Auspol January: I think that young Abbott would make a really good minister

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HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

Milky Moor posted:

On the other hand - and playing Devil's advocate because I handled this exact issue for Coles - I think it'd be difficult to find people of other races doing this. This poo poo is endemic and both Coles and Woolworths are going to huge lengths to stamp it out. Anyone who knows anything about the SEA region also knows that their baby formula products are absolute poo poo, too.

Really? You really think Wooly's is having a hard time finding people of other races buy 4 tins of baby food?

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open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

Even if the exporting is limited to Asian people that doesn't mean that all Asian people are buying to export.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 06:37

GoldStandardConure: Jun 11, 2010; I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow; Pillbug

Woolworths have just up and decided to stop delivering to me for whatever loving reason.

They didn't cancel my account, I can place orders and then the next day they just cancel them. When I contacted their customer support about this, they said there are multiple accounts with my address, which is why the order was cancelled. When I asked them how can we fix this, because at the time I was dependent on home deliveries for food as my doctors hadn't given me the all clear to drive yet, they never got back to me.

But I can drive again now so gently caress Woolworths.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 06:40

PaletteSwappedNinja: Jun 3, 2008; One Nation, Under God.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Apparently it will all come out tomorrow.

Guy's talking here, I'll wait for someone to summarise because reddit is unreadable:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/410n4q/i_am_outgoing_abc_technology_editor_nick_ross_ama/

# ? Jan 15, 2016 07:45

Helith: Nov 5, 2009; Basket of Adorables

My partner is in charge of the online store for a formula company here and most of their orders are coming from people with Chinese names at the moment. Most of those orders are legitimate and completely within the terms of service for their store.
Some of the orders are obviously from people attempting to bulk buy to sell on. poo poo like an order for every unit in a block coming at the same time with a slight variation in names and all paid for on the same credit card or multiple orders to the same address but to different names and with a variety of cards used. Or they try to manipulate the website code to enter Chinese delivery addresses which then get rejected because the delivery partner is Australia only. It's generally pretty obvious and those orders get declined and money returned.
A few people call or even visit his office to ask why their bulk order was cancelled and they've been pretty open about the fact that they want it to sell on to people in China. There is huge demand, especially for Toddler milks and allergy formulas made with soy or goat milks. A lot of people are making a lot of money off this. One girl was a uni student and was using the money to pay her fees.
At the moment they reckon about 75% of their sales are probably going to the Chinese grey market. Problem is that their production has been scaled to the Aus / NZ market so they're struggling to produce enough. Funny thing is, is that they operate in China and make the exact same products there under the same name, but it doesn't sell as well because even though it's a western company making it, Chinese consumers are still wary of any food produced on Chinese soil. Also NZ dairy has a really good reputation and is seen as better. The Netherlands part of the company are having the exact same issue because their dairy produce is seen in China as being of a high quality so is also being sold on there.

I suspect the guys at Woolworths have probably been swamped with orders and they've hosed up. Woolworths will likely have had a spike in orders coming in and some legit orders have got lost in the mix with fraudulent ones.
Or they're just incompetent. And possibly racist. We'll see.

That was a lot of words about formula milk.

Helith fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jan 15, 2016

# ? Jan 15, 2016 07:45

Starshark: Dec 22, 2005; Doctor Rope

It is interesting though. Capitalism - it's how we got to this.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 08:26

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Guy's talking here, I'll wait for someone to summarise because reddit is unreadable:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/410n4q/i_am_outgoing_abc_technology_editor_nick_ross_ama/

(Regarding a gag order)

quote:

In early March 2013 I was told by a senior ABC manager that ABC Management was expecting the Liberals to win the next election and that Malcolm Turnbull would be in charge of the ABC and that they didn't want to upset him. From this point on I documented everything.

After that I had articles held back (one wasn't published at all) and heavily pressured not to write anything on the matter.

On one occasion, four months before the election, with regards to this article which raised huge questions about the viability of the copper network I was told that "there was nothing wrong with the article per se" but that 'The NBN was dead and so there's no point in causing a fuss.'

I published it when I saw Emma Alberici had published hers right after the election. But it got buried and I only got social media traffic.

quote:

It's not like I was given a form that said "Gag order" on it. I was told not to upset pollies. I had articles held back. I was told instead to write an article about "why the NBN had failed"... 4 months before the election.

I said I would but didn't. When the media says things like that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Part of the reason I'm doing this is because we've another election coming up this year and, as a member of the public and tax payer, I don't want my ABC manipulating news according to a political party.

quote:

As I've now said elsewhere, after the initial meeting I decided to record subsequent meetings to protect myself. Lucky I did:-

I've literally got them on tape saying "the NBN is dead and so there's no point in making a fuss" four months before the election and using that as an excuse not to publish the copper article.

