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LupusAter posted:I doubt it. To me, Sanji's face in the final panel reads more as "gently caress I've been found out" than disbelief. Sanji's surname was never revealed, right? Not until that chapter no.
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Which of the crew have had chapters named about them being a member? There are still a few missing right?
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Jose posted:Which of the crew have had chapters named about them being a member? There are still a few missing right? Only Chopper and Robin
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I gotta wonder of this is one of those plot twists that was planned from the start or if Oda just decided to wing it here. I mean Oda's decent at integrating his embellished character into the mainline narrative, but when he's cashing in a long-awaited plot chip, poo poo usually hits the fan in the best way.
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Given Mr. Prince, repeated wanted poster shenanigans, the love of chivalry, and such it's likely Noble Sanji has been planned for quote a while.
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I'm calling Chopper saving the day by expanding inside Capone's body and becoming around the same size
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Parrotine posted:I gotta wonder of this is one of those plot twists that was planned from the start or if Oda just decided to wing it here. I don't think it was planned out anymore than saying he was a noble at birth, ran away to be a chef, and ended up a pirate. Stuff like his family history, connection to Big Mom, that kinda stuff wasn't thought out until now. On another note, what would happen if someone with a devil fruit that could increase their size started to grow inside Capone? If he's a castle man, is his body stone and can be repaired if damaged? Or is it more like there's a separate dimension inside him that his castle occupies and his body is otherwise normal?
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Shoren posted:I don't think it was planned out anymore than saying he was a noble at birth, ran away to be a chef, and ended up a pirate. Stuff like his family history, connection to Big Mom, that kinda stuff wasn't thought out until now. I think it's just like how Wapol worked with his fruit. Body follows convenient cartoon laws, but it's pretty much made up on the spot.
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Do the people in Capone's body eat the same food he eats?
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Mraagvpeine posted:Do the people in Capone's body eat the same food he eats? Do they poop?
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Jibo posted:Do they poop?
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Some fan-art of Kaidou vs Shanks and Luffy I found:  Sorry about the crappy watermark.  Still, definitely looking forward to seeing Kaidou in action. The second pic does bring an interesting point up: what if the "tattoo" is actually just a permanent intricate Haki pattern kind of like Luffy's flames design-looking "tattoo" in Gear Fourth?Also, didn't think of this before, but what if Bartolomeo's Barrier ability a veiled reference to breaking the fourth wall? He's pretty much the every-man One Piece fan, after all.  Bonus: Gear Fourth animated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpzGTSx_1zk Rhino Schneider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li7bPPgLTqk I still think it came off as feeling more intense/lightning-fast in the manga especially with Rhino Schneider, but oh well.
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The anime always makes the attacks really slow and drawn out, when the manga makes it feel like it's happening much faster. Then there's stuff like Jinbei's punch in Impel Down that took almost an entire episode.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Some fan-art of Kaidou vs Shanks and Luffy I found: Obviously, the fighting should be much faster paced. The Whole point before his transformation was that Luffy's big attacks were too slow, whereas here they are supposedly "fast" enough to catch Dolfy off guard, but it doesn't come across in animation well. Another problem is that Luffy should be mush more kinetic, like a freaking super ball bouncing, not just lightly bopping up and down. On to of that, the arm attack in the air just did a clever bait and switch in the manga, where in the anime it stetches like miles, which vvery much did not seem like a thing it could do in the manga. And, as others have said, the transformation and arm attack sequences don't look right, because they are too "fleshy", looking like something out of Akira.
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Well, here's hoping for One Piece Kai. ...In 20-30 years.  edit: Still hard to believe all the screaming and roaring Luffy does is by this sweet-looking 61-year old lady:  I'm betting Luffy will learn to awaken his Devil Fruit powers around the time he fights Kaidou. He'll probably lose a few times first like he did with Crocodile/Lucci, but then come around to score a win under desperate circumstances. It'll probably be something nuts like "injecting" rubber-like rippling into the air/an opponent's body/ricocheting the shockwave of his hits off the air like a pseudo-Whitebeard quake power. Be able to bypass Haki shielding by rippling his attacks through his opponent or attack from a distance by "punching" the air and all that. Either that, or learn a new Gear Fifth or Gear Overdrive/Manual by strengthening his blood flow/bones/muscle all once. Is there anything more than blood/bones/muscle Luffy can even enhance at this point? Maybe his nervous system for faster reaction times? Just idle speculation. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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haha they made gear four look real bad instead of just silly
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Well, here's hoping for One Piece Kai. I would assume it would involve his nervous system somehow, yeah. Stretching it, compressing it, just applying Color of Observation to it really hard, whatever.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Well, here's hoping for One Piece Kai. Then someone will remark they've not seen that technique since Roger. And we get a flashback to him using it against Whitebeard or Kaidou or something.
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Jan 17, 2016 13:42
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Gear fifth Luffy becomes a reject dial.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Gear fifth Luffy becomes a reject dial. This makes sense. Any damage Luffy receives is stored up and then sprung back into the attacker. Any properties of rubber/springs (Luffy is basically Bellamy 2.0 in his mastery over his DF powers) or cars with stored energy that this would make sense with? Joke answer: Luffy literally becomes a Toyota Prius in Gear Fifth. 
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Awakened Luffy will basically be Plastic Man. He can make himself and at the very least his clothes any shape and maintain that shape instead of springing back. Unless he wants to spring back. Any time someone hits him, his body will stretch and deform quickly so that the energy of the hit diffuses throughout his new shape, leaving him unharmed.
