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Bell_ posted:Maybe the answer to Blossom will be Claire putting the fear of fire into her. Pfft, she's clearly going to end up Blossom's spunky sidekick as they clean up the school... or perhaps destroy it to save it.
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Ryan is going to take over as whatever the disciplinarian job is called, and the circle will be complete once a kid shoots out his eye.
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See, there is a problem and Ryan is trying to solve it. He has no choice but to become Knotty MkII because no one else will.
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Honestly, this arc is kind of rubbing me the wrong way. "Pantywaist modern methods can't deal with young hooligans! Back in my day we would have beaten them raw with a belt and then told them to rub some dirt on it!" If you can't actually back up your view, just invent a world where your opponents are idiots and your methods always work.
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This arc has filled me with a sense of dread since the beginning, like something really terrible and hosed up is right around the corner even though most of the conflicts so far have been resolved with relatively small collateral damage. The meaning of the title of the arc still isn't quite apparent yet.
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7c Nickel posted:Honestly, this arc is kind of rubbing me the wrong way. it's kind of odd because it initially took the opposite tack, where Bostwick was terrifying the likes of Colm  
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7c Nickel posted:Honestly, this arc is kind of rubbing me the wrong way. Well, bear in mind that a running theme, or gag of... well, the entire SGR/Bobbins universe in fact, is people out-smarting themselves or just generally being brought down by hubris. Almost everyone with grand schemes has an appropriately ironic comeuppance at some point- if they didn't just get Shelly'd. So this is really just the inevitable punchline to a "hot young moderniser with plans to revolutionise the system" plotline. I'm not sure it says much about Allison beyond the fact that it's a joke he likes to keep coming back to. I don't think he's old enough to have fond memories of caning, anyway- he would have been ten when we outlawed corporal punishment in schools. Also, remember Ole Knotty isn't actually all that harsh a disciplinarian. He seemed to take a, contractual? Approach to mischief. As in, "I know you're going to break the rules, and you know you're going to break the rules, because you're kids and kids are going to be kids, and if I catch you I'll have to punish you, but if you've done your time you've done your time and I'm not going to actively go looking for skulls to break unless the school is literally on fire." This is the man who wasn't all that fussed when "Ryan" put out his eye. Leroy Dennui posted:This arc has filled me with a sense of dread since the beginning, like something really terrible and hosed up is right around the corner even though most of the conflicts so far have been resolved with relatively small collateral damage. Well, it is "Missing", so you're looking for the hole rather than the object itself  I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess it's "compassion". The plot seems to revolve around Darren and Blossom, both of whom are angry outsiders whose anti-social behaviour drives the people around them away. I think the moral of the story is going to be that, while these are genuinely terrible people in a lot of ways, their terrible behaviour is as much something they've been forced into as it is something they chose, and telling them they're irredeemable scum before disowning them is just aggravating the situation. Blossom is angry and abusive because her life to point was about being ostracised and abused, so why not hit back now she has the power? Darren doesn't actually want to be a criminal, he made a decent fist of going straight but now he's up poo poo creek with no support system whatsoever. In short, I think this is going to be the story of How The Wickle Family (And Society) hosed Up. e: I don't know if this ties into the Knotty/discipline subplot more than tangentially. If you wanted to try and salvage a decent moral from that you could try, "The honour system only works if the kids respect you, and they're not going to respect you if they've been locked into an adversarial relationship with adults for their entire lives up until this point," but that's "too little too late", the exact opposite of "don't give up too soon". KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jan 21, 2016 |
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Yeah, the last couple pages have felt weirdly like "John has opinions about discipline", but the Botswick stuff didn't feel that way before, it was more just on the silly end.
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Blossom is the worst, though. She won't even send the club newsletter! How could she be part of the council of bitches?
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ronya posted:it's kind of odd because it initially took the opposite tack, where Bostwick was terrifying the likes of Colm I think it's cringe more than fear.
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Acknowledging that kids left unchallenged are completely terrible isn't an endorsement of caning. Knotty might have been very intimidating to kids but he did his best to keep them out of trouble, as opposed to punishing them because he enjoyed it.
