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Blinus posted:Any chance you might do others for side characters like dead old woman or Zero 3 or G-OLM? Not sure, but I intentionally didn't say "only two left"
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With a reasonable count of 45% of 159 respondents (but only a 5pp lead), we have decided to go back and betray Tenmyouji a third time. I mean, a second time. I mean, technically, it's the first time - you know what I mean. Previously on this route: Quark is cured, and Tenmyouji has discovered the recording from the Mars Mission Test Site. It becomes eerily apparent that humanity might be hosed, but the AB Game starts before anyone can expound on this. Sigma promises Tenmyouji he'll ally, suggesting Tenmyouji do the same else risk killing Sigma, and argues he won't betray because that might put Clover over the top. Tenmyouji promises to ally. Sigma has barely shut the door when... Clover immediately starts pressuring Sigma to hit betray, promising she'll listen to anything he says if he goes along with it. I'm convinced. Please direct your attention to the results screen. This is fine.
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Jan 22, 2016 22:06
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Well poo poo.
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You don't fuckin' say.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBx7Jg4m-o
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Jan 22, 2016 22:11
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Clover's hitting those 9s in a row now
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VLR OST: [Eeriness] Listen in: [English/Japanese] Promises are made to be broken, I see. Sorry... I just couldn't bring myself to trust you. I could have chosen "betray" and killed you. That was a possibility. Yeah. After all, you did choose "betray" in the last round. That was a completely different situation... ... ... How do you intend to deal with that? Don't worry. She'd never try and open the— Really. Then what's that? Huh...? Look. I believe she's standing in front of the number nine door right now. Wh-What the hell!? [Music fades out] VLR OST: [Strain] Oh...the number nine door... She opened it! poo poo...! Sorry! Alice gave me an order, though. My BP's down to 1. I'll have to play the AB Game at least 3 more times in order to get to 9. If someone beats me to it, then we'll be trapped here forever. That can't happen. I am giving you an order as your commanding officer. ... ... Promise? You said you'd listen to anything I said! So? I am, aren't I? I can sure hear you well enough. Every little word is reaching my ears, isn't it? Y-You... What, were you thinking of something gross? You're a perv. H-Hey, come on now! The number nine door has been opened. It will remain open for 9 seconds. Clover! Clover! You loving bitch! You're not getting out of here! Dio leapt toward Clover with a roar, but she danced quickly aside, dodging his punch with ease. Bye guys! With a last carefree grin, she leapt through the number nine door. [Music fades out] The number nine door has closed. This ends the Nonary Game. Thank you for your participation. As the game is over, all doors other than the number nine door have been unlocked. Escape is not possible. Please enjoy your stay. VLR OST: [Demise] ... ... poo poo! All we can do now is wait for her to call for help... Help, huh... Let's hope there's still someone who can... What's that supposed to mean? ... ... Tenmyouji said nothing, just shuffled off through the yellow door and out of the room. A cold silence descended on the rest of us. It was a silence that promised to remain for a very, very long time. I cannot believe we fell for that. Again. I mean-- --gently caress it. These few-minute endings add up, y'know. We've exhausted the Yellow branch of the flow chart... for now. That means we're heading back to the Chromatic Doors for another escape... whichever you prefer.
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Jan 22, 2016 22:18
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Well I guess we could keep on betraying people. Right?
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Jan 22, 2016 22:22
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Going with the route on the cyan path. We'll be with Clover, but I'm still in a "Let's get it out of the way" mood with regard to her. Fedule, did you wanna remind people who our partners are in those two routes?
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Jan 22, 2016 22:28
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Jan 22, 2016 22:29
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Let's try to figure out what Luna's angle is. If she even has an angle, that is.
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Jan 22, 2016 22:31
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Blinus posted:Going with the route on the cyan path. We'll be with Clover, but I'm still in a "Let's get it out of the way" mood with regard to her. To make it easier, if we go magenta/blue, it's Sigma (on 5) and Alice (on 1) versus K (who's on 6). Cyan/green means it's Sigma (on 6) and Luna (on 1) versus Clover (on 6).
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Jan 22, 2016 22:33
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How many endings/game overs have we found so far?
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Jan 22, 2016 22:38
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Four endings: Dio, Tenmyouji, Clover, Alice. I think eight Game Overs. We've hit three unlocked plot locks still. Five minutes of life, defusing bomb 2, and Two headed Lion.