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tsob posted:Awakened Luffy will basically be Plastic Man. He can make himself and at the very least his clothes any shape and maintain that shape instead of springing back. Unless he wants to spring back. Any time someone hits him, his body will stretch and deform quickly so that the energy of the hit diffuses throughout his new shape, leaving him unharmed. This is also plausible. Considering how supposedly monstrously strong and invulnerable Kaidou is, Luffy would probably need to ante up on his defensive abilities to withstand hits by the guy. The Immortal Man vs the Invincible Man, basically. An irresistible force meets an immovable object, etc.
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I'm just waiting for Luffy to break out the final property of rubber we've all been waiting for. Gear R Eraserman.
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Why does Doflamingo's wire look like it's on fire
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Baal posted:Why does Doflamingo's wire look like it's on fire The attack is called "Overheat" which is also a string pun in Japanese, I guess that's why they figure it should look hot. Don't think too much about it. What I'm more confused about is why Gear Fourth makes Luffy talk super slow.
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Shoren posted:What I'm more confused about is why Gear Fourth makes Luffy talk super slow. It's a trope in Kabuki theater for the hero/protagonist to speak in an absurdly drawn-out, emphatic, and overly dramatic tone as well as exaggerated physical features like bouncing on one foot, fierce face and hand gestures, face paint, etc. This is in stark contrast to the minimalism of Noh theater.  Kumadori of CP9 is a much, much straighter and more direct example of Kabuki tropes. On that same note, No-Face in Spirited Away is at least a partial physical reference to Noh theater tropes (masks, quiet speech, subtle movements, etc). Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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So the awakened String-String fruit allows Mingo to make strings out of the ground. What if Gear Fifth involves Luffy making the terrain into a giant bounce house?Your Dunkle Sans posted:It's a trope in Kabuki theater for the hero/protagonist to speak in an absurdly drawn-out, emphatic, and overly dramatic tone as well as exaggerated physical features like bouncing on one foot, fierce face and hand gestures, face paint, etc. This is in stark contrast to the minimalism of Noh theater. Plus Oda is a massive Kabuki nerd and makes references to it whenever he can.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:It's a trope in Kabuki theater for the hero/protagonist to speak in an absurdly drawn-out, emphatic, and overly dramatic tone as well as exaggerated physical features like bouncing on one foot, fierce face and hand gestures, face paint, etc. This is in stark contrast to the minimalism of Noh theater. Noh theater? That's my favorite!
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:It's a trope in Kabuki theater for the hero/protagonist to speak in an absurdly drawn-out, emphatic, and overly dramatic tone as well as exaggerated physical features like bouncing on one foot, fierce face and hand gestures, face paint, etc. This is in stark contrast to the minimalism of Noh theater. That makes a lot more sense now. I recognized the initial transformation with Luffy's face and pose and all that, but I didn't realize the speaking style was reminiscent of it as well.
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Shoren posted:That makes a lot more sense now. I recognized the initial transformation with Luffy's face and pose and all that, but I didn't realize the speaking style was reminiscent of it as well. Check it out! It's quite neat.  Also, you'll probably recognize the Lion Dance from somewhere... (Hint: rewatch Kumadori and Shiki) Alternate Lion Dance
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Fuckshoes posted:So the awakened String-String fruit allows Mingo to make strings out of the ground. What if Gear Fifth involves Luffy making the terrain into a giant bounce house? Luffy having a bounce house power makes me smile. Think about how happy it would make Chopper. I'm also picturing Zoro and Sanji bouncing around at speed and slashing/kicking enemies.
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So the crew is up against a guy with the Fort-Fort Fruit. It's only a matter of time before Luffy awakens his Fruit. Conclusion? Capone's going to get turned into a motherfucking bouncy castle. 
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Darth Walrus posted:Capone's going to get turned into a motherfucking bouncy castle. This is the best One Piece theory I've ever read. Almost certainly too good to be true sadly.
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Luffy won't awaken his fruit til he fights Kaido, I'm betting. So seeya in 2018, I guess
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Crazyeyes posted:Luffy won't awaken his fruit til he fights Kaido, I'm betting. Yeah, even if Luffy is the one who fights Capone, the dude's just not a big enough threat to justify such a huge upgrade. It'll either be against Big Mom or Kaido.
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i'm not sure i like the idea of devil fruit awakening but i think i'd have preferred it to haki or something idk or gear 4 is luffy awakened i guess it won't be so bad
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dordreff posted:Yeah, even if Luffy is the one who fights Capone, the dude's just not a big enough threat to justify such a huge upgrade. It'll either be against Big Mom or Kaido. Unless he starts firing swords or actual seastone bullets he won't really pose a threat to Luffy.
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Awakening just appears to be devil fruit+ (in the case of Zoans) and/or being able to apply the effects to the world in your direct vicinity instead of just yourself (in the case of at least paramecias). I've no idea why you'd possibly have a problem with that, since it's not fundamentally any different than normal devil fruit behavior really. I wonder if Logia's can awaken them in some different way or if it's just Zoans that are different.
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i guess i didn't mind the idea that awakened zoan's traded brute force for diminished intelligence or whatever since they transform into animals but its a bit like haki in that it makes things like the battle of marineford look a bit silly
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I think Chopper's Monster Giant (dunno the actual name) form is him awakening his devil fruit powers but hasn't been named as such because nobody on the Straw Hat crew really knows about awakening powers.
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