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ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Get a proper set of winters.

Find a shop that's Tirerack.com friendly, order a set of General Tire Arctic Altimaxes, be happy.

If you have a good relationship with a shop already, they might be okay with you bringing in a set of tires from the internet, that's what I did a couple of years ago in Saskatoon.

\/\/\/ Agreed. Unfortunately, southern Onterrible hates studs so I took a bit of a hit when I sold mine here. Still, the buyer seemed like a solid guy and I'm happy he'll be able to drive his bimmer through the grey, grey winter.

ExecuDork fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Jan 18, 2016

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Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Yeah the Arctic Altimax is where it's at. Especially studded.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


And they are on sale for $72 CDN at Canadian Tire done deal thanks guys!

e. hahaha price jumps pretty dramatically when I picked my size but still 25% off I guess so

Bilirubin fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Jan 17, 2016

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

BRASIL HEXA
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I'm moving to Calgary later in the year and am I understanding it correctly that the government of Alberta expects me, a 30 year old man, to get someone to babysit me every time I want to drive a car for an entire year before I can get a proper driving licence?

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Eau de MacGowan posted:

I'm moving to Calgary later in the year and am I understanding it correctly that the government of Alberta expects me, a 30 year old man, to get someone to babysit me every time I want to drive a car for an entire year before I can get a proper driving licence?

First, where are you coming from, and second, do you have an existing driver's license?

If you don't already have your license, yeah, you need to go through the whole GDL procedure.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


A little bit of a stalking suggests japan, which has a reciprocal licensing agreement with alberta.

Barring that, you can do what the rest of the immigrants here do, and buy a pakistan drivers license, do a safety course, take a test, and get a full alberta license.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Thanks for all the concern gents. I'm 100% fine, because I almost was at a stop before flopping the truck.

The trailer is a tri axle stainless. I was told they're around 250k new. Unfortunately the company's insurance is a 100,000 deductible for at fault incidents. On the plus side my company is awesome and while they're not happy about it, everyone who asks about it asks if I'm OK first. They haven't even alluded to me being at fault. I did have to go get a piss test and breathalizer and they asked if they could check my phone history to see if I was on the phone (I volunteered)

Not sure if I have mentioned it but this was basically my first accident ever, in any vehicle save for a couple low speed merging fender benders.

The other vehicle didn't stop. I'm pretty sure he was spooked by my vehicle, spooked by the edge of the road, held his vehicle straight and hoped for the best. Likely didn't even check his mirror after. It was on a private oilfield road so not built to the same widths as a public hwy.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

The worst thing about those off roads is that when they're plowed in the middle of winter its impossible to tell where the edge is so everyone just hugs the middle. There's been a couple of times where I've misread where the edge of the road was on some logging roads and my car just gets slowly sucked out.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


1500quidporsche posted:

The worst thing about those off roads is that when they're plowed in the middle of winter its impossible to tell where the edge is so everyone just hugs the middle. There's been a couple of times where I've misread where the edge of the road was on some logging roads and my car just gets slowly sucked out.

If you think the worst thing is when they're plowed, you should see them try to guess where they are and hope for the best when they're not.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Glad no one got hurt and work is taking it as well as they seem to be.

Just a quick followup: These General Arctic Altimaxes are pretty sweet tires, thanks for the recommendations! I figure if they are good for Saskatoon, which has literally the worst winter road conditions of any major urban center I have lived in, they should do me well enough in our tropical chinook conditions.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
I'm glad you like them!

SD 135 On the Ice by Martin Brummell, on Flickr
My bimmer - RWD, more power than I should really be trusted with, and wearing those tires - on the frozen surface of the South Saskatchewan River. Those tires are good for more than just terrible urban conditions, they're great for anything wintery.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Nice! Whereas I will try to stay off rivers, I will be heading to Lake Louise for skiing on Thursday so I'll give them a proper winter baptism.

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

I've got a weird hankering to go ice fishing. Anyone else?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Oh she's a fuckin scorcher out there today, boys. -5*c and sunny, t-shirt weather.

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

gently caress yeah, walking around Airdrie in a light vest crew.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

ExecuDork posted:

I'm glad you like them!

SD 135 On the Ice by Martin Brummell, on Flickr
My bimmer - RWD, more power than I should really be trusted with, and wearing those tires - on the frozen surface of the South Saskatchewan River. Those tires are good for more than just terrible urban conditions, they're great for anything wintery.

The Calgary Sports Car Club is also home to some pretty sweet Ice Rallycross. Wish I could go out this year.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

BRASIL HEXA
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MrChips posted:

First, where are you coming from, and second, do you have an existing driver's license?

If you don't already have your license, yeah, you need to go through the whole GDL procedure.