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Dang, haven't seen Elliot in a while (from today's bobbins.horse). I believe he was the token computer nerd character back in original bobbins.
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Yeah, Knotty is actually quite caring and nice as well as being intimidating, see for instance him submitting Ryan's poems for an award. He goes out of his way to actually help the kids despite being a scary dude.
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On an unrelated note: Just reread The Case of the Fire Inside. So  .I think it's probably the best of all the cases.
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team overhead smash posted:He goes out of his way to actually help the kids despite being a scary dude. He's not even a scary dude for the sake of it; he knows it's the only way to keep kids out of trouble.
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Yvonmukluk posted:On an unrelated note: Just reread The Case of the Fire Inside. So When the book comes out, I plan on grabbing an extra couple as gifts.
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team overhead smash posted:Yeah, Knotty is actually quite caring and nice as well as being intimidating, see for instance him submitting Ryan's poems for an award. He goes out of his way to actually help the kids despite being a scary dude. He's the Anthony DeMartino of Tackleford.
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Oh, THIS one takes me back! edit: likelihood of Shauna wandering by and leaving four, maybe five corpses in her wake?
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Numero6 posted:Latest comic made me wonder if Games Workshop is still good in the Tackleford universe. I take it as further proof of Blossom being awful.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I take it as further proof of Blossom being awful. Uh, Blossom is wading into a situation where she is maybe going to get beaten up by a bunch of bullies because she thinks they are picking on a poor kid, and you think this is proof she is awful
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Blossom suddenly looks pretty small there. I do like the change in her attitude, though. She beat the crap out of this Tania girl before because she felt like it. And then she destroyed Ole Knotty for no reason other than lashing out at the world. But now, it's a change like Darren showed after being told off by Shauna, where both are obviously trying to be better persons in their own way. Who will get then demolished by circunstances and back to being awful, but for that one moment you could see a glimpse of hope for them.
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Fangz posted:Uh, Blossom is wading into a situation where she is maybe going to get beaten up by a bunch of bullies because she thinks they are picking on a poor kid, and you think this is proof she is awful I was talking specifically about her reading White Dwarf. It was, as you say, a joke. (I probably could have been clearer).
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Empress Theonora posted:I really appreciate that every time we see a Warhammer model in Bad Machinery it's one of those goofy beaky space marines from Rogue Trader. In the Tackleford universe, it's always the Rogue Trader era.
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It's kind of sad that apparently Shauna has essentially been dragged down into the crab bucket by Darren & Blossom being shitheads. Like, she was genuinely trying to help them. poo poo, why did Blossom tell Daz about Shauna snitching when he was the one she was mad at? I mean don't get me wrong, standing up for Blossom is the right thing (as much as anything in this situation could be called 'the right thing'), but it feels like Shauna's promising future got crushed by malice or apathy by a bunch of people around her, despite everything she & most of those who were genuinely supporting her are doing. Then again, Ryan wound up alright after being shat upon by life a fair few times, so she'll be okay in the long run. 
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Rand Brittain posted:Lottie should be trying to help her, not threatening to end their friendship over Shauna doing the right thing. Yeah. I think Lottie is really, really being terrible in this chapter and some people don't seem to have noticed??? Like Shauna's dealing with some really difficult things but Charlotte is treating this entirely selfishly. It's not clear if she even apologised over the whole thing with Shauna's dad - which I have a suspicion is actually the real issue here. Fangz fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Jan 28, 2016 |
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Yeah, remember part of the reason Shauna is feeling particularly loyal to Blossom these days is because she leaned on that friendship as she fell out with Lottie and Mildred when they arranged that Dad thing. As far as I can tell, they never really worked that out, just kinda let it come between them and sit there for months.
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Fangz posted:Yeah. I think Lottie is really, really being terrible in this chapter and some people don't seem to have noticed??? Like Shauna's dealing with some really difficult things but Charlotte is treating this entirely selfishly. It's not clear if she even apologised over the whole thing with Shauna's dad - which I have a suspicion is actually the real issue here. To be fair, Lottie was looking at it from the perspective of somebody who lost her dad when she was very young.
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