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hello egyptian here, egypt is safe, but also gently caress it straight to hell
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don't go to lovely touristy spots with lovely must-see sites. take a trip to morocco for the markets and local arts, iceland for the diving and aurora borealis, turkey for all the weird wonderful scenery like natural hot springs, north-west china for the funky cuisine and then motorbike through the himalayas. do weird, wonderful things where you discover things about yourself, opop. and most importantly of all, use an airmiles card for it all. Ernie. fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Jan 22, 2016 04:18
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gently caress Morocco.
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Jan 22, 2016 04:19
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Also I think everyone at some point really should go on one of those Antarctic cruises I mentioned. They are not your average cruise liner, not even close, but drat do you get to see some cool stuff.
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Jan 22, 2016 04:20
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Kashuno posted:gently caress Morocco. why?
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Jan 22, 2016 04:21
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Kashuno posted:Also I think everyone at some point really should go on one of those Antarctic cruises I mentioned. They are not your average cruise liner, not even close, but drat do you get to see some cool stuff. is there unlimited shrimp and pizza?
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Jan 22, 2016 04:21
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I had a friend that just went to morocco by herself and she said it was amazing, but she is very adventurous. do it with a tour group?
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Jan 22, 2016 04:22
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busb posted:I had a friend that just went to morocco by herself and she said it was amazing, but she is very adventurous. do it with a tour group? 
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Jan 22, 2016 04:24
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busb posted:I had a friend that just went to morocco by herself and she said it was amazing, but she is very adventurous. do it with a tour group? I did it with Intrepid. It was good
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Jan 22, 2016 04:26
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Also Ernie, I know Abu Simbel and Valley of the Kings are super touristy but they were also amazing. Although I think I got lucky with the tourist situation. Because I went not long after the Arab Spring tourist numbers were extremely low compared to normal. It was really sad in some places where there were locals whose only income was from tourists to see how badly they were suffering.
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Jan 22, 2016 04:29
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i think i'm doing it wrong, people are agreeing with me. Just go to Darwin, it's where all the cool people live. I will go to Egypt one day. Also Mesopotamia hopefully but i get so angry and sad every time i see IS has destroyed another building or relic from before their god was even born 
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Jan 22, 2016 04:31
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don't go to Antarctica it is terrible for the environment there
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Jan 22, 2016 05:28
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Ecco send me that salmon from three pages ago. They're closing my school district two hours early tomorrow because the state is in a cold weather state of emergency. Current forecast for tomorrow is 45 degrees and light rain.
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Jan 22, 2016 05:32
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Birdstrike posted:don't go to Antarctica it is terrible for the environment there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH573B1bkHI
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Jan 22, 2016 05:48
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Opop wherever you go make a side visit to a glacier before they all melt
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Jan 22, 2016 05:49
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skipping 6100+ posts to say holy drat there are a lot of smileys i didn't know existed
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Jan 22, 2016 05:54
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haha I wrote an essay for an intl. environmental law course about it in 09
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Jan 22, 2016 06:13
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I disagree with Ernie, and as much as the "local culture" of places is nice and all to get an "authentic" experience you'll never do more in a day than when you are with a tour group. Yes they are to tourist spots, but they're tourist spots because quite frankly they are amazing. You also learn a whole bunch from your tour guide which is nice. I guess it depends on why you go on vacation, but if I'm going to see something amazing in the world then I want to have an expert there to help me see as much of it as possible. I don't really care about the modern people and understanding their lives since that's not what I'm there to see (assuming the tourism isn't harmful for the area). I'm there to see the history and wonder of it all. People are people everywhere.
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Asiina posted:I disagree with Ernie, and as much as the "local culture" of places is nice and all to get an "authentic" experience you'll never do more in a day than when you are with a tour group. Yes they are to tourist spots, but they're tourist spots because quite frankly they are amazing. You also learn a whole bunch from your tour guide which is nice. If you go to France, see all the landmarks and go home, how have you really bettered yourself as a person? You've gotten to check off a line on a bucket list, completed and arbitrary accomplishment, sure, but aside from people whose job it is to prepare that tour for you (guides, hotel staff, etc), have you really interacted with a single non-American? Have you enriched yourself or your life in any way? Or have you just done something that could be accomplished with a history book and a pair of 3D glasses? People call it the 'authentic' experience because the alternative is turning the whole visit into a glorified theme park ride.
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Jan 22, 2016 06:34
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I went to France, didn't do any tours and didn't better myself as a person so 
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Poison Mushroom posted:Someone might counterargue that if you only ever go with tour groups and on the guided showings, you're not actually experiencing the place as it is, you're getting pre-packaged, mass-produced, Theme Park versions of everything. As a girl travelling by herself to a predominantly muslim nation like morocco i would say yes, take the loving tour group. If you're travelling by yourself to a western, safe nation then do whatever you want. I personally didn't go with a tour group when i went around Europe, but you can meet all sorts of people on groups that expand your isolationist tendencies. When i was in Les Eyzies i had to talk to market stallpeople and order and try and ask them things in french and it was difficult but fun 
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Poison Mushroom posted:Someone might counterargue that if you only ever go with tour groups and on the guided showings, you're not actually experiencing the place as it is, you're getting pre-packaged, mass-produced, Theme Park versions of everything. Doesn't that depend on why and how you travel? I did a tour in Russia, but had a couple of days at the start in St Petersburg by myself. I went to a museum that had a whole bunch of scientific curiosities collected by one of the Tsar's. Did I better myself? No, but I sure as hell saw a lot of deformed animal embryo's in jars (and it was awesome).
