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Gaunab posted:Can I nominate Talking Dead? I don't understand the appeal of having the creators discuss the previously aired episode. Sometimes it's cool to have a bunch of creative people talk about the process of conceiving and creating something. Sometimes it just turns into a giant circle-jerk though. The Breaking Bad DVD commentaries are really bad about this and I can only imagine that Talking Bad and the other AMC "let's talk about a show" show are pretty much the same.
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sweetmercifulcrap posted:I'm actually surprised we haven't seen more of it yet. Discussing and dissecting episodes online as soon as they air is now bigger than ever and I can see networks attempting to use shows like that to sway those discussions in their favor. Chris Hardwick only has so many hours in a day.
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The American Dream posted:The worst show I've ever seen is Saved by the Bell:The New Class. It made the original look like The Wire. Somehow it lasted several years longer because they changed the cast members every couple years. Even being a pre teen I felt insulted at how terrible the writing was and how unfunny every joke was. It's so bad and irrelevant that the best I can do is find a few short clips on youtube. For a minute I thought you meant 'the College Years' when you were talking about the New Class until I read the entirety of your post. I can't believe they made another one. The one thing the College Years definitively proved was that the success of the original Saved by the Bell is partially due to people waking up late on Saturdays and finding anything amusing. Especially that laugh track. SirPhoebos posted:According to Jim. Best line ever. I feel so bad for Courtney Thorne-Smith. Hard to believe that Melrose Place was the most respectable thing she's ever done. Say Nothing posted:Remember when Married With Children wrote a young kid into the family. The best part about Seven's sudden departure is that the show kinda made it a character moment for Peg. She was the one fawning all over Seven and was the one who shrugged when she saw his picture on the side of the milk carton. Funny and revealing, all at the same time. I think Seven was mentioned in passing during an episode where Kelly loses parts of her memory when trivia is introduced, but I haven't seen the show in eons so it may be my failing memory at this point. gently caress, I know too much about Married With Children. Wow. Mustached5thGrader posted:Cosby Show, The Jeffersons, A Different World, Bernie Mac, In Living Color, Martin, and My Wife and Kids A Different World was a zombie of a show, wasn't it? The only reason it remained on the air is because NBC could put anything between their 8pm and 9pm hours on Thursday and it would at least get ratings from people leaving the TV on. AKA Pseudonym posted:Sometimes it's cool to have a bunch of creative people talk about the process of conceiving and creating something. Sometimes it just turns into a giant circle-jerk though. The Breaking Bad DVD commentaries are really bad about this and I can only imagine that Talking Bad and the other AMC "let's talk about a show" show are pretty much the same. Ash vs. the Evil Dead does the same thing after every one of their episodes. But it's only like five minutes long, which I think would be the sweet spot for pushing people to buy the season sets. Then again, Talking Dead also provides about six to eight hours of free material for those sets? Either way, Season Sets have really changed the way we watch TV. It's weird to see how we went from shows that were supported on big TV nights to shows that prepare themselves for Season Sets complete with extras. The last twenty years have been a huge change in how we watch TV. It's astounding.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Ash vs. the Evil Dead does the same thing after every one of their episodes. But it's only like five minutes long, which I think would be the sweet spot for pushing people to buy the season sets. Then again, Talking Dead also provides about six to eight hours of free material for those sets? Either way, Season Sets have really changed the way we watch TV. It's weird to see how we went from shows that were supported on big TV nights to shows that prepare themselves for Season Sets complete with extras. The last twenty years have been a huge change in how we watch TV. It's astounding. Those Talking ______ shows also encourage people to watch the program live instead of DVRing it, which is something networks still care about.
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Jan 23, 2016 19:06
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Breaking bad, early simpsons, firefly and all star treks all loving suck. *sits back on chair, adjusts nonexistent glasses, swirls wine with a cheeky smirk*
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Jan 23, 2016 19:31
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:For a minute I thought you meant 'the College Years' when you were talking about the New Class until I read the entirety of your post. I can't believe they made another one. The one thing the College Years definitively proved was that the success of the original Saved by the Bell is partially due to people waking up late on Saturdays and finding anything amusing. Especially that laugh track. Didn't they ditch Screech for the college stuff?
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Jan 23, 2016 23:31
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And not a single one of you fucks mentioned Glee. A show that had an episode involving a school shooting right after an actual school shooting.
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Ronnie posted:And not a single one of you fucks mentioned Glee. A show that had an episode involving a school shooting right after an actual school shooting. Glee is your standard Ryan Murphy shows where it starts out good, but then gets really really horrible really really fast. People keep watching waiting for it to get better but it just never happens.
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Jan 24, 2016 02:10
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2016 is the year when the racist ethnic comedy will make a comeback!
