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Thundercracker posted:TFA is basically the most conservative movie ever. It's competent, but takes almost no risks. GoG had set-pieces like inside a giant space head and ended the climax with a dance battle . Yeah, everyone knows why they did it and I think it's reasonable and good to acknowledge what they did. Having built trust again, we can hope they take more risks in the following movies.
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LordAba posted:Nope, nobody played the game. Nobody. I don't know why people got so excited about it. Like, people played epic and people played BFG. Nobody played AI. Which is why it crashed and burned. Did you find this on a related link from a support group for socially awkward hitler youth or something? 
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Icon Of Sin posted:Did you find this on a related link from a support group for socially awkward hitler youth or something? I think I'm gonna play X-Wing and the upcoming Mantic's Walking Dead game. Big, popular franchises that don't attract quite so many people who seem kind of nazi'ish as Warhammer 40k and Historical.
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Chill la Chill posted:Yeah, everyone knows why they did it and I think it's reasonable and good to acknowledge what they did. Having built trust again, we can hope they take more risks in the following movies. hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
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I've posted plenty of TFA criticisms on SA, in this thread, and elsewhere, so I'm not trying to come off like a TFA apologist, but even trading on nostalgia as much as it did it was still a better movie than Guardians of the Galaxy, which I also liked while concurrently viewing it as comedically overrated. The dance battle is the height of it all - it's a gag gimmick that is not terrible but isn't like this ~subversive take~ on ~superhero movie finales.~ It's just fun. Kinda. GotG didn't break as much new ground as you think it did, especially if your main complaint with TFA is "it was formulaic." Also, the acting was an order of magnitude better in TFA than it was in GotG, and I say this as an unabashed fanboy of Chris Pratt dating back to Season 1 of Parks and Recreation (which was terrible by the way, that show becomes amazing from Season 2 on but holy Christ the first season). When a WWE superstar not named "The Rock" is the second strongest performance in your movie, something has perhaps gone awry. Again, I really like GotG! I just like TFA more, man. It's cool if you don't agree with me.
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TFA was fun but Fury Road was fun and art. It also has to pay its nostalgia tax, but goddamn did it do a better job of it.
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So I was thinking what really angered me with AOS today. Honestly, in the end it has to be the really really dumb names. Steamhead Duardian , Skeletron Deathrattler, Stormfront Domingos... I mean c'mon. It actually took me 4 tries to google how to spell the names as I was writing this post. I really feel all the names are basically the only leftover syllables that vaguely sounded fantasyish. I really have no doubt that one of the main reasons for AoS is to rebrand all the armies into copyrightable names. But the way they went about it is so so so cynical and contemptuous. Smaller indie games have been forgiven when they have to change something due to legal reasons. You just have to be transparent about your reasons. But the Games Workshop tried to sneak it past its fanbase like it was some artistic plan all along. It's like they think no one would figure it out because it's the 90's and no one has reliable internet. At this point, I really have to question the self-respect of anyone who still plays 40k because just on every conceivable level Games Workshop is trying to deceive and con you. It's not even a really good con, but they somehow succeed through silence and nerds giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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All of the name changes seem like they dumped it all on some intern who just changed a single vowel or made everything really retarded entirely out of spite
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It says a lot about how much people love GotG that this is the first time I've ever seen someone say that TFA was a better movie.
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Business Gorillas posted:All of the name changes seem like they dumped it all on some intern who just changed a single vowel or made everything really retarded entirely out of spite Oll uf tha naem chaenges seam lyke thee dumbped eet oll an sum inturn hoo jast chainged eh syngle vowl ore maed evereething rally reatarded entierlee ought ov speyete. FTFY. E: Gaunts Ghosts original fanfic DO NOT STEAL
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I'm saying this even though TFA still has momentum behind it and is fresher in people's minds.
