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rabidsquid posted:He probably just bought them to play with, actually. Why do you have such a hate boner for MTG finance?? 250x Resto 1x Battle of Wits yeah man that makes sense
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Irony Be My Shield posted:We must avoid printing fairly costed cards in order to accomodate broken mana acceleration lands It actually might be decent if they decided to print some incremental advantage again instead of constant haymakers.
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Remember when being colorless (or rather, costing only generic mana) meant a card would in theory be relatively less powerful, instead of being unambiguously the most powerful play you could make at a certain point on the curve? Pepperidge Karn remembers.
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There are more powerful 7+ drops than Karn, they just required colored mana usually in spades. Cruel Ultimatum comes to mind. Karn is so strong because you can play him turn 3-4 off of entirely colorless mana. If he required 2+ colored mana or Tron lands weren't a thing, he would be mediocre at best.
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JerryLee posted:Remember when being colorless (or rather, costing only generic mana) meant a card would in theory be relatively less powerful, instead of being unambiguously the most powerful play you could make at a certain point on the curve?
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This is actually a fair point, haven't past arguments for keeping cheap blue card draw/selection banned in Modern (Ponder, Preordain etc.) been "it will just make Twin better!"? With Twin out of the way and the "best deck with blue" spot up for grabs, I wonder if those cards get looked at for possible un-bans in the future. Probably not
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C-Euro posted:This is actually a fair point, haven't past arguments for keeping cheap blue card draw/selection banned in Modern (Ponder, Preordain etc.) been "it will just make Twin better!"? With Twin out of the way and the "best deck with blue" spot up for grabs, I wonder if those cards get looked at for possible un-bans in the future. It's also the argument everyone puts out there for why Force can't be legal. You heard it here first, folks. Force of Will reprint in SoI! Sell yours now!
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Yeah, I'm a salty Twin investor. I had Pod in standard, so was sad when it went into Modern and then got banned. Then DRS got the axe after I got 4 and was going to make Jund. Blaaaah! Think there will be a U/R Burn with Monastery Swiftspear/Stormchaser Mage/Delver? That's about all I got to make, right now.
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Jan 16, 2016 20:43
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First prerelease went 1-1-1, started off as Ubr which was... poor. Switched R3 for UG and that worked much better. Still happy enough
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Jan 16, 2016 20:45
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Tron lands aren't bad when you can't consistently hit them on T3/T4. Ancient Stirrings (which can also grab threats) and Expedition Map seem like bigger culprits than the lands themselves.
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All of the cheap card filtering spells will just go in a Young Pyromancer deck, they won't ever be available to benefit control.
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Frozen_flame posted:First prerelease went 1-1-1, started off as Ubr which was... poor. Switched R3 for UG and that worked much better. Still happy enough I see 2 cards you shouldn't have been playing in your sealed deck. 1-1-1 indeed. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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rabidsquid posted:All of the cheap card filtering spells will just go in a Young Pyromancer deck, they won't ever be available to benefit control. Yeah after posting that I realized they'd go into Storm too, and I doubt Wizards wants to see that deck back in tier 1. Alas!
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New cards have successfully enabled the Grixis Control deck to exist, so I think they're heading in the right direction.
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I built a deck  It's okay I guess.
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Count Bleck posted:I built a deck Twin really was holding a lot of decks back out of Modern
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https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/688247164045103104 I didn't think they'd actually admit this, but hey!
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If they are so opposed to the idea of Modern going a year without a significant shake up, why not just make it rotate instead 
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Opened a terrible pool which gave me the feelbads. Only 2 or 3 flying bodies, 1 Wastes, 2 Holdout Settlments and 3 GODDAM THOUGH-KNOT SEERS. Round 1 I played all 3 Though-Knot Seers and ended the game with all 3 in my hand with no Colorless Mana despite having 4 or 5 sources that produce it. This sealed format is garbage.
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Balon posted:Opened a terrible pool which gave me the feelbads. Only 2 or 3 flying bodies, 1 Wastes, 2 Holdout Settlments and 3 GODDAM THOUGH-KNOT SEERS. Yeah that's uh real tragic You interested in selling those?
