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HMS Boromir posted:I'm apparently second behind Sam "DOS Apocalypse" Bair in number of games suggested for Abject Suffering. I don't know if I should be proud or ashamed. Why am I doing this to you? What's Abject Suffering?
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Abject Suffering is dead, long live the R-Zone Zone. Also if anyone buys them the Virtual Boy, I'm just laying it out there that there is a procedural generated first-person Shadow Over Innsmouth game on the VB that was only released in Japan.
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bobservo posted:This week's episode of Retronauts is all about a game that's old even if you think it's not: Half-Life 2: There needs to be a mini-sode about Jurassic Park Trespasser and how it was basically the blueprint for Half-Life 2 and every physics based shooter in 1997.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Abject Suffering is dead, long live the R-Zone Zone.
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hey podcast thread did you know you can embed tweets on the forums now https://twitter.com/GaryBuh/status/687546263869374465 https://twitter.com/GaryBuh/status/687546943396954112
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I just got mystery gifts from the Duckfeed boys and a friend who went to Comiket. I'm not sure which one made my morning more. (for the record I think my gushing praise over Teenage Dirtbags belies my "nah, cover whatever" nature)
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Concerning the latest WOFF episode, I really want to hear a Three Dog hosted episode of Radio Lab now.
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Old Swerdlow posted:Concerning the latest WOFF episode, I really want to hear a Three Dog hosted episode of Radio Lab now. If we hadn't done a Radio Lab parody so recently, that was my first idea. I find Radio Lab endlessly make-fun-able.
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Woffle posted:If we hadn't done a Radio Lab parody so recently, that was my first idea. I find Radio Lab endlessly make-fun-able. One of their most recent episodes about "That Dragon, Cancer" is so excruciatingly bad with the whole out of touch notion that "video games can be more than boops and beeps!?"
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Phone posted:Is Radiolab the walking simulator of public radio shows? I'd say that's This American Life, but it's probably a close tossup in terms of viciously stupid narratives and irritating production quirks.
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The R-Zone Zone is dead. Long live Abject Suffering
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Re: Abject Suffering (rip rzone) I'm not sure when you guys recorded, but you guys missed out on the recent cruise ship disaster where someone was horrifically maimed by an elevator. I read a news article the other week, and it was some serious horror film poo poo. Also, great news! the buzzing I was asking about on Twitter wasn't present at all, A+, would R Zone again
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SporkOfTruth posted:I'd say that's This American Life, but it's probably a close tossup in terms of viciously stupid narratives and irritating production quirks. be nice.
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Catching up on Abject Suffering from the last few weeks. Kole, my dad would be your not throwing-up hero. He's at 32 years.
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I think Kole was asking which of the games I love he's taken a dump on in the last WoFF I was a big fan of Metroids Prime and Fusion, and goddamn love Banjo Kazooie. I agree with with your Metroid views after much soul searching, but BK is still amazing gently caress you. (Love the show  )
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Bug Squash posted:I think Kole was asking which of the games I love he's taken a dump on in the last WoFF There's more Banjo salt in the upcoming episodes too. Condolences.
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I know Bob and Jeremy read this thread. The new Retronauts tshirt is awesome, I am wearing it right now. A+ would wear again.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:I know Bob and Jeremy read this thread. The new Retronauts tshirt is awesome, I am wearing it right now. A+ would wear again. I have a box of about 80 Retronauts shirts in my bedroom so I'm going to try and wear them all at once.
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According to the Before I Play page, your best bet is to put the smallest shirts on first
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bobservo posted:I have a box of about 80 Retronauts shirts in my bedroom so I'm going to try and wear them all at once. I have zero Retronauts merchandise from the past three years because SOMEONE never shares.
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Bug Squash posted:I think Kole was asking which of the games I love he's taken a dump on in the last WoFF Somewhere out there is a massive Tomba and Sword of Mana fan who has a target board with Gary and Kole's faces on it.
