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Advice posted:Brook said the name Vinsmoke sent chills down his spine. I don't think the World Nobles are well known to common folk, I wonder if instead, Sanji is just from some notorious kingdom? He's at least important enough that Big Mom wants into the bloodline. Maybe not World Noble, but what about a step down from that with national noble? There seemed to be a point of difference with that in the Goa Kingdom (Luffy's hometown).
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Jose posted:whitebeard started a war with them and shanks just rocked up i don't think the emperor's give a poo poo about the marines. Looks like Oda can't make up his mind on whether it's Mom or Mam: http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Charlotte_Linlin (scroll down to the Translation Issues section)
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Jan 21, 2016 23:08
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Maybe not World Noble, but what about a step down from that with national noble? There seemed to be a point of difference with that in the Goa Kingdom (Luffy's hometown). There does seem to be a difference between the world nobles (tenryuubito) and just regular kings and whatnot. One group lives exclusively in Mariejois and wears space suits, while the others are just rulers of kingdoms. There was a flashback where Wapol and Vivi's dad met at a big council of kings in Mariejois so there is some connection to the world government still, but there is a distinction.
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Jan 21, 2016 23:13
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Big Mam/mom wants an excuse to get into Reverie, maybe?
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Jan 21, 2016 23:14
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Crazyeyes posted:Big Mam/mom wants an excuse to get into Reverie, maybe? Whereas Whitebeard (well, formerly) seems to be into personal family and allegiances, Blackbeard seems to be about amassing personal power via Devil Fruits, Shanks is all about casual partying and personal freedom, Kaidou is about building up an army and the rules of combat (Strength is the only Law, etc), Big Mom seems to be all about traditional politics and royal family marriages to consolidate power. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reverie coming soon will be play a role in this, that's a good point you bring up. On that note, each Yonkou seems to have a defining personal philosophy which they abide by (Whitebeard's ironclad rule of not betraying family being violated by Blackbeard, etc). Luffy's will probably follow in Shanks's footsteps after he (most likely) kicks the bucket of being the man with the most freedom on the seas being the Pirate King, which is what Rayleigh recognizes as a philosophy befitting the man succeeding Roger.
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Begemot posted:There does seem to be a difference between the world nobles (tenryuubito) and just regular kings and whatnot. One group lives exclusively in Mariejois and wears space suits, while the others are just rulers of kingdoms. There was a flashback where Wapol and Vivi's dad met at a big council of kings in Mariejois so there is some connection to the world government still, but there is a distinction. Still, wasn't the Nefrititi (the family Cobra/Vivi are from) among the founding nobles Doffy listed off in addition to the Donquixote family prior to the Void Century? Vinsmoke might be part of that cadre.
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Jan 21, 2016 23:34
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I like that Capone has a non-generic henchman now, who will probably fight one of the SH crew later... although I bet he's tired about all those jokes about his giant hands, the first such incident occurred in....
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DeadBonesBrook posted:I like that Capone has a non-generic henchman now, who will probably fight one of the SH crew later... although I bet he's tired about all those jokes about his giant hands, the first such incident occurred in.... at first I thought it was really poorly drawn foreshortening... then I saw the next panel and he does in fact have giant comedy hands. Oda does it again!
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I'm on my phone. Somebody dig up what Dofy said about the royal families. I think we have a hanging plot thread there. IIRC, he said all but two of the original families live in Mariejois. One was the Nefetiris, and he casually didn't mention the other one. If I'm right, there's your Vinsmokes.
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Space-Bird posted:at first I thought it was really poorly drawn foreshortening... then I saw the next panel and he does in fact have giant comedy hands. Oda does it again! Giant hands perfect for whispering secrets with! 
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Advice posted:I'm on my phone. Somebody dig up what Dofy said about the royal families. I think we have a hanging plot thread there. IIRC, he said all but two of the original families live in Mariejois. One was the Nefetiris, and he casually didn't mention the other one. If I'm right, there's your Vinsmokes. You could be right about the two families thing, but I should point out that the Nefertitis aren't technically World Nobles. They were one of the twenty founding families of the world government, like Doflamingo's family, but they refused to leave Arabasta so they are just a plain old royal family.
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Advice posted:I'm on my phone. Somebody dig up what Dofy said about the royal families. I think we have a hanging plot thread there. IIRC, he said all but two of the original families live in Mariejois. One was the Nefetiris, and he casually didn't mention the other one. If I'm right, there's your Vinsmokes. Pretty sure the other family he was referring to is the Doflamingo family
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Crazyeyes posted:Big Mam/mom wants an excuse to get into Reverie, maybe? Sanji is being married off to the 35th daughter of the Charolotte family, Big Mom is already some level of royalty. Also Sanji implies that it was someone in/connected to his family who set up the wedding. Crazyeyes posted:Pretty sure the other family he was referring to is the Doflamingo family No, the Doflamingo family hosed off to Mariejois with the rest of the people. Then the Riku family were elevated to the royal family of Dressrosa. Mango's dad realized that all that wold noble stuff was bullshit and gave it up, which is what made spoiled rear end in a top hat Doflamingo into who he is today.
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It was also Brook who said it, which means it could have been a noble family who did something infamous back when he was originally active/alive. It does seem like nowadays they mostly stay isolated, but that may have not always been the case with every single family.
