MechWarrior Online: Korean Edition - Reducing grind by increasing the grind

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TheParadigm: Dec 10, 2009

I think i'm going to pick up some awesomes during the sale. Which ones are the best of the bunch?

9m doesn't seem worth it even with the up-engining. What about the others?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 08:14

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# ? May 2, 2024 03:05

Great Beer: Jul 5, 2004

They're all awful.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 08:18

Willfrey: Jul 20, 2007; Why don't the poors simply buy more money?; Fun Shoe

TheParadigm posted:

I think i'm going to pick up some awesomes during the sale. Which ones are the best of the bunch?

9m doesn't seem worth it even with the up-engining. What about the others?

What is the appeal of the awesome? the sale? if that is the only reason save your space bucks, they arent that great. Mauler comes out soon save for that

# ? Jan 23, 2016 08:19

Unhappy Meal: Jul 27, 2010; Some smiles show mirth
Others merely show teeth

DiHK posted:

That one is good, Heres my preference

Other Orions aren't as hard to fit for though.

ON1-K
PROTECTOR

Its still tight though. More of a striker than a brawler.

E: They do twist well, so if you roll your poo poo it's not so bad. Side profile is nice too and the arms take some pressure off of the sides.

I like DiHK's here, but if you absolutely must use that ballistic slot try this instead. ON1-VA UAC5

E: Ah, gently caress nevermind. I was looking at the ON1-V's quirks, don't do this.

Unhappy Meal fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jan 23, 2016

# ? Jan 23, 2016 08:19

novaSphere: Jan 25, 2003

Endbuster posted:

The HBK-4J is the perfect mech for LURMING. It is a LRM boat.

I raise you the Trebuchet 7M. It is a thing of beauty.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 08:30

Bentai: Jul 8, 2004; NERF THIS!

Best reason to pick up the Snowfall pattern:

Well, best reason if you want your Atlas to look like its got chicken pox (or zits).

# ? Jan 23, 2016 08:34

Endbuster: Jan 7, 2013; There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

novaSphere posted:

I raise you the Trebuchet 7M. It is a thing of beauty.

I give the 4J the edge because of where the missiles are mounted (the hard points in general) and the speed of the HBK. The 7M is an extremely close second. Excellent choice. The 7M can't min max as hard though, because it relies on its derpy arms and has not as optimal hardpoints as the 4J. Also, the 4G, 4P, and 4SP are actually good and worthy of getting the mastery on the HBK line. The rest of the Trebs are trash.

Really, the point of the whole LRM thing should always be:

DONT loving TAKE A STALKER OR SOME OTHER ASSAULT FOR LRMS, gently caress YOU, YOU TONNAGE WASTING SHITBIRD. Don't even take a Catapult. Its too slow and stupid.

Endbuster fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Jan 23, 2016

# ? Jan 23, 2016 08:50

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Saw a pubbie driving a 1x medium laser, TAG and 5x LRM 10 with artemis Shame Stalker earlier today. Pretty much all of his missiles were hitting gently caress all because world geometry means a lock isn't the same thing as an automatic hit if you press the fire button, but clearly that sort of thinking was hocus pocus martian voodoo.

So to echo what has already been said, don't be that pubbie.

In fact don't even use LRMs ever. You want a long range weapon that does good damage which you can fire forever? Get AC/5s and never look back.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 09:33

TheParadigm: Dec 10, 2009

Willfrey posted:

What is the appeal of the awesome? the sale? if that is the only reason save your space bucks, they arent that great. Mauler comes out soon save for that

Sale, yeah. I have c-bills to burn and 4m isn't that much - I'll easily make it back basicing it out. I spend cbills to screw around with mechs, and the awesome was one I used to play a lot. I haven't had one since beta and i'm curious how they hold up now.

They're actually pretty cheap for assault mechs. 5.9 mil after doubles isn't that bad, and its not like I won't make it back.

I wanted to give the commoners awesome a shot maybe, and srms are always great. Whats so garbage about em?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 09:49

sebmojo: Oct 23, 2010; Legit Cyberpunk

TheParadigm posted:

Sale, yeah. I have c-bills to burn and 4m isn't that much - I'll easily make it back basicing it out. I spend cbills to screw around with mechs, and the awesome was one I used to play a lot. I haven't had one since beta and i'm curious how they hold up now.

They're actually pretty cheap for assault mechs. 5.9 mil after doubles isn't that bad, and its not like I won't make it back.

I wanted to give the commoners awesome a shot maybe, and srms are always great. Whats so garbage about em?

