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PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Mikl posted:

Turns out I was misremembering, here's the AAR on the Japanese side.

Here is about where he invades Hokkaido.

Then he tried to land at Akita after conquering Hokkaido, and succeeds after murdering the battleship/cruiser force the Japanese player had sent to stop him (this is what I was remembering). Then the Japanese player "lost" the savegame, the turn was replayed, and the battleship/cruiser force was fine and the landings were repelled (from the thread: "about 9000 AV was moved to Akita almost overnight before the attack").

After that the Allied player changed tactics, conquered Sadogashima, and later on got a lot of his air force murdered on the ground in Hokkaido (in the thread they called "overstacking on the Japanese side" but I have no clue what that means), and his CVs a little earlier than that. Then a while after that the game came to a stalemate, they got tired and called it quits.

Gods, trying to follow this makes me appreciate how good of a job Grey does bringing us actual screenshots.

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ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


[/quote]
All of Gary's games need to be easier to mod. I'd blow hours and hours in a Japanese invasion scenario. I'd also play in a game where the Japanese player was allowed to hold out, at the cost of PPs--you've got to successfully quietly coup the emperor--such that an invasion of the islands needs to be staged.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Mikl posted:

I forgot, have we gotten a carrier sinking in this LP yet? I don't think so, but I could've missed it.

Not yet. Two of Grey's Carriers have been hit but haven't sunk (yet) and I dont think we've seen any allied carriers since thy cut a bloody swath back east.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

ZombieLenin posted:

All of Gary's games need to be easier to mod. I'd blow hours and hours in a Japanese invasion scenario. I'd also play in a game where the Japanese player was allowed to hold out, at the cost of PPs--you've got to successfully quietly coup the emperor--such that an invasion of the islands needs to be staged.

There's a specific Operation Downfall scenario in WITP that starts in late '45 and is focused on breaking into and landing on the Home Islands, if that's what you're into.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Ikasuhito posted:

Not yet. Two of Grey's Carriers have been hit but haven't sunk (yet) and I dont think we've seen any allied carriers since thy cut a bloody swath back east.

I think the speculation is actually that they were dashing to Australia; but yeah, we haven't seen them in a while.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

ZombieLenin posted:

All of Gary's games need to be easier to mod. I'd blow hours and hours in a Japanese invasion scenario. I'd also play in a game where the Japanese player was allowed to hold out, at the cost of PPs--you've got to successfully quietly coup the emperor--such that an invasion of the islands needs to be staged.

There's an Operation Downfall scenario that's specifically about playing out in the area in and around the Japanese home islands in late 1945 and performing a land invasion.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

PittTheElder posted:

I think the speculation is actually that they were dashing to Australia; but yeah, we haven't seen them in a while.

They are loving plotting with the battleships, because grey hunter maybe failed to sink ANY.

Sammich Reaper
Apr 25, 2006

AtomikKrab posted:

They are loving plotting with the battleships, because grey hunter maybe failed to sink ANY.

*Again

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

AtomikKrab posted:

They are loving plotting with the battleships, because grey hunter maybe failed to sink ANY.

Is Grey just unlucky, or is WitP just that bad at modeling single actions? Is there any possibility of a "battle off Samar" type action, for example, or would Japanese BBs and CAs brush aside Allied DEs and CVEs every time?

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Davin Valkri posted:

Is Grey just unlucky, or is WitP just that bad at modeling single actions? Is there any possibility of a "battle off Samar" type action, for example, or would Japanese BBs and CAs brush aside Allied DEs and CVEs every time?

If Taffy-3 vs the entire Japanese Battleship fleet happened all over again, it would end in a dead Taffy-3, like it loving should've.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

goatface posted:

A single unit of Panthers starting the war in the Mongolian Gobi. Your mission is to somehow keep them fuelled and repaired long enough for them to abuse Chinese infantry's near complete lack of AT weapons.

I'm picturing a mostly nonfunctional Panther being pulled into battle by a team of Japanese tanks, like sled-dogs.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Chantilly Say posted:

I'm picturing a mostly nonfunctional Panther being pulled into battle by a team of Japanese tanks, like sled-dogs.