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Jan 22, 2016 01:03
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so "Pudding" is going to be Jewelry Bonney isn't it?
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NecroMonster posted:so "Pudding" is going to be Jewelry Bonney isn't it? Please yes
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Maybe Capone's Devil Fruit powers play on the term "castle" loosely and allow him to transform himself into "castle" or "fortress"-like objects such as with the tank treads in this chapter. What are other castle-like objects you can think of? Maybe Capone can turn into a Boeing B-29 Superfortress plane and carry all his crew inside and drop firebombs on people? Yeah maybe its powers are just very vague like Law's fruit.
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It's still a little ambiguous how old she actually is. That could get a mite weird.
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Jan 22, 2016 01:27
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Brook was an elite warrior for "a certain kingdom" before joining the Rumba Pirates, Could he have been working for Sanji's Family decades ago? Or at least active in that area of the world.
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AtomikKrab posted:Brook was an elite warrior for "a certain kingdom" before joining the Rumba Pirates, Could he have been working for Sanji's Family decades ago? Or at least active in that area of the world. Wasn't Brook a famous high muckety muck in his kingdom before becoming a pirate? Sure it was decades ago but you'd think Sanji would have heard of him if he was from the same country. Like if a skeleton started talking about how he was Sgt. York.
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AtomikKrab posted:Brook was an elite warrior for "a certain kingdom" before joining the Rumba Pirates, Could he have been working for Sanji's Family decades ago? Or at least active in that area of the world. Huh? I don't remember hearing about this. Source?
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AtomikKrab posted:Brook was an elite warrior for "a certain kingdom" before joining the Rumba Pirates, Could he have been working for Sanji's Family decades ago? Or at least active in that area of the world. Yeah that's an interesting concept, I think he was the captain of the guard for some place. He at the very least knows who the Vinsmokes are. I think I'm really going to love this arc. Sanji used to be my favorite character and so far he's been written as the same dude I hella liked all those years ago. It's really cool that he's back to replace Swirly Nosebleed Guy.
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Awesome chapter. I love that even though Sanji is potentially a celestial dragon he decided to serve others. And the declaration of Luffy becoming the pirate King was epic!!!
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Jan 22, 2016 03:42
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He was the leader of a "Battle Convoy", whatever that is.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Huh? I don't remember hearing about this. Let me check I think it was when they first showed off his bounty picture? the old one from 50 years ago. HERE this chapter! Oh yeah thats an important rear end chapter since it shows Ace's card being wrecked, also previously I missed franky being MANLY and SUAVE as he let's lola down easy when she offers to marry him. He was the convoy leader for a kingdoms battle fleet, in other words he was a captain before becoming a first mate and then a musician? AtomikKrab fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Jan 22, 2016 03:51
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Actually, isn't Brook from West Blue? I think that's where Laboon is from.
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Gyges posted:Actually, isn't Brook from West Blue? I think that's where Laboon is from. They met Laboon in West Blue but I don't believe it has been stated explicitly that that is where he is from.
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Brook might be my second favorite StrawHat behind Franky. He's got such a good backstory, his powers are awesome, and skull jokes are great. I'm glad Sanji decided to take him along to meet Capone last chapter, if the other crew members think he's strong that's Oda saying he'll get more fights in the future.
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Crazyeyes posted:They met Laboon in West Blue but I don't believe it has been stated explicitly that that is where he is from. Isn't it mentioned in the chapter linked that all the Rumbars are from west blue? Since he said its good they're buried on a piece of their homeland (Thriller Bark)
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Kild posted:Isn't it mentioned in the chapter linked that all the Rumbars are from west blue? Since he said its good they're buried on a piece of their homeland (Thriller Bark) So it does.
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AtomikKrab posted:Let me check I think it was when they first showed off his bounty picture? the old one from 50 years ago. Oh right, Nami still has the Vivre card for Lola's Mom. Maybe that will become relevant in the next few chapters.
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I wonder how Wano will play into all this. Before, after, or part of this arc?
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Do you think it's possible Bege has Observation Haki? It seems like he noticed Nekomamushi even though he was inside of his body.
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Scratchman Apoo posted:Do you think it's possible Bege has Observation Haki? It seems like he noticed Nekomamushi even though he was inside of his body. It's also possible that he has a window out the back of his head, hidden by his hat/hair, where his gang can keep watch 
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alkanphel posted:I wonder how Wano will play into all this. Before, after, or part of this arc? I expect sanji to take precedence over the samurai post elephant island, but it's hard to say what'll happen between them leaving there and finding where he is
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Mr. Fowl posted:It's also possible that he has a window out the back of his head, hidden by his hat/hair, where his gang can keep watch this isn't possible, it's 100% true no way it loving isn't
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or he can see an act normally even while inside his own head. since he was walking while they were talking
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dazoner posted:And the declaration of Luffy becoming the pirate King was epic!!! Indeed.  What the hell is going on? I like Star Wars again and now I like Sanji again. Are we going back in time?
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Scratchman Apoo posted:Do you think it's possible Bege has Observation Haki? It seems like he noticed Nekomamushi even though he was inside of his body. It would be pretty sad if a Supernova chilling in the new world couldn't use CoO when Mr. I Literally Get Lost Running In A Straight Line can. But dude's loving huge, that's how he noticed him.
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NecroMonster posted:so "Pudding" is going to be Jewelry Bonney isn't it?
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