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If they want your opinion on penguins, say something like "They're kinda neat to look at at the zoo I guess, I'm not super into birds." I guess they've had problems with people who are REALLY into penguins.
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KillHour posted:Stupid degree requirement. I will never understand why places want you to have a computer science degree to be an admin. "Can you set up a router?" "No, but I can tell you all about big O notation!"
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Jan 20, 2016 09:07
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Hi, yes. Our current Irridium based network is 1.5Mb/s roughly 4hrs/day please do your needful during our uptime window
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KillHour posted:Stupid degree requirement. I will never understand why places want you to have a computer science degree to be an admin. "Can you set up a router?" "No, but I can tell you all about big O notation!" Yeah, that's weird for that level of experience. It may be an HR policy or something along those lines. Most listings that have a degree requirement I've seen usually have "...or equivalent work experience" or something. I've been doing this since my early 20s and I still don't have a BS/BA. I may one day, but it hasn't really impacted my career or salary. In fact, I'm due to move into a new position as soon as all the ink dries (we're creating a new group in my dept.). So far I've been fortunate in that I keep landing interesting and challenging jobs. I'm really looking forward to it, I'll be back 100% in my preferred role, security engineer. I'll basically be the dept SME for info-sec and supervising/ad hoc T3 for the SOC. I'll still be involved in back-end and customer architecture, but more with a focus on security and network hardening and directing incident response. There's the less glamorous stuff like audits and policy/KB creation, but I'm excited.
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A lot of companies are looking for portfolios now as a replacement for a degree if you don't have one. At least in the coding world.
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flosofl posted:Yeah, that's weird for that level of experience. It may be an HR policy or something along those lines. I've had multiple HR people call me about jobs I applied for saying "It's not clear from your resume; do you have a degree?" And I say "No, I have several relevant certificates from accredited schools and I have most of the credit hours for an associate's. I just never finished the degree." The reply is "This position requires a degree." [hang up] These are for network admin jobs.
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Jan 20, 2016 15:52
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KillHour posted:I've had multiple HR people call me about jobs I applied for saying "It's not clear from your resume; do you have a degree?" Gotta fill that checkbox.
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Jan 20, 2016 16:04
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:If they want your opinion on penguins, say something like "They're kinda neat to look at at the zoo I guess, I'm not super into birds." "Well I was told jackass penguins can bite a human finger clean off."
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Jan 20, 2016 16:10
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NeuralSpark posted:Gotta fill that checkbox. If I ever am in the position to hire somebody for an HR position, and they say "I'm REALLY good at following procedures." I'm going to hire them. And put them in the shipping department. 
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KillHour posted:If I ever am in the position to hire somebody for an HR position, and they say "I'm REALLY good at following procedures." I'm going to hire them. And put them in the shipping department. If you're in that position you could also just tell them to drop the degree requirement
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Jan 20, 2016 18:04
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Judge Schnoopy posted:If you're in that position you could also just tell them to drop the degree requirement My point is that nobody in a position with more power than a warehouse worker should be making decisions exclusively by following a set procedure.
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Jan 20, 2016 18:31
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How do you get people to look at your resume / cover letter past the line that says you're living out of state? I've applied to maybe 30 jobs in the past week and a half, and haven't heard anything back yet from anyone. Someone put me in touch with a Robert Half recruiter, and he said that a lot of places are looking specifically for local candidates. And it's not like I can move down there and try to find a job ASAP, because no leasing office is going to accept people with no income.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:How do you get people to look at your resume / cover letter past the line that says you're living out of state? I've applied to maybe 30 jobs in the past week and a half, and haven't heard anything back yet from anyone. Someone put me in touch with a Robert Half recruiter, and he said that a lot of places are looking specifically for local candidates. And it's not like I can move down there and try to find a job ASAP, because no leasing office is going to accept people with no income. Don't put your address on your resume.