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Pro-tier Thumbs episode this week, I hope to God that my parents didn't keep a journal of all the bizarre things I said/did as a child. They've told me most of the highlights anyway. Also per Thumbs' brief discussion of Myst, Myst is probably my personal example of "I understand the criticism people lay on this game but I don't care" because I still love that game, even if it comes across as really primitive after 20+ years. And I'm not even a big adventure game guy, that game just really resonated with me, probably because after starting my video game days on the Game Boy and SNES it was one of my first PC games, and definitely the first where I thought "there's no way I could play this any other way". VV Thumbs touched on it for a bit in their ep, I wasn't referring to WOFF. I have no idea what their stance is. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jan 23, 2016 |
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C-Euro posted:Pro-tier Thumbs episode this week, I hope to God that my parents didn't keep a journal of all the bizarre things I said/did as a child. They've told me most of the highlights anyway. Wait I thought WOFF really liked Myst? I might be forgetting, that was one of the first episodes I listened to.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Wait I thought WOFF really liked Myst? I might be forgetting, that was one of the first episodes I listened to. We do. Was it something referenced in Idle Thumbs? I think the 2nd paragraph is connected to the first, maybe.
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Woffle posted:We do. Was it something referenced in Idle Thumbs? I think the 2nd paragraph is connected to the first, maybe. I talked about how I didnt like Myst much when it came out (or told myself I didnt like it?) because it was colliding with my personal preconceptions of & taste in adventure games at the time. I still dont fully love Myst but I respect it a lot. (Also I really like Riven?). And I'm really stoked for The Witness.
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ja2ke posted:I talked about how I didnt like Myst much when it came out (or told myself I didnt like it?) because it was colliding with my personal preconceptions of & taste in adventure games at the time. I still dont fully love Myst but I respect it a lot. (Also I really like Riven?). And I'm really stoked for The Witness. That's a pretty common trend for old PC gamers because if you weren't around for Myst's tremendous hype you don't understand. It was THE video game. Housewives, businessmen, everyone was aware of Myst. If you were playing Doom on your PC or even Lucas/Sierra stuff then there could be a lot of contempt thinking they were changing your videogames into something you didn't want. It's kind of like the backlash that Gone Home got, thinking this additive product was somehow going to subtract entertainment. Hell, there was potential that this mixed media experience (if it was repeatable) could have changed the landscape of games but it of course was not replicated very well and it remains one of the only lasting examples of FMV PC gaming breaking into the mainstream culture.
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Captain Internet posted:That's a pretty common trend for old PC gamers because if you weren't around for Myst's tremendous hype you don't understand. It was THE video game. Housewives, businessmen, everyone was aware of Myst. "Guerrillas in the Myst." Wired magazine, Aug 1994 quote:"It was addictive," he says, "but I knew it had an end. I was pretty sure, anyway. Most of the time. The only problem was when I began clicking on things in real life. I'd see a manhole cover and think, 'Hmmm, that looks pretty interesting,' and my forefinger would start to twitch. And then I'd realize, 'No, it's real life. Real life is the thing that happens in between Myst.'"
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I'm actually playing MGS5 right now and I LOVE it. It's the most mechanically sound the series has ever been and the Kojima nonsense is relegated to rare cutscenes. Also, some of the Kojima nonsense (D-Dog is great) is wonderful. I'm planning to pick up Peace Walker just so I can have a similar experience on the go.
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Woffle posted:I'm planning to pick up Peace Walker just so I can have a similar experience on the go. I'm not sure this is the order you want to go in, because Peace Walker's grindiness and cubicle-sized arenas were what made me wait on MGSV, which sounds like (at launch, anyway) it cut my issues and made for a better game. But holy God, playing PW was a nightmare. Doubly so solo. Boy, bosses tuned for 4x the people were REAL fun solo!
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You should really play Revengeance, too. It knows it's silly and knows what to do with its silliness much better than the mainline Metal Gear series, also there's a super good Platinum game and soundtrack underneath it and it's one of my favorite games of all time. Just remember to let the stick go to neutral before attempting to parry and buy the aerial parry and dodge move ("defensive offense") ASAP. Platinum games have a history of not quite explaining themselves.