8q is quirked out the rear end for ppcs, but i could still not make it work though that could be because i'm real bad at assaults.

Aren't they up for a rescale soon?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 10:01

Bolow: Feb 27, 2007

TheParadigm posted:

Sale, yeah. I have c-bills to burn and 4m isn't that much - I'll easily make it back basicing it out. I spend cbills to screw around with mechs, and the awesome was one I used to play a lot. I haven't had one since beta and i'm curious how they hold up now.

They're actually pretty cheap for assault mechs. 5.9 mil after doubles isn't that bad, and its not like I won't make it back.

I wanted to give the commoners awesome a shot maybe, and srms are always great. Whats so garbage about em?

Awesome hitboxes are loving trash

# ? Jan 23, 2016 10:03

Pooncha: Feb 15, 2014; Making the impossible possumable

TheParadigm posted:

Sale, yeah. I have c-bills to burn and 4m isn't that much - I'll easily make it back basicing it out. I spend cbills to screw around with mechs, and the awesome was one I used to play a lot. I haven't had one since beta and i'm curious how they hold up now.

They're actually pretty cheap for assault mechs. 5.9 mil after doubles isn't that bad, and its not like I won't make it back.

I wanted to give the commoners awesome a shot maybe, and srms are always great. Whats so garbage about em?

From my experience with mastering Awesomes (this is before they did the dynamic hardpoint thing, by the way)...

Their arm hardpoints are pretty loving low. Only some other robots can compete in knuckle-dragging. If you put weapons in your arms you are going to come to grief with sloped terrain.
They have some pretty interesting quirks to compensate for being fat and goony. They all have bonus CT/LT/RT structure though it doesn't do much when you're fat and goony, and most of their weapon-based quirks range from "decent" to "pretty good".
The -8T has a pretty 30% energy cooldown and good missile quirks, but again, low arm mounts and only two missile hardpoints. I suppose you can kit that into a bigger, fatter Hunchie 4SP with 5xMPL and 2xASRM6, or trim some armour and go 4xLPL if you don't mind hating hills (alternate left and right LPLs accordingly). It runs hot even with 18-20 heatsinks because of the amount of fire you poo poo out.
8Q and 9M are, IMO, decent laser vomit Awesomes if you want to play one due to abundance of energy hardpoints and passable energy-based quirks. 8R makes for good SRM vomit and the laser quirks are great, too; I had some good times with builds like this. I suppose you can lurmboat with it because of the LRM15 quirks but eh. No.
I have little/no experience with the 8V so can't comment. I might fix that once I have the C-Bills lying around to burn.
Don't buy the Pretty Baby.

It might be good to wait for the rescaling pass before buying the robots and see how they hold up then.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 10:42

A.o.D.: Jan 15, 2006; The Suffering of the Succotash.

Endbuster posted:

I've said it multiple times:

No arm armor, 3 ML, 2 LRM 10, one BAP in hunch,
STD255 engine
TAG in head
Get at least 1000 ammo somehow, maybe more, depends on if you can postion yourself to survive or not.
Fill with heatsinks (you only really need about two), you can take armor out of left torso/legs to meet cooling needs.
Artemis is not required, but you can run it if you want.

BOOM, you go 90kph, can reposition and effectively never get caught since your team is only a step away with all your speed. The HBK chassis allows you to almost twist 180 to maintain lock, you BAP counters light mechs that come up to your team, gets locks faster, you have TAG in your head to hill hump, you have 3ML quirked heavily for range, you have 2LRM 10 quirked heavily for smashing.

I get loving 400 damage minumum every game and take up a paltry 50 tons. I can squirt out missles faster than any other "boat" in the game, even more so with the module and 2x skills w/ fast fire. Light mechs will not gently caress with you as you twist 140 degrees to look back at them firing 3ML with cooldown quirks while running towards your team if you somehow get "caught."

The HBK-4J is the perfect mech for LURMING. It is a LRM boat.

Try to prove me wrong, I'll show you the avg damage per game stats and mine will be better than whatever you run, gauren-loving-teeeeeeeed.

source your quotes.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 14:04

Zernach: Oct 23, 2012

My most played mech is this AWS-8Q. The arm MPLs are good for shooing away clueless lights so you can vaporise them with your PPCs once they are out of the 90m min distance. You can sort of brawl with the PPCs too thanks to the -25% heat from quirks, just be mindful to keep your distance. But preferably you are just behind the true brawlers absorbing stray fire, helping them kill stuff or keeping the enemy snipers heads down with relentless PPC fire.