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Birdstrike posted:I went to France, didn't do any tours and didn't better myself as a person so a shameful birb
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busb posted:As a girl travelling by herself to a predominantly muslim nation like morocco i would say yes, take the loving tour group.
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Poison Mushroom posted:Someone might counterargue that if you only ever go with tour groups and on the guided showings, you're not actually experiencing the place as it is, you're getting pre-packaged, mass-produced, Theme Park versions of everything. If you actually go to these places they are vastly different than a history book and a pair of 3D glasses. There's something about being in the middle of history, in being a building that has stood for thousands of years, standing completely surrounded by opulence (Versailles is amazing), or standing on a former battleground and still seeing the scars from the people who fought and died there almost 100 years ago. Being in those places yourself cannot be duplicated and have nothing to do with talking to the people who currently live there. It's not about them, since their experience is really not all that dissimilar to mine, but the places in their country are completely unique and span across time. If you came here, yeah I could show you the grocery store I go to or the nature trail behind my house that is like the nature trail you probably have near your house, or I could take you to one of the wonders of the world (niagara falls) or up to the seat of government in my country. While the first one is an authentic experience of my life and the culture of my area, the other gives you a chance to experience something magnificent or important that you otherwise wouldn't get to see.
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well yes but canadian and american and australian culture is boring and bad, but french is good so your argument falls a bit there
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French culture is also delicious
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busb posted:well yes but canadian and american and australian culture is boring and bad, but french is good so your argument falls a bit there Actually every French person I interacted with in France was extremely rude, but that's neither here nor there. 
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Asiina posted:Actually every French person I interacted with in France was extremely rude, but that's neither here nor there.
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Jan 22, 2016 07:06
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Make sure to constantly ask for directions to the lou-ver also especially outside paris
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Jan 22, 2016 07:07
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I haven't slept in 48 hours again, btw. This is becoming a habit so regular that I'm getting used to it.
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Japan is probably the best place i've ever travelled, and Mount fuji and enivrons the coolest place there
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also i may be biased because my bowels are currently being raped by the street food my friend insists on eating but vietnam is a shithole
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Jan 22, 2016 07:20
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hey pmush you should sleep just some advice from your good pal ecco sleep and then move
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Tommunist posted:also i may be biased because my bowels are currently being raped by the street food my friend insists on eating but vietnam is a shithole I've heard eat noodles not rice. Gl friend, Viet food is amazing
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I ever get an all-girls group together, I'm calling us Womensa just to piss people off. Edit Wrong thread, but gently caress it, it stays.
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Tommunist posted:also i may be biased because my bowels are currently being raped by the street food my friend insists on eating but vietnam is a shithole
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Birdstrike posted:I went to France, didn't do any tours and didn't better myself as a person so I did the same but I ended staying. Don't know if I'm a better person yet. France has been brought up as a tourist destination and it's well worth it. However, I'll recommend that you avoid Paris if you really want to see some different things. I was pretty surprised to find out just how big, and just how much variety France has. It's a beautiful country and if you can get a hold of a car or plan out the trip well enough with trains and a train pass there are some frankly incredible things you can see. I'm a big big fan of Brittney since I love rocky forgotten coasts, like the the ones in New England, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Ireland, and Scotland. You can also see Neolithic stone structures similar to Stonehenge and just meet nice people and see pretty little towns and villages, assuming they survived WWII. While the Riviera gets a lot of tourism just north of it is a gorgeous area called La Provence. My partner's grandmother originates from there so we've spent a couple of summers down there and it's incredible. It's pretty much the foothills of the alps and you have this wonderful hills and clear blue sky come spring and summer. A couple natural wonders around there are the Gorges de Verdun, a cayon that cuts right into the beginning of the Alps, as well as generally cool rock formations. We took a car down and while just driving back from Avignon (the papal palace there wow) we saw in the distance a castle amongst some crags. We figure out how to get there and turns out it's a medieval town that's been restored and kept (so very few people actually live there) but to see where it's built is pretty crazy. A lot of these things are domestically touristy, but tend to be clear of a lot of international tourists. Also if you do go to the south the French Basque country is gorgeous with the coast and the forested Pyrenees. It's also around there, pretty much starting around Toulouse, that you see the grottos with the cavemen paintings and I don't think I've ever been so moved than to see those paintings. I didn't go to the famous one, but another one where you can see the paintings themselves since they tightly control the entry to it. Asiina posted:Actually every French person I interacted with in France was extremely rude, but that's neither here nor there. That... can happen. Particularly in Paris and especially in the touristy areas. I've met nothing but nice people area else outside of Marseille. Marseille is special like Paris.
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