(When asked for a rough timeline)

quote:

Feb 2013: Published The vast differences between the NBN and the Coalition's alternative

Feb/March 2013: Article starts going epic viral. Two weeks later The Project uses it to grill Turnbull on air. For once he seems very uncomfortable in a media interview about the NBN.

A few days later: The Australian suddenly publishes two articles about me. One erroneously saying I'd been disciplined by the ABC. Another from an "expert" saying why my article was wrong (laughably bullshit).

Next day: Stephen Conroy slamming Mark Scott for "gagging me" on Jon Faine radio show

Later that day: I meet with senior ABC manager who tells me to keep quiet, go home, and that ABC is preparing for Liberal government etc. Also some questions from Media Watch about content of site.

Following Monday: Media Watch beat-up appears. It's all about me. I'd been told it was about NBN coverage in the media in general.

April: Write article on how Liberal/Turnbull claims about how price of internet under Libs will be cheaper is factually incorrect. Told not to publish it because of the political environment. Article is never published.

May: Complete my Copper Network article (it was actually done in an earlier version in March). Told there's "nothing wrong with it per se" but that "the NBN is dead and there's no point in causing a fuss"

July 2013: Diagnosed with stress and getting ill from it.

Election: Emma Alberici finally publishes her NBN article. I publish mine on Copper and Telehealth

Following months: Almost all requests for other media (TV radio) have vanished. Daily news conference calls involve me telling News team about NBN stuff but that I can't cover it and perhaps someone else might like to. Only Science Editor and Environment Editor ask why.

2014: Vertigan and Ergas "reviews" appear. Can't cover them.

2015: Waiting to be absorbed into main News Online team.

Around July: Told ABC Tech site is closing and I'd need to build a tech audience with the Business Section to keep working.

I contact unions, legal people and Comcare. I also blow the whistle on what happened to me. Internal investigation occurs. Eventually says nothing wrong.

Christmas 2015: My time to build an audience with is over. I've been let down by Whistle Blowing people, my councillor, boss, Heda of HR and job is basically untenable. Get offered almost a year's salary to leave (I thought they had no money for a tech editor). Tried not to snap their arm off.

That's Extremely basic. It also should probably have Senate Estimates in there but ultimately while I was talked about I had no input.

There's also some complaints about a 2013 Media Watch episode which he says was an attack piece on him designed to keep him in line

# ? Jan 15, 2016 08:41

RC Bandit: Sep 7, 2012; Hanson: It's Time; Grimey Drawer

I find it interesting that Blackmores share price has gone from $34.20 to $205.50 in exactly 1 year.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 08:47

Mr Chips: Jun 27, 2007; Whose arse do I have to blow smoke up to get rid of this baby?

Romeo Charlie posted:

I find it interesting that Blackmores share price has gone from $34.20 to $205.50 in exactly 1 year.

Have they become 6 times more profitable?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 08:53

Kegslayer: Jul 23, 2007

Doctor Spaceman posted:

(Regarding a gag order)

(When asked for a rough timeline)

There's also some complaints about a 2013 Media Watch episode which he says was an attack piece on him designed to keep him in line

I would have thought that Media Watch was pretty legit but that episode does look like a genuine attack piece when it quotes him out of context to prove their point. Pretty disappointing to hear that even the ABC is hosed.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 08:53

Helith: Nov 5, 2009; Basket of Adorables

Romeo Charlie posted:

I find it interesting that Blackmores share price has gone from $34.20 to $205.50 in exactly 1 year.

Yeah, bet you can't guess what they're going to start producing for which market!

# ? Jan 15, 2016 09:01

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

# ? Jan 15, 2016 09:09

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Ahahaha, Renai is throwing his "mate" under a bus.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 09:14

RC Bandit: Sep 7, 2012; Hanson: It's Time; Grimey Drawer

Mr Chips posted:

Have they become 6 times more profitable?

They've only had a 83% growth in their net profits, but their market value is over $1.5 billion.

Helith posted:

Yeah, bet you can't guess what they're going to start producing for which market!

Blackmores has already announced a 50:50 joint venture to enter Indonesia with Kalbe. They're expecting to launch into the Indonesia market this year.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 09:29

BurgerQuest: Mar 17, 2009; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Romeo Charlie posted:

They've only had a 83% growth in their net profits, but their market value is over $1.5 billion.

Blackmores has already announced a 50:50 joint venture to enter Indonesia with Kalbe. They're expecting to launch into the Indonesia market this year.