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Ciprian Maricon posted:If they are so opposed to the idea of Modern going a year without a significant shake up, why not just make it rotate instead Also, playing 3 cards of a color with only 4-5 sources of that color is asking for trouble. There's a reason there are no common {C} cards, but instead cards with activated {C} abilities.
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Seems to be a lot of folks with creative interpretations of words like "rotation" and "interactive".
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Aaron Forsythe replaced his previous tweet with this one: https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/688462590297571329
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sarmhan posted:Because that's not what modern is at all? You're basically telling them to recreate extended. It's a more transparent and palatable way to force change on a regular basis as opposed to the current strategy of "Ban something"
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Ciprian Maricon posted:It's a more transparent and palatable way to force change on a regular basis as opposed to the current strategy of "Ban something" Extended was extraordinarily unpopular outside of PTQ/PT season- people hated investing into another rotating format alongside standard. People are really overreacting to the ban as well. From a financial perspective, everything outside of the 12 combo cards is unlikely to drop outside of the post-ban panic. People are acting like Wizards just threw dart boards and landed on twin. Sarmhan fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jan 16, 2016 |
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sarmhan posted:Aaron Forsythe replaced his previous tweet with this one: I have to imagine they're getting a ton of blowback over the Twin ban, and I can't say it's not entirely undeserved. Also LMAO at Modern being diverse -- fun is debatable
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sarmhan posted:Did you miss the entire reason modern was created and extended was retired? I know, I'm arguing that forcing the format to change on a regular schedule via bannings is really dumb. If you are just that intent on forcing your non-rotating format to change. just let it rotate instead, people can be ready for it, and aren't frustrated or incapable of playing the format when a banning catches them off guard. Investing in a format where constant bannings isn't much better than a format that rotates.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:I know, I'm arguing that forcing the format to change on a regular schedule via bannings is really dumb. If you are just that intent on forcing your non-rotating format to change. just let it rotate instead, people can be ready for it, and aren't frustrated or incapable of playing the format when a banning catches them off guard. Its apparently not a big deal to wotc that people should invest a few grand in a deck that might become unplayable edit: I am not arguing poo poo shouldn't be banned because its expensive, but the format isn't affordable and it's also unpredictable what might eat a ban.
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rabidsquid posted:Its apparently not a big deal to wotc that people should invest a few grand in a deck that might become unplayable
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Ciprian Maricon posted:I know, I'm arguing that forcing the format to change on a regular schedule via bannings is really dumb. If you are just that intent on forcing your non-rotating format to change. just let it rotate instead, people can be ready for it, and aren't frustrated or incapable of playing the format when a banning catches them off guard. Or, and this is going to sound crazy, print good poo poo in standard so it finds it's way into Modern
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sarmhan posted:Well known worthless cards like scalding tarn, snapcaster mage, and steam vents. It's not like people got their decks set on fire. True. This is the only deck that has ever been banned.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Or, and this is going to sound crazy, print good poo poo in standard so it finds it's way into Modern   OK
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rabidsquid posted:True. This is the only deck that has ever been banned. Most bans don't result in hundreds of dollars of cards becoming worthless overnight. It didn't happen with Birthing Pod, DRS, Bloodbraid Elf, Seething Song, etc, etc, and etc. A ton of Modern's value is in mana bases and powerful cards that find homes in many decks.
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LSV and Josh Utter Leyton played 2hg at my shop. I was in individual sealed so I didn't get to play them. My sealed pool was a loving nightmare and I'm gonna post it in the limited thread to see if anyone can make something that isn't terrible with it.
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Seems good.  That Oath of Jace value, man.
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mcmagic posted:I see 2 cards you shouldn't have been playing in your sealed deck. 1-1-1 indeed. Well gently caress you I did and had more fun for it.
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Tron is $1200, 600 tix online. How do people start playing modern...
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pointsofdata posted:Tron is $1200, 600 tix online. There's 2 ways. Already have the cards or buy the cards in the 3 day time frame between a new deck being discovered and everything in it tripling in price.
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