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OSI bean dip posted:http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/postmedia-job-cuts-1.3410497?cmp=rss The endorsements came from the owners anyway so it's not like it really matters how many editors there are in the way to ignore. Also, the only one that spoke out against the Harper endorsement publicly was also one of the first fires. https://twitter.com/trevormelanson/status/689503639077924865
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I can't believe Postmedia wussed out and just didn't close the Sun chain or merge them with there more up market sister-papers and adopt a Berliner style for all of them.
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 21:05 |
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I mean I get that the Sun's target demographic is more likely to actually buy newspapers (particularly newspapers that cater to their PoV) so I can see why they're keeping it on life support, but on the other hand it isn't fit to use as toilet paper even if you DO like populist conservatism and cheesecake photos, and I will throw a party the day they finally kill it.
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 21:08 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:That doesn't make sense as a solution. There's no world in which a government i, on the one hand needing to print money and borrow from the central bank to finance its spending, and on the other hand raising taxes and cutting spending to curb inflation. A government who's going to have to do that might as well just go ahead and run a surplus in the first place and save everyone a lot of headache. The point is to move away from the idea that the government must first tax pre-existing wealth in order to spend money. Instead the government prints money, and this money gains value because it is required to pay taxes. The money doesn't actually come "out" of the economy, the government / bank creates it out of thin air. If the economy begins to overheat then the government increases taxes to reduce aggregate demand, which will slow economic growth and thus -- all other things being equal -- reduce inflation. In this scenario taxes aren't used to raise revenue but rather to regulate aggregate demand. Obviously there are ways that this process could break down but I don't see why it's any more inherently implausible than any other economic theory that calls for counter cyclical fiscal policy. quote:I think technocratic concerns about institutional credibility and stability are really important! And the concerns about political interference aren't just about relationship between the federal government and the central bank (which, really, the feds can borrow at very low rates already), but more about the relationship between the central bank, the federal government, and the provinces. What happens if there's a big spending Liberal government in Ontario and the federal government is Conservative? What if the federal government is Liberal? What if there's an NDP government in Alberta and the federal Liberals want to ensure their reelection? We already know that the LPC doesn't have many qualms about breaking down, or appearing to break down, central bank independence, so those questions are actually really important! I actually agree with everything you've said here so I think maybe we're talking past each other a bit (and looking back at my last comment I can see why, my analysis was a pretty sweeping and yet reductive picture of the economy) but what I do feel that you're missing or under emphasizing is that while the Bank often tends to be at arms-length from the cut-and-thrust of party politics, the bank is still very much a political actor. Under Diefenbaker the central bank was really concerned about maintaining full employment through low interest rates whereas by the Mulroney era the overwhelming concern was (and remains to this day) keeping low inflation -- even at the expense of full employment. These are political decisions and I don't believe that the Bank reaches these decisions objectively or scientifically or based on an equal regard for every interest group in Canada. When the bank is trying to set interest rates and is trying to balance unemployment and inflation it's making a political decision with huge ramifications for employers and employees, debtors and creditors, etc. When the bank weighs in on these decisions it tends to be closer to the opinions of bankers and business owners than labour unions or social activists. Maybe you think that's a good thing but that's certainly not an example of the bank being apolitical. When Brian Mulroney's appointed governor, John Crow, declared that his number one goal was to reduce inflation he was making a political trade off: he knew that inflation fighting policies were going to reduce employment and that this reduction would disproportionately hit people in working and middle class occupations. Indeed the inflation fighting period of the late 1980s and early 1990s inflicted lasting damage on some economic sectors. That may not be a partisan issue but its a fundamentally political one. And the people who run these banks are educated at elite schools, rub shoulders with the rest of the monetary elite (Crow was at the IMF for a long time before coming to the Bank of Canada) and then afterward they reap big rewards in the private sector (Crow left the bank in 1994, by 1999 he was the CEO of a mining company that was later purchased by Barrick Gold). quote:The point about class warfare is, I think, entirely orthogonal to this particular issue. Obviously class conflict isn't an exhaustive or complete explanation. The Bank governor doesn't call up a shadowy cabal of businessmen and ask them for instructions on exactly what to do. But bank governors come from, live among and return to the upper class, are steeped deeply in the world of finance, and inevitably will be inclined to see the world through that lens. I don't think you can entirely separate bank policy from the positionality of bank directors. Obviously in some narrow sense we should aspire to have a non-partisan government bank. I don't think its wise to give elected government (or any other single institutional actor) total control over monetary or fiscal policy. I do recognize the value of so called "checks and balances". But when it comes to these bigger questions of "what kind of society do we want to have? what is an acceptable level of poverty? Should we listen more closely to the concerns buyers or sellers, employers or employees, creditor or debtors, landlords or renters, etc.?" then we cannot really afford to maintain this fiction that the bank is independent or ever could be independent of politics.