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Oh. Okay. I wish I had thought of that before I applied to all of the good jobs.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Oh. Okay. I wish I had thought of that before I applied to all of the good jobs. Reapply. If they threw out your resume after reading your address, they don't remember you.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:How do you get people to look at your resume / cover letter past the line that says you're living out of state? I've applied to maybe 30 jobs in the past week and a half, and haven't heard anything back yet from anyone. Someone put me in touch with a Robert Half recruiter, and he said that a lot of places are looking specifically for local candidates. And it's not like I can move down there and try to find a job ASAP, because no leasing office is going to accept people with no income. Do you have a friend or relative in that area whose address you can use? In the past I've done that with success or on a visit down got a PO box that you can use as the address. You just put the post offices address and then say box whatever or apartment whatever and list your box number. Then when you start getting calls and they want you to come in for an interview you tell them that you are finishing up a work contract and will be done by X date. So if they do happen to hire you its no big deal because you already live down there permanently anyway! Basically make it clear that you being out of town wont affect your ability to be there on time day 1 when they want you to start.
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Ugh, interviewing people for a junior position is the worst, half the candidates don't know poo poo and the other half have 20 years experience and are somehow applying for a junior job
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Jan 20, 2016 21:18
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CLAM DOWN posted:Ugh, interviewing people for a junior position is the worst, half the candidates don't know poo poo and the other half have 20 years experience and are somehow applying for a junior job Blame HR. Also the job market for IT is poo poo right now.
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Jan 20, 2016 21:21
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KillHour posted:Blame HR. Also the job market for IT is poo poo right now. Still booming in DFW, sorry bro.
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Jan 20, 2016 21:44
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KillHour posted:Blame HR. Also the job market for IT is poo poo right now. In Vancouver it absolutely is, most positions are contract, very few permanent fulltime, an excess of applicants for every job, and below average salaries in a place with super high cost of living, it's a mess.
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Wouldn't the whole point of a junior position be to train someone who doesn't know poo poo?
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Sickening posted:Still booming in DFW, sorry bro. I really have no excuses for not applying to a ton of jobs over the last few months. CCENT this weekend and then I'm looking hard. SaltLick posted:Wouldn't the whole point of a junior position be to train someone who doesn't know poo poo? I would consider a "junior" position (assuming we're talking like Junior Sys Admin, Junior Network <whatever>, etc.) to be someone who's done a couple of years in a desktop support role, maybe knows a little scripting, some familiarity with AD, knows the difference between a switch and a router, etc. Not a clueless "what is a computer" person, but not someone that you're not quite ready to hand over full administration duties to. Japanese Dating Sim fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Jan 20, 2016 21:56
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SaltLick posted:Wouldn't the whole point of a junior position be to train someone who doesn't know poo poo? A basic level of knowledge is still required, especially as we require related education in the job description (yes, I realize the hate boner this thread has for degree requirements and idgaf).
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Guess you found the cause of your problem then, didn't you. 
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Sickening posted:Still booming in DFW, sorry bro.  Edit: The team I escalate to doesn't have those rights either. I'm that low on the totem pole. Japanese Dating Sim posted:I really have no excuses for not applying to a ton of jobs over the last few months. CCENT this weekend and then I'm looking hard. Someone at that level is "not quite ready" for full administration? poo poo; by that metric, I should be a senior architect. KillHour fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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KillHour posted:Someone at that level is "not quite ready" for full administration? poo poo; by that metric, I should be a senior architect. Yeah, I guess my bar is pretty low and those examples were bad. Anyway, insert the understanding you'd want a semi-ambitious tech to have after a couple of years? 
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Anybody here doing SSL Proxy (DPI-SSL, or any other enterprise-sanctioned MITM Attack) to scan users' Internet traffic? What are you doing now that Certificate Pinning is making that security requirement obsolete/broken? We're being told to "Just whitelist the affected sites"... like *.google.com. Might as well turn the damned thing off if this is where the world is going. Lord Dudeguy fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jan 21, 2016 |
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CLAM DOWN posted:A basic level of knowledge is still required, especially as we require related education in the job description (yes, I realize the hate boner this thread has for degree requirements and idgaf). No one is hating against education related to work, just mindless requirements of a degree of any sort that bring absolutely nothing to the table.
