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Doesn't the abomination shift back when he's afflicted?
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Jan 25, 2016 07:38
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I avoided trying out the Grave Robber for a while because I didn't see the hotness on a quick look over and jesus there is already enough to learn. But holy gently caress this one I made is deadly with the right equipment. Siren boss got hosed sideways by good ole Jazzy. Stunned the party member that got charmed, then dodged two takeover attempts directed at her. I can only imagine what the possibilities are after working it camp bonuses. This is just at level 3! I have big hopes for you, Jazzy!
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Jan 25, 2016 07:39
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Normal Adult Human posted:Doesn't the abomination shift back when he's afflicted? a negative affliction, yah abomination is a pretty fun but barring him from running with some guys is an annoyance. i mean yeah it kind of makes sense from a fluff standpoint but on the other hand i dont think there's a real gameplay purpose to it, like stopping some broken combo id honestly think itd be better if the holy crew just had a constant affliction type deal with them. refusing to heal, constant nagging, etc. that'd actually be an interesting sort of thing to deal with on its own; a character that just inspires animosity from others.
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Jan 25, 2016 07:50
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Chomp8645 posted:I can only imagine what the possibilities are after working it camp bonuses. This is just at level 3! I have big hopes for you, Jazzy! In spite of all that dodge, she will still be hit in the face with a tree for her entire health bar. Enjoy.
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Jan 25, 2016 07:51
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Every time that fucker swings a tree, my heart skips a beat but it gets dodged. I haven't been hit by it since early access.
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Jan 25, 2016 07:54
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FreeKillB posted:Every time that fucker swings a tree, my heart skips a beat but it gets dodged. I haven't been hit by it since early access. Ugh, you lucky son of a gun. He regularly smacks my units around for 20+ damage, then shuffles them without fail. 
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Jan 25, 2016 08:04
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Tiler Kiwi posted:a negative affliction, yah I had him get afflicted once and still be able to transform. Maybe it still works if he's abusive?
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Jan 25, 2016 08:37
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He meant if you're transformed and hit 100 stress, he turns back to human. A lot of us aren't saying "you need to suffer like we did", we're saying "you're complaining about a mechanic that is actually good once you learn the game". People are more than willing to talk about party comps, general strategy, specific bosses, and more in order to help facilitate people explicitly *not* suffering like we did while learning it. Some people also enjoy that process, but I realize that a lot don't.
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Jan 25, 2016 08:44
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packetmantis posted:I had him get afflicted once and still be able to transform. Maybe it still works if he's abusive? perhaps; i dont remember which one I received, but it blocked the use of the ability. might be linked to having 100+ stress, since being virtuous knocks down your stress meter a fair deal. virtues are weird; it feels like theres some kind of unknowable factors going into it since sometimes you just get a whole crew of guys blazing like little torches in the night. my fatal camp experience had the last two survivors go all heroic, which was pretty  of them. suppose that's just how the rng goes sometimes, though, since I imagine it's just a flat % chance.
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Jan 25, 2016 08:45
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Tiler Kiwi posted:the curio thing is pretty silly; i dont really know why the devs think hiding information from the player is interesting to deal with nigga why do you play this game
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Jan 25, 2016 08:49
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The one complaint I have about curio interactions is not being able to right click on an item to auto-use it. Click and dragging is such a chore.
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Jan 25, 2016 09:04
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No! Reynauld was eaten in the Hag's pot. But I got a restraining lock from the battle.
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Jan 25, 2016 09:09
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Gabriel Pope posted:I could've sworn I successfully retreated from a shambler one time after that change was put in. You definitely can't retreat for a round or two, because all surprise attacks do that now, but I think it eventually unlocks the retreat option? Really? What's the point of the dumb "void zone" then? I thought I tried to retreat half way through the fight and the icon was grayed out but now I don't remember. Lame, I could have avoided that wipe then. TMYK
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Jan 25, 2016 09:10
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terrors may indeed stalk these shadows - but yonder, a glint of gold
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Jan 25, 2016 09:12
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Firstborn posted:nigga why do you play this game i play blood bowl too its uh, its not a healthy reason, whatever it is
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Jan 25, 2016 09:14
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I really want to get into Bloodbowl but I like the Warhammer part and not the football part.
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Jan 25, 2016 09:20
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i lost a match because once because dwarf dodged then completed a long pass few horrors in this world can compare
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Jan 25, 2016 09:23
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FreeKillB posted:Every time that fucker swings a tree, my heart skips a beat but it gets dodged. I haven't been hit by it since early access. I loving hate that tree swinging mongoloid. There's no reason it should hit a champion level hero for their entire healthbar
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Jan 25, 2016 09:34
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i lost a match because once because dwarf dodged then completed a long pass  Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
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Jan 25, 2016 09:42
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Those spear dudes in the cove are the loving worst. I lost one of my level 5 Hellions because she got crit for about 30 damage twice in a row. They also have 8 speed and nearly 30 dodge.
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Jan 25, 2016 10:20
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The Hag is literally the worst boss. There are stronger ones, but no other one made me scream "THIS IS BULLSHIT!" when playing. The only other occasion when this happened was when I finished mapping a corridor in the Weald and was backtracking with a severely wounded team to the place where I was about to camp. Of course, the rear end in a top hat bandits spawned. To add insult to injury, my best character withstood 6 Death Doors, then the Occultist healed him for 0 HP and made him Bleed, which ended the poor bastard when he was about to move.
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Jan 25, 2016 10:59
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Welp, time to level another Vestal up to level 6 as well. What exactly is the crit chance for enemies? Edit: Also, what's the best way of leveling up 2 level 0 characters when the rest of the roster mostly consists of level 5+? Just drag them along on level 5 missions?