Powershift posted:

A little bit of a stalking suggests japan, which has a reciprocal licensing agreement with alberta.

Barring that, you can do what the rest of the immigrants here do, and buy a pakistan drivers license, do a safety course, take a test, and get a full alberta license.

I've been living in Japan, yeah, where the public transport is so good I let my UK license expire two years ago. I'm seeing if I can't get it renewed before I head out to Canada, seems like the best solution. Thanks for the advice. Back to prowling kijiji.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Do yourself a favor and check on insurance before you buy a car.

Not being licensed for 2 years could really bite you in the rear end and being a foriegner won't help matters either. Also try to get letters from your previous insurance companies stating that you were "Claim Free" (assuming you were of course).

Assuming you are a 20 something single male, prepare to feel like are are being anally violated.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Yeah, insurance in Alberta is private, which means a wide range of insurace companies competing for your old people's business. The worst insurance rates are for inexperienced, young (under 25 get hosed, 25-30 groped), male, single drivers.

Browse Kijiji and throw the details - make / model / year / major options and trim levels - at a few websites that help you find insurance rates. Sometimes some cars are surprisingly cheap or expensive to insure, or there are options to consider (like comprehensive - don't get comprehensive coverage unless you're driving a really special car) that can push your rates around.

What kind of budget are you thinking of? For the car, and for the annual running costs (insurance & fuel are the big ones).

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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I was thinking of dropping $20k or so for a used car, looking primarily at SUVs or crossovers, something with 4WD. Neither I or my wife have much experience driving on ice, let alone a Canadian winter, and I want the added safety even if it costs more to run. In my heart of hearts I want to go mental and get a mustang or GTR or something, but I think that kind of RWD power would lead to me doing a fully unsick uncontrolled drift straight off the highway into a ditch. The insurance I got quoted on an old X5 was about $100 or so p/m, is that average? Looking on certain websites it seems gas is about 80 cents per litre right now in Alberta, so I'm guessing to fill up an SUV is going to cost about $100 a time?

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Yup, your numbers are reasonable - $1200/yr for insurance isn't too bad. Something like the X5 would probably cost around $100 / fill. Gas prices are at an historic low right now, $1/L is more like my experience. Who knows, though. Personally, I think the X5 is ugly like a butt and awkwardly does not fit any category except "suburban oversized grocery getter" but that's just me. They're certainly popular.

4WD helps with GO. The other car functions - TURN and STOP - do not benefit from 4WD. AWD (think Subaru, or Audi Quattro) can help with TURN but nothing helps with STOP in winter except good winter tires. Reading the X5 article on Wikipedia doesn't help me figure out if it's AWD or 4WD, or able to switch between those modes somehow. In any case, your plan is reasonable.

Now, there's nothing wrong with a reasonable plan. But it's not very interesting. I much prefer your Mustang idea. Go with that.

EDIT: Buy this, it's well under budget and it's ready to go.

quote:

Currently wearing the stock rims with new Nokian Hakkapelliita R winter tires

ExecuDork fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Jan 20, 2016

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


The X5 tank is only 85 liters and gas at costco this morning was 69.9. that's only $60 to fill.

unless you plan on living here forever, you should get something you're never gonna get anywhere else in the world like a big rear end lincoln navigator or a leathered up brotruck.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

Powershift posted:

unless you plan on living here forever, you should get something you're never gonna get anywhere else in the world like a big rear end lincoln navigator or a leathered up brotruck.
I was just thinking of the exact opposite.

Coming from Japan! Opportunity!

Buy a 15-years-old-to-the-month Nissan Skyline R34 GTR in Japan. Have it shipped to Vancouver, and then shipped (by train or truck) to Calgary. Get it safetied and set up for Alberta (a couple of hundred dollars? Any decent independent import-service shop will have experience with Skylines) and drive it in its strange new home. If you ever go back to the UK, TAKE IT WITH YOU.

Global Car. gently caress Yeah.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
While an x5 style vehicle would be good, the X5/x3 is typical german junk. As a daily driver at the end of it's warranty term, I personally would go with something easier and cheaper to get parts for.


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/calgary/2008-saab-97x-v8-leather-sunroof-awd-90daynopayments/1108939672?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Get this trollblazer. Cheap, low km's, standard gm platform with a solid drivetrain and a few upscale trim bits.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


They only made 11k R34 GTRs vs 16k R33s and 44k R32s. Even lovely R34s cost a lot more than $30k.

that is a good point about the opportunity of already being in japan, but our dollar suuuuuuuuuuuuucks, and it's not just falling against USD, we're down from 100 yen to 80 yen and most of the recent used cars on the market were bought with a 100 yen dollar, or a 1:1 us dollar.