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 21:09 |
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Haha, get hosed consumers!quote:Wireless rates rise with hikes in internet, home phone ahead
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 22:34 |
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Oh, it's ok they'll lower the prices back to the old rates when the dollar recovers! why are you all laughing
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 23:06 |
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Every one of our telcosare a loving joke. I for one can't wait for our google overlords.
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 23:10 |
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My internet prices keep going up for the same speeds. I guess all the bits shaw has to buy from the US are getting more expensive. And their already built out cable network needs special american-made cable oils to keep the bits flowing smoothly.
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 23:12 |
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Telcos all raise rates by the same amount at the same time, but it's not a cartel because...
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 23:16 |
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Every year ARPU must increase.
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# ? Jan 19, 2016 23:40 |
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It's funny because during the campaign Harper tried to make a big deal about the dangers of a "Netflix tax" and the Liberals and NDP of course insisted they'd do no such thing. Of course when prices are raised by a You know there was a time when the NDP actually made coherent critiques of how oligopolistic corporations take handouts from the government but then unfairly raise prices on consumers. These days the party occasionally says they want to regulate bank fees.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 00:33 |
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Criticizing oligopolistic corporations and their handouts makes capital feel "uncertain" which leads to job losses. The working class needs jobs or they'll starve. If you criticize the job creating corporations you're attacking the working class. The NDP cares deeply about the working middle class of canada and will fight to make sure job creators feel safe and certain so they may continue to lay the golden eggs of jobs. Taxing or regulating them would be like killing the goose! That's bad economics.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 00:37 |
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Helsing posted:The point is to move away from the idea that the government must first tax pre-existing wealth in order to spend money. Instead the government prints money, and this money gains value because it is required to pay taxes. The money doesn't actually come "out" of the economy, the government / bank creates it out of thin air. There's no functional difference between taxing wealth and printing money and devaluing the currency - they're both wealth taxes! I'm not sure why you're trying to draw a distinction. quote:I actually agree with everything you've said here so I think maybe we're talking past each other a bit (and looking back at my last comment I can see why, my analysis was a pretty sweeping and yet reductive picture of the economy) but what I do feel that you're missing or under emphasizing is that while the Bank often tends to be at arms-length from the cut-and-thrust of party politics, the bank is still very much a political actor. I don't think anybody disagrees that the Bank is a political actor, and I don't think that establishing that it is is tremendously helpful in determining whether or not its mandate should change. "Does the Bank operate in the political realm" is almost a trivial question, the question is "do we want or need the Bank to operate more overtly in the partisan political realm". quote:Obviously class conflict isn't an exhaustive or complete explanation. The Bank governor doesn't call up a shadowy cabal of businessmen and ask them for instructions on exactly what to do. But bank governors come from, live among and return to the upper class, are steeped deeply in the world of finance, and inevitably will be inclined to see the world through that lens. I don't think you can entirely separate bank policy from the positionality of bank directors.
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bunnyofdoom posted:And here's the senate advisory board quote:One of the panelists named by the Liberal government to a board that will select new senators tries to recover the past lives of people she treats using a largely debunked psychological technique .
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Baronjutter posted:Criticizing oligopolistic corporations and their handouts makes capital feel "uncertain" which leads to job losses. The working class needs jobs or they'll starve. If you criticize the job creating corporations you're attacking the working class. The NDP cares deeply about the working middle class of canada and will fight to make sure job creators feel safe and certain so they may continue to lay the golden eggs of jobs. Taxing or regulating them would be like killing the goose! That's bad economics. if the government increases telco regulation rogers, bell and telus might move all their equipment to a more business friendly country, like brazil or israel
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 00:48 |
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I wonder if my skull is of the correct shape and lumpiness to become a senator
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 00:53 |
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They'll take their spectrum and leave. Then what will we do?
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 00:53 |
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infernal machines posted:They'll take their spectrum and leave. Then what will we do? KEEP CANADIAN SPECTRUM FOR CANADIANS!
