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Badger of Basra posted:there was a story the other day in some media outlet that i forgot about how every single junior doctor that participated in this study where they drew cartoons of their experiences drew their supervisors as horrible monsters and themselves as mentally broken victims theres a practice in medicine called pimping, i dont recall the etymology, but basically senior doctors will harass residents and ask them impossible questions in front of patients to make them look stupid and any other way to undermine them and damage their self confidence. to enforce hierarchy i guess but it sounds more twisted than the military's hierarchical philosophy
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Jagchosis posted:theres a practice in medicine called pimping, i dont recall the etymology, but basically senior doctors will harass residents and ask them impossible questions in front of patients to make them look stupid and any other way to undermine them and damage their self confidence. to enforce hierarchy i guess but it sounds more twisted than the military's hierarchical philosophy so basically your doctors go through rigorous hazing procedures to break them that's good to hear
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holy poo poo the Okinawa thread somehow got even worse than it was earlier its kinda amazing that the op is still trying to get it back on track while arguing with some of the worst posters in d&d
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Jan 23, 2016 15:59
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The Warszawa posted:millennials!!!!! This but unironically. Seriously, even the poorest minority millenials in 'murica still lives like a king (one of the normal kind, not the British kind) compared to anybody everywhere else on the planet. Get some perspective Ameribouj. 
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Jan 23, 2016 15:59
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Randler posted:This but unironically. hmmmmm i think this might be incorrect mr nazi man
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Also, economically you're not minimum wage, if you work minimum wage and live with your parents, because not having rental expenses is functionally the same as additional income and should be treated (and taxed!) as such.
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Jan 23, 2016 16:00
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Randler posted:This but unironically. after you explained how german welfare works i can confidently say eat poo poo randler
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Randler posted:Also, economically you're not minimum wage, if you work minimum wage and live with your parents, because not having rental expenses is functionally the same as additional income and should be treated (and taxed!) as such. there are no deductions for rent (tho there are for mortgage payments, which if you are living with your parents you are not making under your taxpayer id) so there is no difference in taxation. unless you take the aforementioned mortage deduction being a subsidization of home ownership and realize that that is its own form of penalty for living with your parents.
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Jan 23, 2016 16:03
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Randler posted:Also, economically you're not minimum wage, if you work minimum wage and live with your parents, because not having rental expenses is functionally the same as additional income and should be treated (and taxed!) as such. this is just the sorta bold thinking we need!!!!!! lets tax other sorts of non-income too like vegetarians for not having to pay for more expensive meats and virgins for not having to pay for condoms
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Jan 23, 2016 16:04
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if youre proposing adjusting tax brackets based on whether someone pays rent well what is the point because youre really just loving low income people for pennies
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Jan 23, 2016 16:04
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LorrdErnie posted:lets tax other sorts of non-income too like vegetarians for not having to pay for more expensive meats and virgins for not having to pay for condoms you would be surprised at some of the poo poo we're supposed to consider income in the US tax code
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Jan 23, 2016 16:05
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Jagchosis posted:loving low income people for pennies id think you got it in one
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Jan 23, 2016 16:06
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it's amazing, really
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Jan 23, 2016 16:07
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Randler posted:This but unironically. They get sick like kings too, 18th century kings
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Jan 23, 2016 16:11
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Randler posted:This but unironically. I had no idea you were so into Maoism-Third-Worldism
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Jan 23, 2016 16:13
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https://twitter.com/dadjokehansolo/status/690389684174852097
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Two people have 100,000 CU to invest in assets. Person A purchases a house for 100,000 CU. If he rented that house, he would have to pay 5,000 CU/year. Economically, his asset house provides him with a good/service worth 5,000 CU/year minus maintenance expenses (let's assume linear depriciation over 50 years, so 2,000 CU/year in expenses). Economically person A receives an income from his investment of 3,000 CU/year. Person B purchases bonds that have a fixed rate of return, earning him 5,000 CU/year in interest. Assuming for ease of example, that he does not have to pay any fees related to his depot, economically B receives an income of 5,000 CU/year. For taxation purposes, the use of living in his own house is not considered taxable income for A, while the interest of B are taxable income. So despite the difference in economic value derived from their respective investments is only 2,000 CU/year the difference in taxable income is 5,000 CU/year. Do you really not get how that is an issue with equality in taxation that soley benefits certain kinds of investments? I.e. real estate, which nowadays isn't a realistically affordable option for most people even in Richmerica? [From an economic point of view a millenial living at home is functionally identical to him making an investment, so the same consequences re: actual economical income apply.] LorrdErnie posted:this is just the sorta bold thinking we need!!!!!! Don't worry, I am not aware of any economist considering dumpster diving activities to generate relevant income.