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Jan 22, 2016 22:44
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Edit: ^ Or that, that sounds a lot more right.Mraagvpeine posted:How many endings/game overs have we found so far? Trying to figure it out from the flowchart pic looks like 6 deaths, I think there's two active plot locks right now, and we've seen 4 character endings?
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Jan 22, 2016 22:45
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Refresher: .png) 
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Jan 22, 2016 22:47
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Mraagvpeine posted:How many endings/game overs have we found so far? I'd LIKE to say we have found most of them at this point. But I'm not sure. All we can do is keep going and hope for the best. By that I mean hit the betray button over and over again until all we can do is hit ally and die time and time again.
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Jan 22, 2016 22:49
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Thank you Color Printer and others.
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Jan 22, 2016 22:51
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Note that Alice didn't even appear in that ending, even though she was present for the results. Really shoehorning a 'you messed up' Game Over there, game.
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Jan 22, 2016 22:56
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Hey Color Printer, I just noticed that for the Magenta path the second round teams are a copy of the first round teams.
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Jan 22, 2016 23:09
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Jan 22, 2016 23:17
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Color Printer posted:Refresher: As always, thanks so much for your hard work, Color Printer, you're a scholarman and a gentle. Just a few quick notes, the in-game flowchart actually labels the two Tenmyouji game overs as "Game Over... (Tenmyouji 1)" for the round 2 game over, and "Game Over... (Tenmyouji 2)" for the round 3 game over. Likewise, in the far left path "Game Over (Luna 1)" is how that round 2 game over is labelled in the game. It's not a big deal, but if you wanted to be 100% accurate, that's how those are written. Also you have the second round AB game from Alice's path swapped, with betray on the left and ally on the right, although I'm guessing maybe that makes it cleaner looking? Lastly, you removed the redundant non choice of "GREEN DOOR W/ CLOVER AND QUARK" from the yellow paths ally branch, but not the redundant "RED DOOR W/ ALICE AND CLOVER" and "BLUE DOOR W/ LUNA AND ALICE" from the Magenta and Cyan paths, respectively. Fedule explained a while back how you can't actually make those choices, hence why they're no longer options in the poll. I'm sorry if this seems pedantic or annoying or like I was making GBS threads on your amazing job, I just thought I'd point it out in case maybe you actually meant to have the chart totally 100% and would want it pointed out. Hope I didn't offend or anything.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Hey Color Printer, I just noticed that for the Magenta path the second round teams are a copy of the first round teams. Oops, I'll fix that. Blinus posted:Just a few quick notes, the in-game flowchart actually labels the two Tenmyouji game overs as "Game Over... (Tenmyouji 1)" for the round 2 game over, and "Game Over... (Tenmyouji 2)" for the round 3 game over. eh. I guess I'll change those too. Blinus posted:Also you have the second round AB game from Alice's path swapped, with betray on the left and ally on the right, although I'm guessing maybe that makes it cleaner looking? That's.....weird. It wasn't like that before I split the chart, so something messed up, I'll fix that Blinus posted:Lastly, you removed the redundant non choice of "GREEN DOOR W/ CLOVER AND QUARK" from the yellow paths ally branch, but not the redundant "RED DOOR W/ ALICE AND CLOVER" and "BLUE DOOR W/ LUNA AND ALICE" from the Magenta and Cyan paths, respectively. Fedule explained a while back how you can't actually make those choices, hence why they're no longer options in the poll. Oh yeah, I forgot about that, I should probably do that to cut-down on space. Also no problem, thanks to everyone who points out my gently caress-ups because lord knows I can barely keep this thing straight anymore. Color Printer fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Jan 22, 2016 23:28
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I'll admit, this is one of the few things in the game I think Clover is actually written more like her old self in 999. Got to love that smug look she gives.
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Jan 22, 2016 23:32
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ApplesandOranges posted:Note that Alice didn't even appear in that ending, even though she was present for the results. I can't remember what route this is, but I think it's the same branch where Alice goes off and kills herself after the results?
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Making a completely unfounded guess based on no reasonably leaps of logic whatsoever, it strikes me that the c/B/g will be overall less relevant towards completion, so naturally I voted for that first.
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Jan 22, 2016 23:39
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Clover manages to be the least trustworthy person across two games.