But are they naval or army tanks?

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

A White Guy posted:

If Taffy-3 vs the entire Japanese Battleship fleet happened all over again, it would end in a dead Taffy-3, like it loving should've.

And like it mostly did. Too bad the Japanese reported they ran into a heavy section of battleships and cruisers instead. :black101:

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Cythereal posted:

And like it mostly did. Too bad the Japanese reported they ran into a heavy section of battleships and cruisers instead. :black101:

quote:

As he retreated north and then west through the San Bernardino Strait, the smaller and heavily damaged American force continued to press the battle. While watching the Japanese retreat, Admiral Sprague heard a nearby sailor exclaim: "drat it, boys, they're getting away!"

:allears:

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
that's an inspirational story like no other

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


ZombieLenin posted:

All of Gary's games need to be easier to mod. I'd blow hours and hours in a Japanese invasion scenario. I'd also play in a game where the Japanese player was allowed to hold out, at the cost of PPs--you've got to successfully quietly coup the emperor--such that an invasion of the islands needs to be staged.

I've tried to get into the scenario creator and it's just the most obtuse thing ever, even by grog standards. I think at one point Alikchi had looked into the possibility of modding the game enough to give us some sort of Kaiserreich-inspired scenario, but the game is basically unmoddable to a large enough degree to make that possible.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






We strike a troop transport. I think Singapore is going to be a tough nut to crack.



If only I hadn't had to pull my carriers out.



We begin to attack Johore Bahru. We have the forces to do this, with more on the way.







Good sub.







Dear Commander.
A bombardment attack is where you throw shells at the enemy, not when you strap shells to your men and have them make Banzai charges at the enemy.
Yours,
Imperial Command.



One more day of this should do it!







The enemy at Changsha continue to crumble.



We win another victory around Sinyang.







We are so close to taking Manilla. Once the city falls, everything will hit Bataan and we can move on – hopefully I can break them quicker than Iba last time around.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Grey Hunter posted:

Dear Commander.
A bombardment attack is where you throw shells at the enemy, not when you strap shells to your men and have them make Banzai charges at the enemy.
Yours,
Imperial Command.


Dont be absurd Grey, no commander would be so foolish as to waist valuable shells like that. Clearly what happend is that they loaded the soldiers themselves into their guns and fired them over the allies defensive's so they could engage them in personal combat. I for one think we should applaud his ingenuity as because of it we are now seven soldiers closer to victory.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Manila is haemorrhaging allied combat squads. It should be tomorrow.

edit - So probably next week sometime.

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.

goatface posted:

Manila is haemorrhaging allied combat squads. It should be tomorrow.

edit - So probably next week sometime.

Still, even if Manila's defenders hold til next week, at least it'll fall some time before Bataan, which if current divisional CO's tactics are anything to measure by, will collapse sometime in 2018.

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013

Serpentis posted:

Still, even if Manila's defenders hold til next week, at least it'll fall some time before Bataan, which if current divisional CO's tactics are anything to measure by, will collapse sometime in 2018.

2018 as in 1944 or a 74 year siege lasting beyond the game end?

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.

Dreamsicle posted:

2018 as in 1944 or a 74 year siege lasting beyond the game end?

Well, I meant the former, but given how long KIAfeng took in the Allied game...

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
Did you pull a lot of troops from other theatres to free them up for the Philippines? Once we've wrapped the Philippines up, I'm guessing the pace will pick up as troops are freed for attacking other areas? We haven't seen any real attack on the Dutch East Indies or Burma yet.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Let's Play! > War in the Pacific Day by Day - One more day of this should do it!

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






I'm sorry, you did not file form 32B in triplicate.







Right, I'm giving this up until I find more Zeros.



We need more supplies here, but everything else is in our favour – there are plenty of supplies to the north, but they need shipping down, so I'll send some more ships in.







We are just killing them here now – they can't hold out for much longer.



Bataan is the best defended place on the island, I launch an attack to try and break them. Thats a lot of enemy squads disabled, so I may try another day of attacks.







This is an auto attack, but we at least destroy more squads than we lose.







We've cleared out most of the easy spots now, so we just need to crack a couple of hardspots, then its on to phase two.