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i dont know why youre being so mean when i started agreeing with you 
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Jan 23, 2016 16:19
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Randler posted:Two people have 100,000 CU to invest in assets. no, investments need to have actual additional income to be taxed. if they take the money saved on rent and but tech stocks then by all means tax the capital gains otherwise money sitting there and not accumulating value is not income.
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drat I'm looking good.
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Jan 23, 2016 16:25
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bloomberg is gonna run as an independent holy loly
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I like the jump from living with your parents to purchasing bonds Like one necessarily follows the other
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The Warszawa posted:bloomberg is gonna run as an independent holy loly i see hes still in the floating the idea through the media stage which im assuming the negative reaction will kill this idea
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The Warszawa posted:bloomberg is gonna run as an independent holy loly at least it's bigger than jim webb
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Jan 23, 2016 16:33
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Jagchosis posted:no, investments need to have actual additional income to be taxed. if they take the money saved on rent and but tech stocks then by all means tax the capital gains otherwise money sitting there and not accumulating value is not income. That is an overly narrow definition of investment that benefits a subset of asset owners and is divorced from economic reality, imo.
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Jan 23, 2016 16:33
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:at least it's bigger than jim webb and bragged about it during the Democratic debate
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Randler posted:That is an overly narrow definition of investment that benefits a subset of asset owners and is divorced from economic reality, imo.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Jim Webb killed a man before going back to whine about how he didn't get enough time to speak
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hey warsz are you still around and do you want to know more about the rise of image and artists in 90s comics
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Jim Webb killed a man Even better. He bragged about killing Vietnamese. With his Vietnamese wife smiling in the crowd. That whole thing was weird as gently caress.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:before going back to whine about how he didn't get enough time to speak There was a VC that wouldn't let me talk and we'll he's not around anymore 
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Literally The Worst posted:hey warsz are you still around and do you want to know more about the rise of image and artists in 90s comics Yo do you want a disc image of that weird spawn cd I got. I can upload it when I get home
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Jagchosis posted:if unspent money isnt invested in some way it declines in value because of inflation so idk what your problem is Mainly your inability or unwillingness to understand that money is interchangeable with goods and that it therefore should not make a difference whether an asset has its return in either form.
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fishmech posted:Yo do you want a disc image of that weird spawn cd I got. I can upload it when I get home kinda yeah, i wanna ogle at a strange relic and i know a few people who might also be interested
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Literally The Worst posted:hey warsz are you still around and do you want to know more about the rise of image and artists in 90s comics yes
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Randler posted:Mainly your inability or unwillingness to understand that money is interchangeable with goods and that it therefore should not make a difference whether an asset has its return in either form. it sounds like youre advocating for a wealth tax which i am completely fine with but in murka we operate on an income tax basis and this doesnt pass muster sorry
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That's why class distinctions just based in income is not complete
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Jagchosis posted:it sounds like youre advocating for a wealth tax which i am completely fine with but in murka we operate on an income tax basis and this doesnt pass muster sorry I'm starting to suspect you're trolling be by feigning eurpolish ignorance, goonsire.
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I don't think Jackie Onassis earned anything until she was an editor but you would call her lower class. I think she was maybe a news reporter for awhile.
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