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Blinus posted:As always, thanks so much for your hard work, Color Printer, you're a scholarman and a gentle. Just a few quick notes, the in-game flowchart actually labels the two Tenmyouji game overs as "Game Over... (Tenmyouji 1)" for the round 2 game over, and "Game Over... (Tenmyouji 2)" for the round 3 game over. Likewise, in the far left path "Game Over (Luna 1)" is how that round 2 game over is labelled in the game. It's not a big deal, but if you wanted to be 100% accurate, that's how those are written. Also you have the second round AB game from Alice's path swapped, with betray on the left and ally on the right, although I'm guessing maybe that makes it cleaner looking?. I don't know if it's what you intended but that sounds like that means there's a possibility of a second Game Over depending on how we vote after the third AB game on the Luna path? Even though everyone bar Quark, Sigma and Phi are supposedly dead?
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Jan 22, 2016 23:42
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Aumanor posted:Let's try to figure out what Luna's angle is. Some people are just nice. Also some robots (she is a robot.)
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Sigma is totally a robot. The real Sigma in 2028 is remotely controlling the future Sigma robot via morphogenic whatever to gain the information needed to stop Radical-6. Or at least that's my best guess for now and even if it's correct there's some deeper unseen reason for all this. Super Jay Mann fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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Jan 22, 2016 23:47
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Human posted:Clover manages to be the least trustworthy person across two games. Including Dio?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Including Dio? Dio's untrustworthyness transcends games.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Including Dio? You can trust Dio to be an idiot that only looks out for himself and can thus be against him. Also nobody trusts Dio except Luna and have no problem Betraying him to prevent him from getting out. So even if Dio is against someone else like Phi, they're not dumb enough to Ally with him. Clover, on the other hand, is a supposedly well-meaning idiot that you have to handwalk and pacify while making the right decisions to prevent her backstabbing you. She's also just nice enough that people (Sigma) might be fooled into Allying with her when she could win. This makes Clover a far more dangerous person to trust.
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Super Jay Mann posted:Sigma is totally a robot. That's... Actually amazingly simple compared to so many of the other theories. Though on second thought, he'd have to know about Radical-6 in 2028 in order to want to reach out to the future. I suppose it could come up in college if he's there for medical stuff, but he claimed to not know what it was, and I guess that doesn't explain being gassed in the car unless it's a simple carjacking and criminals are getting really creative Sentient Data fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 22, 2016 |
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ApplesandOranges posted:I don't know if it's what you intended but that sounds like that means there's a possibility of a second Game Over depending on how we vote after the third AB game on the Luna path? Even though everyone bar Quark, Sigma and Phi are supposedly dead? Looking back to this update from back when we got a game over on the far left path by betraying Luna, you can see one of the last screenshots near the bottom of the update shows "Luna - Game Over 1". Here's the update where it happened: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3550910&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=144#post430416239 Here's the image itself: http://lpix.org/1703321 So to answer your question, I wasn't implying it, but the game seems to be.
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ApplesandOranges posted:You can trust Dio to be an idiot that only looks out for himself and can thus be against him. Also nobody trusts Dio except Luna and have no problem Betraying him to prevent him from getting out. So even if Dio is against someone else like Phi, they're not dumb enough to Ally with him. Fair enough. She even betrayed Alice in the first round, huh?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Including Dio? Well, Dio's so untrustworthy he comes back around the other side. You can always bet on him betraying you and doing the opposite of what he says, so in a way he's the most transparent dude in town. But he's also been in one game.
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Jan 22, 2016 23:57
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Blinus posted:Lastly, you removed the redundant non choice of "GREEN DOOR W/ CLOVER AND QUARK" from the yellow paths ally branch, but not the redundant "RED DOOR W/ ALICE AND CLOVER" and "BLUE DOOR W/ LUNA AND ALICE" from the Magenta and Cyan paths, respectively. Fedule explained a while back how you can't actually make those choices, hence why they're no longer options in the poll. Sorry, I don't remember, why is that? Super Jay Mann posted:Sigma is totally a robot. I would like that much better than "congrats you defused the bombs and found a cure for Radical 6... 70 years in the future and after 90% of humanity and everyone else you ever knew has died." That kind of "victory" would seem hollow.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Sorry, I don't remember, why is that? It's basically a BUT THOU MUST choice where if Sigma tries to pick that, someone shuts him down for Insert Reason.
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The obvious gameplay reason is not repeating a puzzle room on different routes, but yeah they're false choices that get a line or two of dialogue before forcing you into one of the other options/making you choose again. Glad they're not cluttering up the polls anymore.
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