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Lankiveil posted:2016 is the year when the racist ethnic comedy will make a comeback! Oh, this is real  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZr7gMG13wQ
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Jan 24, 2016 04:14
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Lankiveil posted:2016 is the year when the racist ethnic comedy will make a comeback! Britain also makes a (scripted, hilariously fake) reality show about the inscrutable ways of the thieving Gypsy people, they're so hilariously racist
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Jan 24, 2016 04:21
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Is it ok racism once it gets to the point of like modern mocking of the Irish and Scottish or whatever? Those are two groups that I'm sure had a rough rear end time in America, but now it's kinda like calling your friend a fuckhead. Like, people are different and sometimes that's funny. I do enjoy making Midwestern racists uncomfortable when they start talking about niggers or "black people" (you have to say it in the right half whispered voice) by bringing up how worthless and lazy those loving Pollacks are. A lot of folks around here have Polish blood from way back or at least know a family or whatever. They're all thoroughly just "white American mutts" at this point, but boy do they get defensive.
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Jan 24, 2016 04:36
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bossy lady posted:Oh, this is real holy poo poo
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Jan 24, 2016 05:55
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Bruce Kison posted:holy poo poo The series creators are a couple of Lebanese dudes who got famous on the coattails of what originally was an awesome show called Pizza which made fun of "wog" stereotypes in Australia. Funnily enough "Pizza" started sucking when those two became main characters and it turned into something like this show. So bleh.
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Anytime I go to my parent's house, my mom has it on A&E which has become the Criminal Minds "marathon" channel (it's not really a marathon, just loving Criminal Minds 24/7). Oooh, cribbed from Time-Life books serial killers and color-by-numbers clichéd FBI procedurals every week. Fun  The show is so terribly bland and uninteresting that Inigo Montoya left after season two and Fat Tony came in. It's still boring as all hell.
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Jan 25, 2016 01:51
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Criminal Minds exists entirely because your average American is a terrible human being and wants to revel in rape and murder without having to have any empathy for criminals or moral conflict over the justice system, so it gives tham an endless parade of ghoulish villains who are evil enough to give them a shiver and wind up in jail at the end of every episode because we live in a Just World. The one upside is having C- and D-list actors slumming it gloriously. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJQZst2mEQw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZMw2lv5Ue0
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You Are A Elf posted:Anytime I go to my parent's house, my mom has it on A&E which has become the Criminal Minds "marathon" channel (it's not really a marathon, just loving Criminal Minds 24/7). Mandy Matinkin didn't leave because the show was boring, he left because the show was soul-crushingly bleak and cruel and he regrets being involved with it: http://www.tvguide.com/news/mandy-patinkin-regrets-criminal-minds-1053095/
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Sleeveless posted:Criminal Minds exists entirely because your average American is a terrible human being and wants to revel in rape and murder without having to have any empathy for criminals or moral conflict over the justice system, so it gives tham an endless parade of ghoulish villains who are evil enough to give them a shiver and wind up in jail at the end of every episode because we live in a Just World. Somehow this show manages to be torture porn without actually being that graphic.
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Filthy Hans posted:Mandy Matinkin didn't leave because the show was boring, he left because the show was soul-crushingly bleak and cruel and he regrets being involved with it: quote:"The biggest public mistake I ever made was that I chose to do Criminal Minds in the first place," Patinkin said. "I thought it was something very different. I never thought they were going to kill and rape all these women every night, every day, week after week, year after year. It was very destructive to my soul and my personality" . . . 
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Some of the newer seasons of South Park were utter loving garbage. It became a set up with lovely jokes so that kyle or stan or whatever the gently caress would lecture you on how the creators are right about something. And when they weren't they were the most forgettable parodies in the world. I remember some episode or another were there is a giant real life guinea pig loving up everything (with a pirate hat because LOL RANDOM) which was a parody of found footage movies or something.
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Furia posted:Some of the newer seasons of South Park were utter loving garbage. It became a set up with lovely jokes so that kyle or stan or whatever the gently caress would lecture you on how the creators are right about something. That's always been the formula for the show.
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Obligatory Handle posted:That's always been the formula for the show. I haven't watched it in a long time, so maybe I'm just remembering wrong. Or maybe it's rose tinted glasses, but even it it was always like that I sincerely doubt it was ever as egregious as it is now.
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You're both right. The creators being smug and self-righteous about whatever their opinion is has always been the bedrock of the show, but in recent seasons it's turned lovely as they've mutated from being anti-establishment members of their generation to being the comedy establishment to upcoming generations. As such there's a lot more "punching down" and general old person "what's with kids these days?" crap that still results in memes for neckbeards to parrot but finally shows that the show's edge has dulled.
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Ronnie posted:And not a single one of you fucks mentioned Glee. A show that had an episode involving a school shooting right after an actual school shooting. i didn't mention glee because i have never seen glee
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YeahTubaMike posted:i didn't mention glee because i have never seen glee I saw it like three times, the pilot wasn't so bad, everything else was pretty bad.
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Jan 25, 2016 18:10
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i was in marching band and drama club in high school & college, and i did not feel the need to relive those years, especially since i graduated college literally less than a week before the show premiered
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Jan 25, 2016 18:20
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Mythbusters. The hosts are boring, and everyone just watches the show because the mannish chick made a cast of her rear end in one episode so they just jerk off furiously to her now.
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The last season of South Park, while still preachy, was actually awesome and one of their best ever. In the last few seasons the show has made an effort to move away from the repeat one joke ad nauseam. There was a period for several years though where most of the episodes were lazy and annoying.