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 00:55 |
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Surely old stock spectrum wouldn't allow such a move. The radical spectrum snitch line will be implemented to keep the ARPU on the rise.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 02:46 |
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infernal machines posted:They'll take their spectrum and leave. Then what will we do? CanPol Megathread: On the spectrum
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 04:36 |
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Nationalize all the telecom infrastructure. Its the only way to be safe.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 06:25 |
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Furnaceface posted:Nationalize all the telecom infrastructure. Its the only way to be safe.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 06:27 |
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Furnaceface posted:Nationalize all the telecom infrastructure. Its the only way to be safe. Isn't that a little extreme? Couldn't we just publicly execute their executives and board members?
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Whiskey Sours posted:Isn't that a little extreme? Couldn't we just publicly execute their executives and board members? Actually it would work better for the country if the telecoms were nationalized again. Considering that this country cannot function without this infrastructure and in a modern sense it's as important as water and electricity (which too should be nationalized), why not? But of course that's communism or some other bullshit.
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Whiskey Sours posted:Isn't that a little extreme? Couldn't we just publicly execute their executives and board members? why not both?
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 09:47 |
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quote:Canada has just appointed a cabinet 50% female with indigenous, Sikh and disabled members. And that’s Canada, a country with all the daring forward-thinking of a defrosting lasagne. Frankie Boyle gets Canada in a way most non-Canadians never will.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 14:12 |
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Ontario governments promise to cut insurance rates was just a "stretch goal". I've seen some pretty patronizing PR bullshit from politicians but this is pretty hilarious. As if they're running a loving Kickstarter campaign and not the provincial government. I will never understand this province, we reward poor performance, corruption and and let governments fail upward for eons. The conservatives need to boot the loons and get someone respectable to run, the NDP are too politically inept to make anything of their opportunities.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 15:24 |
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You know it's bad when people unironically start pining for a conservative government. I remember living under Harris as a kid. Be very careful what you wish for.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 15:28 |
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EvilJoven posted:You know it's bad when people unironically start pining for a conservative government. I lived under Harris as an adult but Harris wouldn't be running anything these days so that's neither here nor there. Can't keep sticking our hands in the sand and saying "oh well we think the other guy might be worse". 300 billion in debt with 11 billion in interest alone and no end in sight. Constant corruption, cronyism and mismanagement. We need to try something new.
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The Gunslinger posted:I lived under Harris as an adult but Harris wouldn't be running anything these days so that's neither here nor there. Can't keep sticking our hands in the sand and saying "oh well we think the other guy might be worse". 300 billion in debt with 11 billion in interest alone and no end in sight. Constant corruption, cronyism and mismanagement. We need to try something new. Tell me what about Hudak's plan could be considered new?
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 15:38 |
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jm20 posted:Tell me what about Hudak's plan could be considered new? Well, giving out pink slips as a publicity stunt was certainly novel
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 15:48 |
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The Gunslinger posted:Can't keep sticking our hands in the sand What, to prevent ourselves from detecting the texture of the government?
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jm20 posted:Tell me what about Hudak's plan could be considered new? First Harris, now Hudak. I'm talking about the next election. I would've liked to see fresh blood in last time but Hudak ran a disastrous campaign and the NDP got outmaneuvered plus their costing plan was a joke. quote:What, to prevent ourselves from detecting the texture of the government? That's what I get for posting before coffee
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EvilJoven posted:You know it's bad when people unironically start pining for a conservative government. Our kids don't need after-school activities anyways. Or hospitals, for that matter.
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sliderule posted:What, to prevent ourselves from detecting the texture of the government? It's easier to vote if we can't feel the slime.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 15:54 |
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I'm pretty sure if the PCs had drawn a smiley face on a bowling ball and nominated it as their leader they would have won the last election by the virtue of how lovely the provincial Libs were and the fact a bowling ball can't say anything stupid. Instead they chose Tim Hudak and he threw away the easiest election in decades with a plan of "I'll fire 100,000 of you".
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I'm pretty sure if the PCs had drawn a smiley face on a bowling ball and nominated it as their leader they would have won the last election by the virtue of how lovely the provincial Libs were and the fact a bowling ball can't say anything stupid. It was pretty bad. My girlfriend is a teacher and when he started explaining his plan publicly she came home and showed me the letter her union sent out which was basically "gently caress this guy, this means war". The rest of that election her Facebook was a bunch of angry teachers reaching out to literally everyone they knew, pushing people to vote NDP and Liberal.