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KillHour posted:Blame HR. Also the job market for IT is poo poo right now. We're having trouble finding qualified candidates here in Dayton, OH. We've got 4 or 5 spots open for server technicians, and the resumes that keep coming in are loads of hilarity. Previous contender was from someone who had "extensive experience with both small and large servers" and "paid close attention to detail" (but had random mis-spellings and letters capitalized in weird spots). This week's contenders are both line cooks from Texas Roadhouse and Logan's Steakhouse. Team lead said one of them was going to school for his Associate's degree and should be finished sometime later this year. I think they actually have a shot at a position if they can interview well. The team lead has since revised his standards down to "has a pulse", "is not a flaming idiot", and "can understand and follow instructions". The reason for the shortage is that our Exchange team keeps snagging server techs and promoting them to Jr Exchange Admins and bumping their pay by like $10-15k. I can't really blame the guys, it's a lot of money and I did it myself (but I got a $29k raise out of it), but the uncertainty of whether there's going to be a Messaging team in 6-7 months has got to be a consideration. Anyone want to do DoD contracting? We'll throw in a Secret security clearance and give you one of the easiest jobs in the world - 7 hours of monotony staring at whatever news website you care to visit (or reading cert study guides, or whatever the hell you want, but no Youtube), and 1 hour of actually walking around recording temperature, humidity, and voltage readings in the server farm - maybe a half hour if you walk fast. If you're really a go-getter, we'll even throw in running a script to check the status of the AV on our servers. If you're unlucky, you'll actually have to reinstall the agent on a few machines (which involves an extensive 5-minute process, 4 minutes of which are waiting). If you want to break into IT, or switch from the private sector and need a security clearance, we can help! Pay is around $32-35k, plus full benefits. No 401k matching, however.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Ugh, interviewing people for a junior position is the worst, half the candidates don't know poo poo and the other half have 20 years experience and are somehow applying for a junior job 20 Years Experience doing what?
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CLAM DOWN posted:In Vancouver it absolutely is, most positions are contract, very few permanent fulltime, an excess of applicants for every job, and below average salaries in a place with super high cost of living, it's a mess. Curious, how is the Pacific Northwest for IT positions at the moment? (Not Development)
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Tab8715 posted:Curious, how is the Pacific Northwest for IT positions at the moment? In Portland, it's decent: http://portland.craigslist.org/search/sad
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kensei posted:In Portland, it's decent: Just be prepared for Portland. It's a special place.
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Tab8715 posted:20 Years Experience doing what? Everything from "senior architect" to network engineer Tab8715 posted:Curious, how is the Pacific Northwest for IT positions at the moment? Vancouver is going to be different from the american pacific northwest region for sure, I can't comment on Seattle/Portland/etc.
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Lord Dudeguy posted:Anybody here doing SSL Proxy (DPI-SSL, or any other enterprise-sanctioned MITM Attack) to scan users' Internet traffic? What are you doing now that Certificate Pinning is making that security requirement obsolete/broken? Turn it off and enforce stuff at the endpoint if you have a requirement for doing it.
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Thanks Ants posted:Turn it off and enforce stuff at the endpoint if you have a requirement for doing it. Forgive my ignorance, but how do I enforce traffic scanning at the endpoint-level? You mean with a DLP Agent and anti-virus, yeah?
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Colonial Air Force posted:Just be prepared for Portland. It's a special place. Great beer scene, legal weed, good public transit, tons of poo poo to do outdoors, and the Portlandia hipster culture is vastly overstated. That said, the traffic sucks and the housing costs are getting dumb, don't move here.
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kensei posted:In Portland, it's decent:
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Lord Dudeguy posted:Forgive my ignorance, but how do I enforce traffic scanning at the endpoint-level? You mean with a DLP Agent and anti-virus, yeah? Yeah basically. We've resigned ourselves to moving what was originally done on the endpoint and then moved into the network back onto the endpoint as either you end up breaking everything or like you found out you have to whitelist so much stuff that it becomes pointless.
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Lord Dudeguy posted:Anybody here doing SSL Proxy (DPI-SSL, or any other enterprise-sanctioned MITM Attack) to scan users' Internet traffic? What are you doing now that Certificate Pinning is making that security requirement obsolete/broken? As I understood it if you have a proxy configured (say via a PAC file) then your browser ignores the pin. For example Charles works for me with my personal CA sniffing Google traffic.
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