The -9M I don't like, because its quirked for ERPPCs which are garbage. The quirked PPCs on the -8Q are almost equal in dmg/heat to LPLs so they get a pass in my book. The ERPPCs on the other hand are way too hot and the extra range is not worth it.

I bought the -8T after looking at its quirks and put 4xLPL on the arms and i'm already regreting it. They are just so low and wide they make everything harder than it should.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 14:10

Drone_Fragger: May 9, 2007

They need to make the awesome like 15% smaller in scale horizontally and then they'd be fine :O

# ? Jan 23, 2016 14:50

Love Stole the Day: Nov 4, 2012; Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you

So I skimmed through the past 15 pages and made a Google Spreadsheet of recommended "good" robot builds that goons have made itt without getting flamed over it. Then I added my main SCat builds because why not.

http://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PusOUjb4BAAcrM9hHZwGHYh7HVrQD9qBJzPyIrJbIHI/edit?usp=sharing

If this goes anywhere (and if it's maintained), future goons can just refer to the spreadsheet and Ctrl+F their robot for recommendations. It also has a link to the original post for context sake.

If you want to help maintain it, send me a PM or something with your fake porno gmail account or whatever and I'll add it to the whitelist.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 15:00

Hixson: Mar 27, 2009

Can somebody PM me the mumble info? I want to get yelled at

# ? Jan 23, 2016 15:08

Beet Wagon: Oct 19, 2015

Hixson posted:

Can somebody PM me the mumble info? I want to get yelled at

I could use it too, whoever reads this.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 15:16

Endbuster: Jan 7, 2013; There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

A.o.D. posted:

source your quotes.

What quotes? I didn't quote poo poo.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 16:39

Tindahbawx: Oct 14, 2011

What way should I be building my Ghost Dad these days?

I literally haven't touched the thing for a couple of years, the build it has is the one from the old WoL repository with the Gauss, 2xSRM(4?), 2x ML and the ECM. Is that still the way to do it?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 16:43

Rocketpriest: Nov 28, 2006; Alias: Non-Demoninational Minister Capable of Sub-Atmospheric Flight

Tindahbawx posted:

What way should I be building my Ghost Dad these days?

I literally haven't touched the thing for a couple of years, the build it has is the one from the old WoL repository with the Gauss, 2xSRM(4?), 2x ML and the ECM. Is that still the way to do it?

That is way outdated; an AC20 and 3 SRM6's with Artemis, medium lasers and standard engine to taste (a 325 at minimum). Some people take medium lasers, some don't.

fake edit: I feel like I shouldn't have to say 'keep the ECM too', but I'm gonna say it anyway

real edit: Having gotten the opportunity to play it on a map that isn't loving Viridian Bog, the 6xLRM5 Mad Dog is A-OK by me. I should probably have gotten a hunchback 4J for my lurm shenanigans, but I just don't want a fourth hunchback. Or do I?

Question: Is it better to run an active probe or tag on a streakcrow? I feel like tag in the head is the better option for chasing ECM lights, but I don't have the money to swap my stormcrow over yet, so I figure I might as well just ask.

Rocketpriest fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jan 23, 2016

# ? Jan 23, 2016 16:49

Tindahbawx: Oct 14, 2011

Rocketpriest posted:

That is way outdated; an AC20 and 3 SRM6's with Artemis, medium lasers and standard engine to taste (a 325 at minimum). Some people take medium lasers, some don't.

I'll give that a shot, thanks.

Happened to be looking at the store also, noticed the camos.... do you have to buy these per mech? As in, you cant just buy one and have it for all your mechs?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:08

ZenVulgarity: Oct 9, 2012; I made the hat by transforming my zen

If some idiot gave me 30 to 55 bucks to spend as a gift, what are some good buys

I already have premium time as a gift

I was thinking the dire wolf pack for a cbill earning dire wolf, the mauler pack, the warhammer pack, the marauder pack, and maybe some crabs but they're cheap to get

ZenVulgarity fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Jan 23, 2016

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:14

Drythe: Aug 26, 2012

Correct

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:14

armchairyoda: Sep 17, 2008; Melman

ZenVulgarity posted:

If some idiot gave me 30 to 55 bucks to spend as a gift, what are some good buys

I already have premium time as a gift

Give it back to BMR before Anita gets jealous of your new bromance.

