgrade potential given they won't even produce different length cords.
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If my budget is around $800 can I do better than this? Samsung-UN50JS7000-50-Inch-Ultra-Smart http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN50J...f4a7b61afa7717d
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I'm going to pull the trigger on a 60" Samsung JU7100. Great reviews on RTINGs and it's $1500 which is right around my price point. A bit much honestly, because I'm going to get an OLED whenever I move next, but, anyone suggest otherwise?
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50-55", don't care about 4k, don't game, will be mostly streaming from either a kodi system or netflix/amazon. Is Vizio E series still my best bet if 600ish is my budget?(I'd be thrilled to spend less though) I see Costco has this Samsung UN55J620DAFXZA discounted down to 549 it turns out so basically the same price as the 55" E-series. Samsung's site is way lighter on specs though unless I'm really dense, so I'm having trouble figuring out if they're really comparable. Ed; clarity. the yeti fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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Are there still super bowl sales? Gonna get a Samsung un65js8500 and it's 2k right now which is the lowest I've seen it. Just don't know if it's worth waiting for any sale.
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How does HDR compare to film capture and projection, are we talking similar or more latitude? How does this work since digital capture never came close to film range?
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Anyone have any experience with LG OLED TVs? I'm looking at http://www.lg.com/ca_en/tvs/lg-55EG9200-4k-oled-tv LG's OLED TVs have pretty good reviews, although I couldn't find a lot online for reviews of this particular set. The OLED models that I was able to look at in person (not those ones) looked pretty unbelievable terrorist ambulance fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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