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# ? Jan 20, 2016 16:08 |
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jm20 posted:Tell me what about Hudak's plan could be considered new? True, Wynne and Hudak both needed to cut tens of thousands of public jobs, privatize government assets and implement some form of austerity with Hudak promising to balance the budget 1 year earlier than Wynne. You could even argue that Wynne is doing a better job of being Hudak than Hudak could have done. I'm pretty sure the OPP was on the radio saying that if Hudak won, he was going to round up every single puppy in the province and personally kill it. So at least we still have puppies. The biggest difference to me were green energy subsidies, corporate welfare strategy and which type of public sector jobs are cut and kept. Hudak wanted to make the business environment slightly better for all businesses. Wynne likes to target individuals companies and shower them with millions, as such. Hudak was going to scrap the green energy act and cancel any contracts that weren't final including the $9billion samsung wind farm. With Wynne, we get more windmills and more energy exported to the US. With Hudak, we kept nurses. With Wynne, we keep teachers. With Hudak, we were going to scrap the bureaucratic LHINs and CCACs, the healthcare "jobs" that spend about 61% of their budget on front line care and the rest on management. quote:Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak says he'll hand decision making in Ontario's health-care system to doctors and nurses rather than bureaucrats. With Wynne, we're now scrapping CCACs and expanding LHINs into something that sounds a lot like Hudak's regional health care hub. http://www.hamiltonnews.com/opinion-story/6230647-ccacs-lhins-on-life-support/ posted:Since the CCACs were created in 1997 by the Progressive Conservatives and the LHINs in 2007 by the Liberals, the public agencies have been a lightning rod for criticism on how health care is delivered. They were crafted to provide such services such as nursing, physiotherapy and help with personal care for about 700,000 patients outside of hospitals. Which is certainly a plan but it seems like the core of their health care plan is to just freeze hospital budgets for the fifth year in a row with no raises for even inflation or currency (most of those medical supplies come from the US) and let the hospitals figure it out. Like the guy said, we're over $300b in debt and spending $11b just on interest. That's 20% of our entire health care budget. Selling 15% of Hydro One only gets us 32 days of relief from debt interest payments. We're metaphorically selling the copper in the house so we can skip a mortgage payment. No matter which government we elect, there's going to be pain. We're so close to being the highest debt per capita province. Our debt-GDP ratio is 42% now, in 2011 it was 36% and 2007, 26.2%. The higher that gets, the higher our borrowing costs get, hopefully the GDP growth doesn't slow down. I don't feel like it's a stretch to say that Hudak's gang would have been better than the group that's writing secret million dollar cheques directly to the teachers' unions who spent millions advertising for the Libs.
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Ikantski posted:True, Wynne and Hudak both needed to cut tens of thousands of public jobs, privatize government assets and implement some form of austerity with Hudak promising to balance the budget 1 year earlier than Wynne. You could even argue that Wynne is doing a better job of being Hudak than Hudak could have done. I'm pretty sure the OPP was on the radio saying that if Hudak won, he was going to round up every single puppy in the province and personally kill it. So at least we still have puppies. OPPA != OPP. Writing 1m cheques is chump change for the overall budget, let's discount the OLP being liberal with the public purse which I suppose is to be expected. We need to rein in costs on a much larger scale across a broad range of ministries. I think its fairly obvious e are losing and will continue to lose the grow the gdp faster than the debt:gdp race that we have. Electing tea party conservatives to manage a province with a large public sector and powerful unions seems like a stretch.
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jm20 posted:OPPA != OPP. Their radio ad was originally "We're the OPP", they changed it to OPPA after some complaints. The other ad... quote:
quote:Writing 1m cheques is chump change for the overall budget, let's discount the OLP being liberal with the public purse which I suppose is to be expected. We need to rein in costs on a much larger scale across a broad range of ministries. I think its fairly obvious e are losing and will continue to lose the grow the gdp faster than the debt:gdp race that we have. I'm not saying that they're giving millions to the unions and that's what's breaking us, it's just indicative. You're right that we need to reign in costs, I'm saying that writing million dollar cheques to unions that are sitting on $60m in cash to cover negotiating expenses isn't indicative of a government reigning in costs in s socially responsible way, that would buy a decent amount of hospital supplies. In totally unrelated OLP screw ups, our hundred million dollar bridge might be fixed by... end of February, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/nipigon-bridge-reopening-february-1.3410576
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