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Iron Crowned posted:I saw it like three times, the pilot wasn't so bad, everything else was pretty bad. I remember in the pilot the main protagonist, a teacher, threatens a sports kid with a false accusation of drug possession so he'll sing and dance???????????? ??????????????????????
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Pick posted:I remember in the pilot the main protagonist, a teacher, threatens a sports kid with a false accusation of drug possession so he'll sing and dance???????????? It came on at a time when I was unemployed and had an abusive SO, so there's a really good chance I was also drunk and really bored at the time.
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Yes, Dear is one of the many bad shows I watched and kinda liked at the time. The scene where the wimpy guy keeps trying to fight a reluctant Christopher Titus is still funny to me tho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maeC8drPwlU
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They keep airing ads for Moonbeam City here on the Comedy Channel, here being a European hellhole. It looks just loving awful, like a lovely ripoff of Archer and GTA Vice City. I haven't seen it yet, but the Comedy Channel here has a way of making even funny shows look terrible in the ads for them. Is it terrible? Also, Brickleberry is very bad. I've never seen Gregory Allen, so I don't know that I can truly weigh in, but for my money Brickleberry is the worst cartoon. It's offensively stupid, even more than The Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother, cause you know those sitcoms are just by the numbers cash-ins but them Brickleberry dudes probably think they are real funny.
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No controversy in saying all reality TV was total crap, and the novelty wore off after the first year of it becoming a popular genre. Around that same time (2000 - 2007), however, the 'extreme' game show became a thing. I remember The Chamber as being the worst offender: a show where the premise was simulated torture as entertainment, all while it was known that our country was engaging in literal torture abroad. It lasted one season, and even the host seemed uncomfortable with the premise. While they all borrowed elements from Japanese physical challenge shows, the translation to an American format added something I can only describe as 'ugly' or 'grotesque.' I would never accuse a reality show of being subtle, but there was a really disturbing subtext to the American versions as well. Fear Factor wasn't so much an example of the worst show on TV, but of the awful attitudes and style of that time - specifically the disgusting challenges. Slapstick and 'stupid human tricks' are a big part of Western comedy and game shows; and so is a certain element of sexuality as a way of attracting an audience or attention. Mixing that with 'gross' elements involving dead animals (or parts of them), a set design borrowed from 'Saw,' while Joe Rogan cheers you on is a striking combination of sex, death, and humiliation for broadcast television. I used to joke with a friend when 'Fear Factor' became popular about how long it would take the show to devolve into challenges involving felonies and bestiality for ratings. The banned 'Hee Haw! Hee Haw!' episode was in the 7th season. Also, I watched Allen Gregory because of this thread, and it's like some Bizarro-World, horrible version of Kid Notorious. chefvinny fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jan 25, 2016 |
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kith_groupie posted:They keep airing ads for Moonbeam City here on the Comedy Channel, here being a European hellhole. It looks just loving awful, like a lovely ripoff of Archer and GTA Vice City. I haven't seen it yet, but the Comedy Channel here has a way of making even funny shows look terrible in the ads for them. Is it terrible? It's not the worst but it's embarrassingly rote considering the talent involved. There's a minor novelty in seeing that mid-80s wall art aesthetic in motion and how they can build a whole world around it, but that novelty wears thin pretty quick. This must have been what it was like to watch hippie/psychedelic media about the 60s in the 90s.
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mind the walrus posted:It's not the worst but it's embarrassingly rote considering the talent involved. There's a minor novelty in seeing that mid-80s wall art aesthetic in motion and how they can build a whole world around it, but that novelty wears thin pretty quick. This must have been what it was like to watch hippie/psychedelic media about the 60s in the 90s. Is it better or worse than Ugly Americans? Cause that was a show that was totally carried by it's aesthetic. I'll watch it if it's on but I won't go looking for it either.
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It's about one level lower than Ugly Americans. It'll find its teenage fans and probably hang on for at least 3 seasons given the cachet of its talent, and there's potential for it to get better, but so far it's exactly what it looks like-- a coked up attempt to replicate Archer using an 80s aesthetic.
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Ronnie posted:And not a single one of you fucks mentioned Glee. A show that had an episode involving a school shooting right after an actual school shooting. The school shooting episode was just embarassing. It wasn't even a student on a rampage, it was just a misfire and a bunch of students stuck in lock down. They didn't even break into a rendition of Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down). So disappointed. One Tree Hill had a school shooting episode where the fat goon character goes crazy. It was quite well done. But this is the show where a dog eats a donor heart, so not really quality TV in general.
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kith_groupie posted:Is it better or worse than Ugly Americans? Cause that was a show that was totally carried by it's aesthetic. I'll watch it if it's on but I won't go looking for it either. That show should have been a lot better. The art was awesome and season one was good, but by season two it became so bad I couldn't even watch
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Wall Balls posted:howsabout future weapons, hour long commercials for the military industrial complex presented by an unhinged ex seal yeah that show's pretty loving stupid, but seeing military hardware makes my dick hard enough to dent inch-thick steel plate lotta pro-military propaganda inserted in it
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