They'll do well, all my Indo business colleagues stock up on Blackmores specifically when they visit here. I don't even take a multivitamin :iiam:

# ? Jan 15, 2016 10:15

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

drat! it's time...ive finally found the courage to do what i know i should,to speak from my heart. in the upcoming election im voting Abbott. boats are an afront to my lord poseidon and i must speak out.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 10:23

Doctor Spaceman: Jul 6, 2010; "Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Version with links and full details here.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 10:26

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Wow looks like the ABC isn't just a left-wing mouthpiece, where's the :smug:

now??

# ? Jan 15, 2016 10:39

GrandTheftAutism: Dec 24, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Starshark posted:

It is interesting though. Capitalism - it's how we got to this.

I'm tempted to say "no it's communism" but then I remember China is basically communist in name only these days and the formula/milk scare is the result of capitalist idiocy + rear end in a top hat government who won't fix the problems inherent in their food supply.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 10:48

Starshark: Dec 22, 2005; Doctor Rope

ScreamingLlama posted:

I'm tempted to say "no it's communism" but then I remember China is basically communist in name only these days and the formula/milk scare is the result of capitalist idiocy + rear end in a top hat government who won't fix the problems inherent in their food supply.

LOL if you thought for a second China is communist these days. As the great Lord and Savior Zizek says, they're the perfect model of modern capitalism - business protected by government.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 11:01

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Recoome posted:

Wow looks like the ABC isn't just a left-wing mouthpiece, where's the now??

Unusually, catallaxy has been utterly silent a day into this! Never mind, one of their main Essendon supporters proves by awesome logic how unfair WADA's appeal is. Also, anti-vax phd's are totally ok otherwise it's censorship. I'm sure they'll get around to the ABC some day.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 11:23

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

ewe2 posted:

Unusually, catallaxy has been utterly silent a day into this! Never mind, one of their main Essendon supporters proves by awesome logic how unfair WADA's appeal is. Also, anti-vax phd's are totally ok otherwise it's censorship. I'm sure they'll get around to the ABC some day.

Why would you read catallaxy files?

# ? Jan 15, 2016 14:32

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Refer to my last answer to this question.

# ? Jan 15, 2016 19:31

Lid: Feb 18, 2005; And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...tors_picks=true

Moral panic 2016 - girls on instagram smoking weed "gambling with their lives" yes

# ? Jan 15, 2016 23:25

Amethyst: Mar 28, 2004; I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Lid posted:

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...tors_picks=true

Moral panic 2016 - girls on instagram smoking weed "gambling with their lives" yes

Strictly out of moral concern, News dot com dot au will now publish several images of topless young women doing drugs.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 00:13

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

Amethyst posted:

Strictly out of moral concern, News dot com dot au will now publish several images of topless young women doing drugs.

The only time to read news.com.au

# ? Jan 16, 2016 01:47

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

# ? Jan 16, 2016 02:15

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

A GAME that encourages violence against indigenous Australians has sparked outrage, with more than 20,000 people signing a Change.org petition to ban Survival Island 3 � Australia Story 3D in less than 24 hours.
The game was available from Apple�s App Store and Google Play since last month but has now been removed. It warned players, in the form of white men armed with bows and arrows, to �beware of Aborigines� and required them to shoot or beat indigenous people to death in order to earn points.

WARNING: Disturbing video and images below.

The game promised users an �unforgettable experience�.

Developer Kristina Fedenkova, explained: �Your goal is to survive. Beware of angry animals, especially if you don�t have any weapon. At nights, there is really dangerous, (sic) try to hide somewhere ... Hunt animals or grow plants � you have to eat something. You also have to fight with aboriginals (sic) � you invaded their home!�

Videos of the game were recently uploaded onto YouTube but many have since been taken down, shockingly they showed a player beating an Aboriginal man to death with an axe.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 03:38

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

so a factual retelling of the settlement of Australia is banned?

# ? Jan 16, 2016 03:58

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Laserface posted:

so a factual retelling of the settlement of Australia is banned?

That's disingenuous as poo poo.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 04:19

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

I'd play a tower defence game where the enemies were all European settlers.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 04:19

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

hooman posted:

That's disingenuous as poo poo.

Just more sweeping under the rug by the liberal government for the atrocities of the past mate.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 04:53

Urcher: Jun 16, 2006

I made the word cloud a week ago but didn't get around to posting it. Better late than never.

Word cloud for December:

Bonus word cloud for all of 2015:

2015: J F M A M J J A S O N D

2014: J F M A M J J A S O N D

2013: A M J J A S O N D

Highlights from last month's thread:

Laserface posted:

I am debating going on Centrelink while out of work because its significantly less than my previous one, but its work from home and I can at least do it because it's fun.