Aww, if that's true, then that's the end of my Bureaucracy jokes. You may like that.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Grey Hunter posted:

Aww, if that's true, then that's the end of my Bureaucracy jokes. You may like that.


RIP :(

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010
Naval bureaucracy jokes? We can't get enough of that chit.

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.
God knows Grey has form.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

gradenko_2000 posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > Let's Play! > War in the Pacific Day by Day - One more day of this should do it!

Grey Hunter posted:




Bataan is the best defended place on the island, I launch an attack to try and break them. Thats a lot of enemy squads disabled, so I may try another day of attacks.

And I have nothing further to add.

[quote]


Aww, if that's true, then that's the end of my Bureaucracy jokes. You may like that.

With only 1 hit, I find that unlikely.

MagicBoots
Mar 29, 2010

How about we pump the atmosphere full of methane?
You put me on Cargo handling optimization?! I am the premier defense specialist in the entirety of the UN!
Don't you dare pull my funding!
You can't cut back on funding!
You will regret this!

Veloxyll posted:

With only 1 hit, I find that unlikely.

One hit from a depth charge is more than enough to kill a sub.

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
Can someone explain the auto shock attack to me? I thought that only happened when crossing rivers or amphibious atoll landings.

Adar
Jul 27, 2001
Out of morbid curiosity at the groggish-ness of this game, what happens if, as the Japanese, you invade Hawaii, move everything you have to it and use it as a springboard to invade the US vs. the AI? I know some big stack of death spawns in California but aside from that has anyone seriously tried to do this while ignoring all the other theaters? Surely you could squeeze a million or so infantry and everything else on boats in 1942-ish if you really tried hard enough and didn't care what happened in China?

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

pthighs posted:

Can someone explain the auto shock attack to me? I thought that only happened when crossing rivers or amphibious atoll landings.

"Something something local commander initiative" probably.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Adar posted:

Out of morbid curiosity at the groggish-ness of this game, what happens if, as the Japanese, you invade Hawaii, move everything you have to it and use it as a springboard to invade the US vs. the AI? I know some big stack of death spawns in California but aside from that has anyone seriously tried to do this while ignoring all the other theaters? Surely you could squeeze a million or so infantry and everything else on boats in 1942-ish if you really tried hard enough and didn't care what happened in China?

As far as I understand it, actually invading (and holding) the Hawaiian Islands as Japan is pretty much impossible. It would be a hell of a sight to see, though.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
So, why are non-troop transports important? I assume sinking them either slows production or leaves ships without gas somewhere in the middle of the Pacific, but I could be completely wrong.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Supplies need to be shipped.

Adar
Jul 27, 2001

Drone posted:

As far as I understand it, actually invading (and holding) the Hawaiian Islands as Japan is pretty much impossible. It would be a hell of a sight to see, though.

Is it possible if you drop all pretense of trying to win the game and grog the engine into submission in the two (Hawaii/California) spots? Just curious how far you can break it.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!

Adar posted:

Is it possible if you drop all pretense of trying to win the game and grog the engine into submission in the two (Hawaii/California) spots? Just curious how far you can break it.
Spoilered on the off chance that somebody who posts to the Matrix forums also reads this LP:

I believe there are two AARs over on the Matrix forums where the Japanese player took Hawaii, and in at least one of them the Japanese player actually is intending to land in California at some point in late 1942.

That one is Lowpe vs. JocMeister; the first one, I think, has John 3rd playing the Japanese, but I don't remember the Allied player.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Fat Samurai posted:

So, why are non-troop transports important? I assume sinking them either slows production or leaves ships without gas somewhere in the middle of the Pacific, but I could be completely wrong.

The game tracks supplies. You need merchant ships to haul "beans, bullets and gas" across the ocean.

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Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




Fat Samurai posted:

So, why are non-troop transports important? I assume sinking them either slows production or leaves ships without gas somewhere in the middle of the Pacific, but I could be completely wrong.

How well do you think you could fight if your uniforms have rotted away, you're completely out of ammo, your radios have rusted away, your tanks are out of gas, and all your soldiers starved to death three weeks ago?

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