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Jan 25, 2016 11:09
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Operant posted:I loving hate that tree swinging mongoloid. There's no reason it should hit a champion level hero for their entire healthbar well you go get hit by a fuckin tree and report back on how you feel
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Jan 25, 2016 11:11
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Broken Cog posted:Welp, time to level another Vestal up to level 6 as well. What exactly is the crit chance for enemies?  Hell no. Get two other level 0s from the coach and if you have the Ancestor Item that gives +50% XP, alternate it between them. They'll level up slightly faster that way.I've taken Level 3s and 4s to Level 5 dungeons on occasion, but bringing 0s along is suicide.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:25
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Their roster is probably maxed out.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:38
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Yeah, the roster is full, so I can't hire more until I open up some more positions. I guess I'll just do level 5 dungeons until I lose someone else, but I was kind of wanting for healers already.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:42
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Broken Cog posted:Yeah, the roster is full, so I can't hire more until I open up some more positions. I guess I'll just do level 5 dungeons until I lose someone else, but I was kind of wanting for healers already. Well... maybe now is the time to go into the Darkest Dungeon, since even if you lose people there will be a silver lining.
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Jan 25, 2016 11:44
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Beat my first shambler. and all it cost me was madness and the life of my arbalest
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Jan 25, 2016 12:06
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Fun fact I learned the hard way yesterday: The Hag's "grab a hero for the pot" free action is guaranteed to go first no matter what the relative Speeds are. Well, guess what happens if, after a hero gets spat out of the pot on Death's Door, and then she crits your entire party with the meat mallet as the last action in the round, so that all the survivors are on Death's Door as the round refreshes? Yep. She still gets a guaranteed first turn, not to grab a hero (as she can't grab them on death's door), but with her mallet. Which felt like critting again. Wipe ensues. Motherfucking Hag. gently caress. loving gently caress.
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Jan 25, 2016 12:38
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the slow, inevitable decline
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Jan 25, 2016 12:53
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There should've been an achievement for making a skeleton bleed.
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Jan 25, 2016 13:19
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:the slow, inevitable decline What does that do game - wise?
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Jan 25, 2016 14:03
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Gantolandon posted:What does that do game - wise? Lurker gives you +2 Speed in 25 or lower Light situations, so it's good. Nymphomania is +20% stress heal when visiting the Brothel which is pretty pointless once you're at Champion level since you likely have a relaxation activity maxed out that takes away 100 stress no questions asked.
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Jan 25, 2016 14:14
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busb posted:How much of a benefit is the ++loot from low light? I find loot++ worthwhile, in fact i did 0 light runs for everyone from R0-R2 unless i was confronting a boss - everyone at those ranks is disposable and it saves you some torch money. If you have a trinket that reduces surprise chance it helps quite a bit, since the surprise attacks are probably what makes a run nosedive quickly - either that or make sure you have a very mobile group. The stress hit from low light can be annoying, but remember you get +crit in the dark and make sure to bring some heavy critters (such as arbalest, or highwayman with pistol shot, grave robber etc). Short runs are very doable in the dark, mediums don't often need it with how much stuff you naturally find in that length. I haven't done a long one with low light yet, but i imagine it just isn't worthwhile - i guess you can prioritize loot so you have nothing but rubies and sapphires or w/e instead of lovely stacks of jade/citrine. Also the flesh beast is incredibly easy with a plague doc, like for real a 4-spot monster that shares one health bar is incredibly susceptible to being blighted to death with plague bombs. I think that guy was tailor made to make you bring a plague doctor. (Not that i have a problem with that since out of my 25-man roster i have 4 plague docs because they are awesome.) I actually didn't play the EA game for a while and the only bosses i'd ever fought to that point were the standard necromancer, hag, and pig king dude.
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Jan 25, 2016 14:14
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The houndmaster applying bleed to every part is also pretty good against the flesh boss.
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Jan 25, 2016 14:36
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as long as the enemy you're facing isn't resistant to Blight then the Plague Doctor is the best character in the game. Stacking 10 damage per turn blights plus a shuffling stun that can clear corpses is great. Such a turnaround from when the game was in its early stages and I never felt the PD was worth it. I think they've buffed her big time + lowered resistances of all enemies since then.
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Jan 25, 2016 15:13
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Megasabin posted:You don't like the game because you are self imposing a needless loss condition on yourself, and starting over from scratch every time. 
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Jan 25, 2016 15:18
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I love the Plague Doctor, especially paired with Occultist. Between them they can destroy a back pair before they even get chance to act.
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Jan 25, 2016 15:19
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what's a worse random mob encounter -- four spearfishing dudes, or four rabid dogs? Because the spearfishing dudes hit hard and fast but the dogs at higher levels are all DODGE DODGE DODGE DODGE
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Pattonesque posted:what's a worse random mob encounter -- four spearfishing dudes, or four rabid dogs? spear dudes hit way harder and seem to do more damage overall MinibarMatchman posted:as long as the enemy you're facing isn't resistant to Blight then the Plague Doctor is the best character in the game. Stacking 10 damage per turn blights plus a shuffling stun that can clear corpses is great. Such a turnaround from when the game was in its early stages and I never felt the PD was worth it. I think they've buffed her big time + lowered resistances of all enemies since then. I've actually always been keen on the PD, i found him super useful in general just by way of that back row stun even in the early days of EA. My groups always do way better with her along and even more so after getting that very rare stun/blight trinket - with that she can get around the blight resistance of the stuff that starts at 65-70% resistance, which makes her even more useful in the weald since she can reliably blight the shrooms (that is if i don't stun them)
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