Throwing money at the issue to prevent hasn't worked. Just legalise it and turn drug prevention from a loss to a tricky season to find work and honestly I would rather be off work over xmas anyway. I have about 5 grand saved which I was hoping to use to pay for a very large international tech company who specialises in devices that just work.

offering 40K, 5 of 7 roster.

I dont blame them, because Im sure theres a reason, but it would be nice if my passport somehow identified me as 'not a racist' so that I could enjoy something.

Hooman posted:

Guys, I'm starting to realise they feed bullshit n aren't excepting it anymore n you lot cant handle it!!!!"

Help I can't stop, it's like the time and as such not required to leave the requisite distance"

EDIT: A traffic lane is usually 3.3-3.5m wide. A car can maximum be 2.5m (like most buses are) so a cyclist riding right at the time I fell down a redpill hole:

"Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't most of these guys on my comments abuse me for saying this as well"

Anidav posted:

I'm hoping Turdball porkbarrells a New start Increase with the utmost respect for human rights � nothing less will be shut down.

The Queensland Resources Council has condemned the warning as an "ill-conceived threat" based on questionable legality.

Three weeks ago 7.30 revealed that Percy Verrall and three other former and current coalminers have the skills to correctly identify the disease in regular checkups, a claim the union disputes.

"I have no access to electricity, and more to do with the utmost respect for human rights � nothing less will be verified in the forthcoming weeks."

The CFMEU's national president Andrew Vickers said he was "gutted" by the development.

"That in 2015 we are committed to take the necessary actions to ensure products in our supply chain after confirming to Fairfax Media they use Thai Union as they are one of you goons can post that Bill Leak article written by him on who the real world, there are billions of others who�ve had all those things all their coal-power-driven lives and they�re now distributing solar panels to the LDP:
Are you a corporation?
Yes?
Do whatever you want master
No?
Actually, gun control would cause more death than it prevents.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 05:21

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

It really only moved like 3 or 4 of those words around in that post of mine. Nice to finally make an appearance.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 06:27

Urcher: Jun 16, 2006

Laserface posted:

It really only moved like 3 or 4 of those words around in that post of mine. Nice to finally make an appearance.

My favourite ones are usually the ones that are straight quotes with a random subject change in the middle. Good luck buying Apple for $5k.

I generally just quote from the most recent few posters when I post the word cloud. I should automate it a bit to give people who don't post on the same schedule as me a chance.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 07:48

GrandTheftAutism: Dec 24, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

hooman posted:

That's disingenuous as poo poo.

Allow me.

Laserface posted:

so a factual retelling of the settlement of Australia is banned?

If you wanted a truly period-accurate representation of colonial Australia, you'd have Aboriginals chained up as humanoid livestock (they weren't legally classed as human until the late 1960s), Chinese gold miners being publicly assaulted, rabbits and foxes running rampant and little boys wearing dresses.

This game is just 'kill all coons' and has no educational value to speak of.

Moving on swiftly...

quote:

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has thrown his support behind the woman tipped to replace New South Wales Labor general secretary Jamie Clements.

Kaila Murnain, previously the assistant general secretary, has been appointed to the position in an interim capacity, while the party looks for someone to fill the role.

In a statement, Mr Shorten said: "She's not to be underestimated. She'll make a strong NSW general secretary."

Mr Clements bowed to pressure to resign on Thursday after details of sexual harassment allegations made by Stefanie Jones were published by News Corp, but has maintained his innocence.

Mr Shorten said Ms Murnain, 29, was incredibly hard-working, resilient, cool under pressure and capable of "ironing out issues" in the state branch.

I thought the name sounded familiar... when I looked at the article photo of Kaila Murnain I was like "pretty sure I went to school with her".

# ? Jan 16, 2016 09:27

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

EVIL BUDGET

# ? Jan 16, 2016 09:59

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Courtesy of the screams emanating from anti-Turnbull right-wingers, here is an overview of the election pork-barrel strategy. The screaming is about the access of disabled, women, ex-service people and Aboriginals to business funding for the employment of disabled, women, ex-service people and Aboriginals of course. I mean, money is for the good people after all.

Otherwise Turnbull is literally buying friends.

# ? Jan 16, 2016 10:36

SadisTech: Jun 26, 2013; Clem.

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GrandTheftAutism: Dec 24, 2013; by Fluffdaddy

Why is Turnbull constantly being portrayed wearing a tin can top hat? Am I missing something here?

# ? Jan 16, 2016 17:02

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