Unless it's on sale, there are no good buys save one... Jade Falcon warhorn. And that is never on sale and stupid overpriced too.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:22

Coolwhoami: Sep 13, 2007

ZenVulgarity posted:

If some idiot gave me 30 to 55 bucks to spend as a gift, what are some good buys

I already have premium time as a gift

I was thinking the dire wolf pack for a cbill earning dire wolf, the mauler pack, the warhammer pack, the marauder pack, and maybe some crabs but they're cheap to get

The marauder pack is good, the warhammer is not proving itself well currently but that's in part because there's hordes of them. The origins pack (hunchback) wouldn't be a bad option either.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 17:32

Ren and Stimpire: Oct 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

Ran with a group that 12-man rushed the base on polar highlands. Won without a shot being fired.

Almost have my hellbringers elited. Does anyone have any favorite builds to share for them?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 18:07

A Curvy Goonette: Jul 3, 2007; "Anyone who enjoys MWO is a shitty player. You have to hate it in order to be pro like me."

I'm actually just very good at curb stomping randoms on a team.

Willfrey posted:

What is the appeal of the awesome? the sale? if that is the only reason save your space bucks, they arent that great. Mauler comes out soon save for that

they are the worst assault in the game

# ? Jan 23, 2016 18:19

Safety Factor: Oct 31, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Hixson posted:

Can somebody PM me the mumble info? I want to get yelled at

It's a bit more complicated than that because of goon OPSEC or some dumbass poo poo like that.

Anita Dickinme posted:

Joining the Goonrathi Forums (where the goon MWO offsite forums live):
The Star Citizen goons were kind enough to give us a home, so you need a SC Forums account... (It's free!)

1) Go make a Star Citizen account.
2) Follow the steps over at FLJK under 'enlist'. (Goonrathi is the SC Goon group.)
3) For your clearance code enter "Sexy BULBASAUR 69" and in the comments write "MWO Refugee"

Once that is done, you should be able to access the Goonrathi/WoL/GIRL forums, the jabber, the wiki, and the mumble. (If you're old or technologically impaired, click here after making an account.)

Make sure you download mumble if you're weird and haven't already for some reason.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 18:47

Love Stole the Day: Nov 4, 2012; Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you

This is the closest that PGI has ever brought me to wanting to give them money, even if it's Steambucks. The Mardi Gras Shadow Cat is my dream.

I felt bad that I saved up $12 in steambucks to buy Squad at a good discount. It's a decent game but the community is poo poo and there aren't enough active goons over there.

For a moment, I was beginning to wonder if I made the right choice to take a video game over this paint job... but then I snapped back to reality, pulled my head out of my rear end, and realized that I was about to pay $12usd for a loving video game cosmetic. Whew! You almost got me there, :pgi:

. Better luck next time.

edit-- Thronde, Zenobia, and I could turn the Word of Lowtax into the Krewe of Lowtax.

Love Stole the Day fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jan 23, 2016

# ? Jan 23, 2016 18:49

Beraiye: Oct 27, 2014

armchairyoda posted:

Give it back to BMR before Anita gets jealous of your new bromance.

Unless it's on sale, there are no good buys save one... Jade Falcon warhorn. And that is never on sale and stupid overpriced too.

huh wut?

# ? Jan 23, 2016 18:49

Beraiye: Oct 27, 2014

Safety Factor posted:

It's a bit more complicated than that because of goon OPSEC or some dumbass poo poo like that.

I don't think anyone actually cares anymore. The mumble info is in the message of the day for both units. Just decide if you want to be Clan or IS and ask for an invite.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 18:52

Alchenar: Apr 9, 2008

Beraiye posted:

I don't think anyone actually cares anymore. The mumble info is in the message of the day for both units. Just decide if you want to be Clan or IS and ask for an invite.

Why we don't just use CTS mumble...

# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:09

Safety Factor: Oct 31, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Alchenar posted:

Why we don't just use CTS mumble...

It's a legacy from when we thought this game might have worthwhile/meaningful community warfare. :laffo:

# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:14

Drythe: Aug 26, 2012

Someone who isn't on a phone just loving post it. Or wait until I get home in 11 hours and I will

Opsec mumble is loving retarded for this game and anyone who thinks it matters is a bigger sperg than any of the fat retards on the official forums.

# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:26

Karasu Tengu: Feb 16, 2011; Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Who cares, mumble.goonrathi.com, password mellon

# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:29

ZenVulgarity: Oct 9, 2012; I made the hat by transforming my zen

Drythe posted:

Someone who isn't on a phone just loving post it. Or wait until I get home in 11 hours and I will

Opsec mumble is loving retarded for this game and anyone who thinks it matters is a bigger sperg than any of the fat retards on the official forums.

No u

# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:41