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moths posted:TFA was fun but Fury Road was fun and art. While I think Fury Road is overrated (for reasons that would involve a dumb effortpost), I also agree with you. It trades on some of the nostalgia that made Mad Max and The Road Warrior really great films, but it does it in a much less exploitative way. I happen to disagree with the popular opinion that Fury Road is this, like, hyper-feminist film that transcends genre (it's still an action movie and it can still be really dumb), but it's better than The Force Awakens in no small part because of the exact point you brought up. Art, though, I dunno, man
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I dislike the use of the word "art" as a measure of some form of transcendental quality rather than as a word to describe a category of thing. I say this as an artist.
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anti_strunt posted:Ancient agricultural communities were existentially dependent upon forces of nature over which they had no control. A common interpretations of be use of religious statuary is that it served to make a particular cosmic force seem tangible, often in anthropomorphic form, granting the worshipper relief from anxiety by the illusion of control created by the successful containment of the transcendent.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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In the year 2016, a movie with the title "Mad Max" received an Academy Award nomination for Best Picture.
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Chill la Chill posted:Yeah, everyone knows why they did it and I think it's reasonable and good to acknowledge what they did. Having built trust again, we can hope they take literally any risks in the following movies. fixed
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Thundercracker posted:At this point, I really have to question the self-respect of anyone who still plays 40k because just on every conceivable level Games Workshop is trying to deceive and con you. It's not even a really good con, but they somehow succeed through silence and nerds giving them the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, I can't help but think those ancient dolls were just some weirdos' fetish figures instead of whatever importance anthropologists give to them.
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guts and bolts posted:I happen to disagree with the popular opinion that Fury Road is this, like, hyper-feminist film that transcends genre (it's still an action movie and it can still be really dumb) You have the correct opinion. I thought about it for a while when Fury Road came out, and I'd say the most you can say about Fury Road's "feminism" is that it's only hyper-feminist by contrast with most other movies. In an absolute sense, it merely manages to be acceptably feminist. In any case, I think the movie is anti-authoritarian first, environmentalist second, and feminist third. (Well, it's really an action movie first.) There are also a few points where I said "wait, what?" but luckily they were pretty minor compared to other movies. All in all Fury Road was pretty loving great, but still imperfect. I think part of why people treat Fury Road as the best movie (excuse me, "film"  ) ever is how dreadful other movies usually are, especially action movies.T.G. Xarbala posted:I dislike the use of the word "art" as a measure of some form of transcendental quality rather than as a word to describe a category of thing. I usually use "art" to mean "something that prompts analysis of its 'artistic'* merits". However, that doesn't make the "art" any good. * Feel free to substitute this with any five dollar word you like, e.g. "philosophical", "intellectual", "emotional", etc.
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Chill la Chill posted:We goons gave a hotdog alabama man $15k sooo... Vent hoods aren't cheap 
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Chill la Chill posted:We goons gave a hotdog alabama man $15k sooo... Actually there's a pretty cool theory that those dolls were sculpted by pregnant women themselves, sorta sculpting what they saw when they looked down at themselves. http://www.kbcc.cuny.edu/academicdepartments/art/Documents/durantaspaleolithicvenus.pdf NWS for some titty in a journal article.
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So the movie with a running subtext of how toxic masculinity reduced not only the wives, but also all of the war boys, into things and possessions of a literal patriarch figure, with the only real escape from the situation being to bring fundamental societal change to the kingdom Joe carved out for himself isn't really that feminist?  I think you folks may be confusing feminism with something else.
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Pyrolocutus posted:Actually there's a pretty cool theory that those dolls were sculpted by pregnant women themselves, sorta sculpting what they saw when they looked down at themselves. Any theory as to what it was is just making poo poo up, so you can basically pick whichever one you like the most.
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Humanity has always been dumb and weird. And when we're smart we're just trying to think of a better or more efficient way to be dumb and weird.
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I mean, how else can you explain people who want to gently caress aliens, also robots.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:I mean, how else can you explain people who want to gently caress aliens, also robots. Look man, robots aren't gonna gently caress themselves, at least not for a good long while yet.