Also, being a british expat in japan, i would imagine going to LHD in a RHD car would probably suck.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

A random sampling of every time I've driven into work in a snow storm has shown me that unless you're putting studded winter tires on your car you probably don't need AWD/4WD unless you're offroading and it really isn't offering any sort of noticable advantage if you've got all seasons or just regular winters versus studded.

Go for the gold. Get the mustang.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I drive 200km a day through the snow belt in Ontario and the best winter I've had was a BMW E34. Reasons:

1. LSD
2. Took 8 litres of loving washer fluid
3. When it wasn't exploding cooling parts it heated very fast and got really hot
4. Glove warmer vent on the dash

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
I didn't know those facts about the e34. It's just moved up many notches on my want list. Other than a pile of internet hype about a prototype or concept-car in cabriolet, it's available as a 4-door or a wagon.

Want a wagon. Badly.

Nomex
Jul 17, 2002

Flame retarded.
Do yourself a favor if you plan on staying here a while: Go get a replacement Japanese license. Tell them you lost it and get a second one. The government of Alberta will make you surrender your foreign license, so if you want a keepsake you need to get one now. I miss my Bermuda license :(

Also, look around and see what insurance companies provide insurance in Japan. If any are in Canada as well you can generally transfer over your driving history, which can lead to a way better rate.

Nomex fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jan 20, 2016

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Nomex posted:

Do yourself a favor if you plan on staying here a while: Go get a replacement Japanese license. Tell them you lost it and get a second one. The government of Alberta will make you surrender your foreign license, so if you want a keepsake you need to get one now. I miss my Bermuda license :(

Also, look around and see what insurance companies provide insurance in Japan. If any are in Canada as well you can generally transfer over your driving history, which can lead to a way better rate.

I thought he had no Japanese driving history or license, just a several-years-old expired license from the UK?

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

ExecuDork posted:

I didn't know those facts about the e34. It's just moved up many notches on my want list. Other than a pile of internet hype about a prototype or concept-car in cabriolet, it's available as a 4-door or a wagon.

Want a wagon. Badly.

I'd consider crime for a mint wagon. It's hard to find one with a five speed, and the LSD was only offered with the "winter package" pre-1993, sedan or otherwise. Mine also had the darth vader sport seats. After 5 years of good service rust took it away from me.

I kept the seats for the day I find a wagon with a 5 speed.

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

Powershift had the right idea.

Buy this.

http://m.kijiji.ca/classic-cars/calgary/1979-lincoln-continental-collector-series/v?adId=1134075737&ck=CK&from=Search&ts=1453311430212

Replace all the rubber and plastic bits.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Yeah, buy some North American monstrosity so you can email pictures to all your Japanese/UK friends and drive the gently caress out of it here. If you're reasonably mechanically competent, Pre-2000s and earlier North American cars are typically* pretty cheap to buy parts and maintain.

Fuel prices are approaching 10 year lows (mid 70s here today) but by no means count on that. When fuel is twice what it is today you'll want to kill yourself if you buy some huge guzzler.
Haha that guy has had that for sale since the spring with a pipe dream price of the mid Teen-thousands.

HOWEVER, this can be found
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/lethbridge/1977-lincoln-town-car/1115667832?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Throw the old codger a low-ball and enjoy enough your new tank but don't forget to buy some vacuum hose in bulk.

Regarding 4x4, it is absolutely true you will put power down and get going faster, but you still need good tires to stop well and not go flying off the road once you are moving. Decent brand new all seasons can do surprisingly well, but still pale in comparison to even mediocre winter tires.

If you are going to buy an AWD, do not buy a BMW SUV. They are terrible 4x4s (even in the snow), do not have the greatest reliability and dealers will bankrupt you if you can't on it yourself or find a good private shop that will touch it. Either buy something decent but North American or better yet something Japanese like a 4Runner or Pathfinder.

slidebite fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 20, 2016

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Xterra's are also pretty cheap and very capable 4x4's, though not awd so you'll be switching it into and out of 4x4 when turning on dry patches.

Eau de MacGowan
May 12, 2009

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Thanks for all the advice. If classics are up for debate, does anyone know what Julian drives in Trailer Park Boys?

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

I believe it's a Monte Carlo although don't hold me to that as its been a long time since I've watched.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
The Shitmobile is a '75 New Yorker.

In later seasons Julian does indeed drive an 80s Monte Carlo

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
He also drives a Terminator Cobra

Nomex
Jul 17, 2002

Flame retarded.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

The Shitmobile is a '75 New Yorker.

In later seasons Julian does indeed drive an 80s Monte Carlo

An '87 SS if I'm not mistaken.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I've always liked the look of the SS. That and the Regals of the GNX era.

I think I'm going to break the bike out today and ride it to the inlaws to park it in their cavernous garage. By the looks of it, I might be taking it out again late next week too.

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