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HMS Boromir posted:You should really play Revengeance, too. It knows it's silly and knows what to do with its silliness much better than the mainline Metal Gear series, also there's a super good Platinum game and soundtrack underneath it and it's one of my favorite games of all time. Yeah, Revengeance is on my list too. I've heard that Peacewalker is worse than MGS5, for sure, but it shows up on sale from time to time so I think it's worth a shot.
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peace walker really isnt that hard if you remember that 99% of the bosses can't hit you when you move, and the one that can telegraphs it bigtime. you have to spend time doing side ops so that your good rocket launchers and poo poo can develop before a boss, but the game is good about going TO BE CONTINUED right before a bossfight, unlike MGSV which just tells you after you pick your loadout that you're going to face the skulls or some poo poo. the guards in peace walker are also kinda blind and easy to cheese, but overall i feel like it's a more complete game than MGSV, though V plays infinitely better. For a portable metal gear it's by far the best, though, and i basically 100%ed it twice. It's really a shame that Portable Ops plays like complete garbage and all of the management systems are 110% hosed because it does some cool stuff with the multiple playable characters and disguises and poo poo.
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VGHD has been all about the deep cuts lately. First the "B.B." thing, and now "kiss : chitty :: bang : bang". You just need to bring back "I only like like mountains" and you'll have the full set.
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Woffle posted:Yeah, Revengeance is on my list too. I've heard that Peacewalker is worse than MGS5, for sure, but it shows up on sale from time to time so I think it's worth a shot. The thing you'll realize eventually about TPP is that the good stuff is front loaded. Eventually you'll reach a point where it seems like you're doing the same 3 mission objectives over and over. When you feel satisfied just stop, it'll probably be 90 hours in anyways. Konami kept piling their online features up, increasing the necessity of a FOB, adjusting timers and resources, and just making the game more of a chore than ever before. I'll argue against Peace Walker being "worse" because the game really is bite sized MGS missions and your base is the source of your resources, not this living entity you have to invest hours of time to create. Peace Walker doesn't turn into bullshit until post-game where it unlocks all the hard missions. It's perfectly fine solo from start to finish but yes, post-game content is so impossibly hard that you'll need friends or Buddha-like patience to finish. You have the popularity of Monster Hunter to thank for that. With the full weight of everything I think Peace Walker is a better game although TPP is a better playing game. It just blows its load early.
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The phantom pain really makes it hard for you to replay it. If I wanted to go for a high score in a mission in Peace walker, I'd select the mission, pick my loadout, and go. For TPP, you need to make sure that you can afford the loadout, pick it, deploy in free roam, wait for the helicopter to land, go and setup the mission area (blow up watchtowers, open gates, etc), then go to the start of the mission area, wait for the appropriate time of day, and then start the mission. If I complete the mission and want to go again, I need to reacquire the resources for the loadout and if I extracted via cargo container (or otherwise modified the world state in a way that was undesirable), I need to play 5 missions in order to respawn it (c2w is the one you do over and over), and then redeploy as above. Oh, and if I need a top tier weapon that I haven't researched yet, I should grind out a ton of resources and also wait over a week real time. I'm also a little resentful of the fact that the mission time leaderboards that were present in GZ are absent. I'm not sure what happened that they couldn't be carried over into TPP.
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al-azad posted:I'll argue against Peace Walker being "worse" because the game really is bite sized MGS missions and your base is the source of your resources, not this living entity you have to invest hours of time to create. Peace Walker doesn't turn into bullshit until post-game where it unlocks all the hard missions... You posted a bunch of what I was thinking. Peace Walker is a great game, and I don't think having played MGSV will make it seem any worse. The really annoyingly hard stuff is optional, and the small levels are nice! I like a tightly designed gameplay area. Researching stuff in Peace Walker is satisfying; it just leads to fun new stuff every once in a while. Phantom Pain's management thing feels like an actual job and I hate it.
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