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So UK main opposition party is floating banning dividends for businesses that don't pay a living wage http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/16/jeremy-corbyn-to-confront-big-business-over-living-wage If this came in would GW stock take a plunge?
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Vitamin P posted:So UK main opposition party is floating banning dividends for businesses that don't pay a living wage http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/16/jeremy-corbyn-to-confront-big-business-over-living-wage The stock would fall if they couldn't pay a dividend anymore, so they'd have to cut costs some other way to maintain it, or come up with some contract bullshittery that lets them pay their employees below a living wage because they're not employees, they're independent contractors, or some other neo Victorian-era crap that Tories everywhere have been trying to bring back.
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Thundercracker posted:Like Guardians of the Galaxy had almost no pre-established movie fanbase, and managed to wow everyone. That's incredibly hard to do these days. While TFA basically banked on nostalgia for 80% of its script. There's just no comparison. So they go the theater to see (jesus gently caress) Hercules and it is only in 3D, which their old eyeballs can't handle. So my father somehow convinces my mother to see GoTG, how I have no idea, and she comes out of the theater going holy gently caress that raccoon was so loving awesome, great movie. To me, the fact it won over my stubborn as gently caress 63 year old mother blew my mind. That's a good film right there.
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The Fyreslayer theme song Yes, it's what you think it is, but that doesn't make it any less true.
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Some X-Wing sized Valkyrie, Avenger etc. minis would be cool but I wouldn't buy a $200 GW board game for them.
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Dulkor posted:So the movie with a running subtext of how toxic masculinity reduced not only the wives, but also all of the war boys, into things and possessions of a literal patriarch figure, with the only real escape from the situation being to bring fundamental societal change to the kingdom Joe carved out for himself isn't really that feminist? What? It is totally the opposite! Some nice guy just wants to have a child or two, only all the woman go with some "rear end in a top hat" charming him with there feminine ways.
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boom boom boom posted:I think I'm gonna play X-Wing and the upcoming Mantic's Walking Dead game. Big, popular franchises that don't attract quite so many people who seem kind of nazi'ish as Warhammer 40k and Historical. It's kinda funny how many no-poo poo fascists I see who idolize 40k. I think it's because the satire aspects are so weak in it- it's really inoffensive to the fascists it tries to lampoon- after all, the fascism is Entirely Correct, Entirely Necessary, and Way Cool in GW's universes. And yeah, i'm just not sure why anybody would want to play Aeronautica. There are better sim dogfighters, and vastly better casual dogfighters. I'm not even sure if there's any distinctly 40k planes in any case(I also don't think 40k's space combat is distinctive or interesting in the slightest, either.).
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guts and bolts posted:Art, though, I dunno, man I italicized "art" because it's a super-loaded, subjective term. The shots were gorgeous, there was a core message, and the score was amazing. Miller made a lot of great choices, and even people who aren't normally film people were talking about "center framing" and how he used the soundtrack. I don't think anyone can 100% say when a thing is (or isn't) art, but it's hard to argue Fury Road wasn't more artistic than TFA. At the very least, FR was a better crafted film.
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Dulkor posted:So the movie with a running subtext of how toxic masculinity reduced not only the wives, but also all of the war boys, into things and possessions of a literal patriarch figure, with the only real escape from the situation being to bring fundamental societal change to the kingdom Joe carved out for himself isn't really that feminist? What the gently caress thread am I even in anymore
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https://twitter.com/WarhammerGC/status/688286291419504641 "Pretty much the same" is apparently 3-4mm taller, and bigger all around
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Rulebook Heavily posted:What the gently caress thread am I even in anymore CD IS LEAKING!!!!
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NTRabbit posted:https://twitter.com/WarhammerGC/status/688286291419504641 Yep, a Fryslayer off the base is about the same as an old Dorf on the base. 
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